Quintuple-double by combining career highs?

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Re: Quintuple-double by combining career highs? 

Post#21 » by old rem » Sun May 9, 2010 9:00 am

TrueLAfan wrote:
Egg Nog wrote:
Manuel Calavera wrote:Jerry West probably had 10 blocks in a game at some point in his career.


That sounds extremely unlikely.


Jerry West was probably the best shot blocking guard of all time. Part of that was because he played in a time period when the three wasn’t as prevalent, and fewer blocks occur on three pointers as opposed to interior shots. And more shots were taken while West played; that helped him.

But, mainly, West has the advantage that Dwyane Wade has—absurd wingspan for his size. And it’s my opinion that West got up in the air a bit faster than Wade—partly because he was lighter, partly because he simply was able to. West’s leaping ability was pretty legendary; so was his first step. He got up in the air and he got there fast.

We have block and steal statistics for one year of Jerry West’s career--1974. He was 35 and had already played a ton of minutes (almost 36000 regular season) at the beginning of the year. He was injured and didn’t play much that year. He had 23 blocks in 967 minutes…about a block every 42 minutes. Here is a list of players over the age of 30 (not 35) that played 50 games in a season and averaged a block every 41 minutes.

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I have to think that when West was younger, he had a bunch of 100 block seasons…he might have gotten over 150 as a result of the number of shots taken in the 60s. If we assume that his shots blocked per minute dropped by 50-55% from when he was 23-27 compared to when he was 35 (and that’s conservative; Jordan’s blocked shots dropped around 70%; Dennis Johnson’s dropped more than that), we could put together a career chart with natural regression and make a passing guess at what his blocks per game/seasons might have been like.

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Season      G     MP  MPB MPG   BLK BPG
1961       79   2797  25  35.41  112 1.42
1962       75   3087  23  41.16  134 1.79
1963       55   2163 21.5 39.33  101 1.83
1964       72   2906  20  40.36  145 2.02
1965       74   3066  21  41.43  146 1.97
1966       79   3218  25  40.73  129 1.63
1967       66   2670  28  40.45   95 1.44
1968       51   1919  33  37.63   58 1.14
1969       61   2394  32  39.25   75 1.23
1970       74   3106  37  41.97   84 1.13
1971       69   2845  39  41.23   73 1.06
1972       77   2973  40  38.61   74 0.97
1973       69   2460  41  35.65   60 0.87
1974       31    967  42  31.19   23 0.74

Career    932  36571            1309 1.40


That regression is pretty typical, and it shows that West would have been around 2 blocks a game at his peak. If a player averages 1.8 a game for around 280 games…what are the chances he’ll have a 10 block game? That’s about what we’re talking about for West,



I saw a lot of Jerry West,don't recall him being a big time shotblocker. He was,basically,the same size as Monta Ellis without quite the hops. A 6-3 G can get 5-6 blocks once in a while but getting more is VERY rare stuff.
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Re: Quintuple-double by combining career highs? 

Post#22 » by jym85 » Tue May 25, 2010 6:45 am

Dirk is a little closer than you would think

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Re: Quintuple-double by combining career highs? 

Post#23 » by shaq_diesel_33 » Thu Jun 3, 2010 11:49 am

It is all about a big man doing steals, or a guard doing blocks. Both are very unlikely and difficult to achieve.

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