Colbinii wrote:wigglestrue wrote:colts18 wrote:PER and Win Share (Win share/48 minutes) are league adjusted.
Didn't realize Win Shares were...how so?
I knew about PER...I just despise PER, lol.
Still curious, though: How is PER league-adjusted?
How fine is the adjustment?
PER is league-adjusted because 15 is average.
Unblocked you here, because it's the Stats forum.
Look, I know PER is league-adjusted. PER is also a pile of manure as a measure of overall basketball excellence, compared to what OPS+ is for batting excellence or WAR is for overall baseball excellence. PER is ****ing AWFUL in that context. How well does PER correlate to winning? How well do other hoops metrics correlate to winning? Which ones correlate as well as OPS+ or even raw OPS does to winning baseball games? I'm assuming all you beautiful basketball nerds are obsessed with that coefficient stuff, right? And so, out of those, the ones which aren't half-assed crap like PER, which are league-adjusted? Ooh, and pace-adjusted. Both. All-around measures, measures for only offense, or only defense, or even only passing, rebounding, shooting. We don't know what the league-adjusted FG% would be for the 50's and 60's. People look at Russell's raw FG% and don't realize what the equivalent would be if he finished 2nd, 3rd, 4th, or 5th in the league in the 90's or 00's. Baseballreference had a one-click way to adjust a pitching-dominated season in the 60's into its equivalent during a juiced-season, or better yet an all-time-average season. That's also what I mean by league-adjusted.