Passing Stat

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Passing Stat 

Post#1 » by Hal14 » Tue May 18, 2021 12:21 am

Question.

When determining who is a better passer / better for their team's ball movement, what do you usually look at?

I'm assuming some combination of usage % and assist %.

Just using straight assist % wouldn't work - because what if 2 players have the same assist % but one of them has way higher usage %...then obviously the the guy with lower usage % is better in terms of passing / helping his team's ball movement.

Would you just take assist % ÷ usage % which gives you each player's assist to usage ratio and then just rank them that way?
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Re: Passing Stat 

Post#2 » by blabla » Tue May 18, 2021 3:23 am

Can look at AST/TO, too
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Re: Passing Stat 

Post#3 » by jambalaya » Wed Jun 30, 2021 8:53 pm

Could look at passing rating at 82games.com and team assists and efficiency on / off.

Some passing ratings at bbindex.com

NBA.com players tracking passing
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Re: Passing Stat 

Post#4 » by ceoofkobefans » Mon Oct 18, 2021 12:03 am

When I’m evaluating a players passing through a statistical lense I look at

AST/100 / IA AST/100
TOV/100
AST%
cTOV%
O Load
Box OC
Passer rating

And in the pbp era looking at things like where the assists are (are they rim assists 3pt assists mid range asts etc) and in the optimal tracking era Hockey assists potential assists etc are also very nice to look at.
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Re: Passing Stat 

Post#5 » by tsherkin » Sat Apr 30, 2022 7:20 pm

Thread bump, but it seems a little quiet in here.

BackPicks has the Box Creation and Passer Rating metrics. I think both of those are behind his Patreon pay wall, but they make for interesting reads. Related to Passer Rating, Ben did a Nylon Calculus article related to that Passer Rating stuff which isn't behind a pay wall, and it serves as a study of improvement in passing.

There is also the stuff at NBA.com's Player Tracking.

There, you can see stuff like passes made/received, assists, secondary assists, potential assists, assist points created and so on. It allows you to get a better idea of WHAT someone is doing when they pass, how many points their passing is creating and how much their team might be leaving on the table with assists versus potential assists and all that.
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Re: Passing Stat 

Post#6 » by jambalaya » Fri May 20, 2022 9:36 pm

Assists by shot location are publicly available.

Sometimes you see by teammate passer / receiver.

Teams could probably see assists and turnovers by court location of passer & receiver and could evaluate relative passing efficiencies. The most serious researchers could get to pass length and efficiencies.

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