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I was thinking of some sort of offensive statistic that more clearly measures efficiency than just TS%. Surely someone with a TS% of .650, a usage rate of 15% and a turnover rate of 15% isn't as efficient as they look just judging off of TS%, which is what most people would do. On the flip side, even though Aldridge has a lower TS%, I wouldn't call him inefficient because his usage rate is so high and turnover rate is so low.

Is there any existing statistic that combines the existing percentage based stats like USG%, TS%, TOV% and maybe even AST%? Does it even make sense to combine these stats together?

The state "Offensive Rating" that you see attached to individuals on b-r, is an efficiency stat along these lines.

The equation for it:

Offensive Rating = (Points Produced / Individual Possessions) x 100

And that factors in various scoring attempts, plus assists, rebounds, and turnovers.

You'll note that doesn't factor in Usage. The philosophy is to separate Efficiency & Usage and recognize that it's the combination of these things together that's important.

Doctor MJ wrote:The state "Offensive Rating" that you see attached to individuals on b-r, is an efficiency stat along these lines.

The equation for it:

Offensive Rating = (Points Produced / Individual Possessions) x 100

And that factors in various scoring attempts, plus assists, rebounds, and turnovers.

You'll note that doesn't factor in Usage. The philosophy is to separate Efficiency & Usage and recognize that it's the combination of these things together that's important.

I thought that ORTG for individuals measures team pts/100 when said player is on the floor, for example even if Tyson Chandler never even touches the ball but sets incredible screens getting everyone else open his ORTG would be high. So individual ORTG really measures pts/100 if all 100 possessions were used by the individual player in question (rather than the normal team distribution of 100 possessions)? I had no idea this was the case and have been reading about advanced stats for quite some time!

srbram wrote:

Doctor MJ wrote:The state "Offensive Rating" that you see attached to individuals on b-r, is an efficiency stat along these lines.

The equation for it:

Offensive Rating = (Points Produced / Individual Possessions) x 100

And that factors in various scoring attempts, plus assists, rebounds, and turnovers.

You'll note that doesn't factor in Usage. The philosophy is to separate Efficiency & Usage and recognize that it's the combination of these things together that's important.

I thought that ORTG for individuals measures team pts/100 when said player is on the floor, for example even if Tyson Chandler never even touches the ball but sets incredible screens getting everyone else open his ORTG would be high. So individual ORTG really measures pts/100 if all 100 possessions were used by the individual player in question (rather than the normal team distribution of 100 possessions)? I had no idea this was the case and have been reading about advanced stats for quite some time!

Understandable confusion.

There are two different "Offensive Ratings", one for the individual and one for team.

The team one simply states an estimate of how many points a team scores per 100 possessions.

The individual one is as I described above.

Doctor MJ wrote:

srbram wrote:

Doctor MJ wrote:The state "Offensive Rating" that you see attached to individuals on b-r, is an efficiency stat along these lines.

The equation for it:

Offensive Rating = (Points Produced / Individual Possessions) x 100

And that factors in various scoring attempts, plus assists, rebounds, and turnovers.

You'll note that doesn't factor in Usage. The philosophy is to separate Efficiency & Usage and recognize that it's the combination of these things together that's important.

I thought that ORTG for individuals measures team pts/100 when said player is on the floor, for example even if Tyson Chandler never even touches the ball but sets incredible screens getting everyone else open his ORTG would be high. So individual ORTG really measures pts/100 if all 100 possessions were used by the individual player in question (rather than the normal team distribution of 100 possessions)? I had no idea this was the case and have been reading about advanced stats for quite some time!

Understandable confusion.

There are two different "Offensive Ratings", one for the individual and one for team.

The team one simply states an estimate of how many points a team scores per 100 possessions.

The individual one is as I described above.

for what its worth, NBA.com uses pts/100 when said player is on the floor, rather than the bballref version which is as you described.

Evan has looked at this before: http://www.d3coder.com/thecity/2013/04/ ... ing-index/

Yeah many higher order stats do this. PER, OTR, RPM, etc..

However it isn't always easy drawing conclusions about individual performance from these. For example, if a player is on a team that is stacked with good shooters, you would expect their assist numbers to go up even if they aren't passing any more than normal.