Star Shooting Efficiency

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Star Shooting Efficiency 

Post#1 » by ahonui06 » Fri Nov 12, 2010 8:58 pm

I took a bunch of stars and wanted to see their efficiency on offense. This is a list of PPS (points per shot). This was calculated taking points divided by FGA. I also subtracted all points awarded by FTs before using the equation. These numbers are all from the 2009-2010 season.

Kobe Bryant: Points (1970) - FTM (439) = 1531 / FGA (1569) = 0.976 PPS

LeBron James: Points (2258) - FTM (593) = 1665 / FGA (1528) = 1.09 PPS


Dwyane Wade: Points (2045) - FTM (534) = 1511 / FGA (1511) = 1 PPS

Carmelo Anthony: Points (1943) - FTM (508) = 1435 / FGA (1502) = 0.955 PPS

Kevin Durant: Points (2472) - FTM (756) = 1716 / FGA (1668) = 1.029 PPS

DIRK NOWITZKI: Points (2027) - FTM (536) = 1491 / FGA (1496) = 0.997 PPS

Amar'e Stoudemire: Points (1896) - FTM (487) = 1409 / FGA (1264) = 1.115PPS

Pau Gasol: Points (1190) - FTM (286) = 904 / FGA (844) = 1.071 PPS

Tim Duncan: Points (1395) - FTM (271) = 1124 / FGA (1082) = 1.039PPS

Dwight Howard: Points (1503) - FTM (483) = 1020 / FGA (834) = 1.223 PPS

Now, in order of efficiency

1) Dwight Howard
2) Amar'e Stoudemire
3) LeBron James
4) Pau Gasol
5) Tim Duncan
6) Kevin Durant
7) Dwyane Wade
8) DIRK NOWITZKI
9) Kobe Bryant
10) Carmelo Anthony
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Re: Star Shooting Efficiency 

Post#2 » by Malinhion » Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:03 pm

ahonui06 wrote:I also subtracted all points awarded by FTs before using the equation.


Why?
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Re: Star Shooting Efficiency 

Post#3 » by ahonui06 » Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:05 pm

Malinhion wrote:
ahonui06 wrote:I also subtracted all points awarded by FTs before using the equation.


Why?


Portrays a more accurate description of PPS. Majority of the time when a player goes to the FT line he doesn't get a FGA unless it is an and 1.

But, I will also recalculate the scores with the FTMs just to see the changes.
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Post#4 » by ahonui06 » Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:09 pm

I took a bunch of stars and wanted to see their efficiency on offense. This is a list of PPS (points per shot). This list does not subtract FTMs just to see how it would change the respective players' efficiency. These numbers are all from the 2009-2010 season.

Kobe Bryant: Points (1970) / FGA (1569) = 1.256 PPS

LeBron James: Points (2258) / FGA (1528) = 1.478 PPS


Dwyane Wade: Points (2045) / FGA (1511) = 1.353 PPS

Carmelo Anthony: Points (1943) / FGA (1502) = 1.294 PPS

Kevin Durant: Points (2472) / FGA (1668) = 1.482 PPS

DIRK NOWITZKI: Points (2027) / FGA (1496) = 1.355 PPS

Amar'e Stoudemire: Points (1896) / FGA (1264) = 1.5PPS

Pau Gasol: Points (1190) / FGA (844) = 1.41 PPS

Tim Duncan: Points (1395) / FGA (1082) = 1.289PPS

Dwight Howard: Points (1503) / FGA (834) = 1.802 PPS

Now, in order of efficiency

1) Dwight Howard
2) Amar'e Stoudemire
3) Kevin Durant
4) LeBron James
5) Pau Gasol
6) DIRK NOWITZKI
7) Dwyane Wade
8) Carmelo Anthony
9) Tim Duncan
10) Kobe Bryant
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Re: Star Shooting Efficiency 

Post#5 » by aggo » Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:13 pm

ahonui06 wrote:
Malinhion wrote:
ahonui06 wrote:I also subtracted all points awarded by FTs before using the equation.


Why?


Portrays a more accurate description of PPS. Majority of the time when a player goes to the FT line he doesn't get a FGA unless it is an and 1.

But, I will also recalculate the scores with the FTMs just to see the changes.


In theory you're right, but in principle I don't think I agree. Then PPS shouldn't be used as a metric to rate offensive efficiency. How would guys like Maggette look with PPS? Absolutely turrible because he gets to the line a TON.
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Re: Star Shooting Efficiency 

Post#6 » by Rapcity_11 » Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:14 pm

Getting to the line and converting is a big part of efficiency. You can't just remove it, it makes no sense!
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Re: Star Shooting Efficiency 

Post#7 » by jwilde86 » Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:24 pm

Kobe's getting old.

A shame too. This is the point in his career where he could rack up 2-3 more rings and as many finals MVPs = 2-3 reg season MVP's if he was 5 years younger. Talent dispersal would allow for it, but his body is breaking down.
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Re: Star Shooting Efficiency 

Post#8 » by blkout » Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:31 pm

Why is Dirk's name in CAPS lol
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Re: Star Shooting Efficiency 

Post#9 » by Magic Bean » Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:38 pm

Not to rain on any parades but isn't this just a crappier alternative to TS%?
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Re: Star Shooting Efficiency 

Post#10 » by Doctor MJ » Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:45 pm

ahonui06 wrote:I took a bunch of stars and wanted to see their efficiency on offense. This is a list of PPS (points per shot). This was calculated taking points divided by FGA. I also subtracted all points awarded by FTs before using the equation. These numbers are all from the 2009-2010 season.


Okay ahonui, you're making work for yourself because you haven't taken the time to understand the stats that are out there.

This calculation you made describes an existing stat called effective field goal percentage (eFG%) which is readily available on basketball-reference.com.

Now, additionally, this is not the shooting efficiency stat people consider most useful, true shooting percentage (TS%) is. TS uses league averages to estimate how many real shots a player took that were not counted in FGA because of called fouls, and thus gives us the closest thing we have to a true "points per shot" stat.

As far as wanting to not include free throws, not saying there's never a use in doing that, but just keep in mind that when someone is trying to score, making free throws are just as valid as making field goals. And if you want to actually measure shooting ability, including free throws doesn't actually make the number less valid since the ability to shoot free throws is one of the core aspects of being a good shooter.
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Re: Star Shooting Efficiency 

Post#11 » by Chronz » Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:13 pm

Just look at their eFG% for efficiency from the field
TS% measures scoring efficiency
Offensive Rtg measures Offensive Efficiency in general
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Re: Star Shooting Efficiency 

Post#12 » by nonemus » Fri Nov 12, 2010 11:53 pm

Magic Bean wrote:Not to rain on any parades but isn't this just a crappier alternative to TS%?


yes.
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Re: Star Shooting Efficiency 

Post#13 » by Devin 1L » Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:00 am

WAY TO HIDE YOUR BIAS.

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