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TS% question

Posted: Wed Dec 1, 2010 5:31 pm
by Reservoirdawgs
What is considered average, good, and elite for TS%? Would average be considered around .500?

Re: TS% question

Posted: Wed Dec 1, 2010 5:34 pm
by Malinhion
1. Depends on the position.

2. No.

Re: TS% question

Posted: Wed Dec 1, 2010 5:45 pm
by Ming Kong!
I could never figure out why people are so obsessed with advanced stats. To me it's nice that it's available but I find it so much easier to just use raw stats. In the end of the day you'll never be able to factor in intangibles, true defensive impact, and how much the stats are stat padding versus impacting the outing of the game. Take guys like Sefelosha and Bruce Bowens, all the stats in the world wont be able to measure these guys, while a Zach Randolph looks like a stud if you don't have knowledge of the game, or actually follow the NBA tightly.

Re: TS% question

Posted: Wed Dec 1, 2010 5:50 pm
by Sinant
Hoopdata says the league average TS% is 54.4, however, to determine what's good or not really depends on the position of the player.

Re: TS% question

Posted: Wed Dec 1, 2010 5:52 pm
by CellarDoor
TS% is great when you use it as it should be used: as a tool.

Imagine going to BBR and looking a given stat and sorting while not looking at anything else. You'd think some random PF that made the only 3 they attempted all year was the greatest 3pt shooter. You'd think a bench warmer who hit two FTs then got cut was the best FT shooter in the league. You'd think Randolph was a better offensive player than Tim Duncan, etc. The beauty of the statistics is that you can use them in concert with other statistics and hopefully your own eyes to form conclusions.

I'll take a shot at average/good/elite TS though. For perimeter players, good TS is around 56-57% and elite is north of 58%. Average is 53-54% imo. Interior players you're looking north of 60% for elite imo.

Re: TS% question

Posted: Wed Dec 1, 2010 6:23 pm
by DSMok1
Ming Kong! wrote:I could never figure out why people are so obsessed with advanced stats. To me it's nice that it's available but I find it so much easier to just use raw stats. In the end of the day you'll never be able to factor in intangibles, true defensive impact, and how much the stats are stat padding versus impacting the outing of the game. Take guys like Sefelosha and Bruce Bowens, all the stats in the world wont be able to measure these guys, while a Zach Randolph looks like a stud if you don't have knowledge of the game, or actually follow the NBA tightly.


By Advanced SPM, Thabo is 3rd on OKC this year and not far short of KD. ASPM is just a weighted combination of stats like TS%. :)

Re: TS% question

Posted: Wed Dec 1, 2010 6:26 pm
by DSMok1
CellarDoor wrote:
I'll take a shot at average/good/elite TS though. For perimeter players, good TS is around 56-57% and elite is north of 58%. Average is 53-54% imo. Interior players you're looking north of 60% for elite imo.


I don't think you should go by position in evaluating "good" TS%, but rather by the player's usage% (adjusted for TO%). A post w/ 20% USG and 55% TS% is about the same as a PG with the same numbers.