How often does ESPN update RPM?

Post #1 » by **Sixerscan** » Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:03 pm

I know it says that it updates every 3 hours during the west coast business day, but I've noticed that guys' RPM will stay the same for like a week and then have a big jump all of a sudden. Sometimes on days they didn't play the night before. The games played will update every day though which is weird.

Maybe I am missing something that would cause that to happen. Sure seems like it is only updated every 1-2 weeks though.

Post #2 » by **bondom34** » Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:30 pm

Sixerscan wrote:I know it says that it updates every 3 hours during the west coast business day, but I've noticed that guys' RPM will stay the same for like a week and then have a big jump all of a sudden. Sometimes on days they didn't play the night before. The games played will update every day though which is weird.

Maybe I am missing something that would cause that to happen. Sure seems like it is only updated every 1-2 weeks though.

Yeah I usually check, seems to be weekly approximately, sometimes a little more.

blabla · Post #3 » by **blabla** » Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:08 pm

It's usually on Mondays, except for this week, during which it should happen Thursday the 24th

Andy_BBall · Post #4 » by **Andy_BBall** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 2:27 am

It seems kinda random to me...sometimes it updates in 1-2 days, sometimes a week

Post #5 » by **GeorgeMarcus** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:52 pm

Yeah I noticed the big jumps as well, most recently RoCo skyrocketing into Top 5 DRPM in the league (3rd among starters

).

Another question though- why are the RPM's on ESPN so different from RPM's on basketball reference? I checked Westbrook's today on basketball reference and it was like 15 (almost double what's listed on ESPN and way more than any player). Must be missing something?

blabla · Post #6 » by **blabla** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 11:12 am

basketball-reference's metric is "BPM", while ESPN's metric is "RPM"
They're similar, but two different things

For the remainder of the season, RPM will be updated on Thursdays

CptCrunch · Post #7 » by **CptCrunch** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:29 pm

blabla wrote:basketball-reference's metric is "BPM", while ESPN's metric is "RPM"
They're similar, but two different things

For the remainder of the season, RPM will be updated on Thursdays

BPM is related to PER.

RPM is related to RAPM.

BPM has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with RPM or RAPM. The difference between BPM and RPM is like the difference between a dog and a cat. Both are animals, but they are NOTHING alike.

Post #8 » by **bondom34** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:48 pm

paulbball wrote:
blabla wrote:basketball-reference's metric is "BPM", while ESPN's metric is "RPM"
They're similar, but two different things

For the remainder of the season, RPM will be updated on Thursdays

BPM is related to PER.

RPM is related to RAPM.

BPM has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with RPM or RAPM. The difference between BPM and RPM is like the difference between a dog and a cat. Both are animals, but they are NOTHING alike.

BPM isn't related to PER.

CptCrunch · Post #9 » by **CptCrunch** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 11:07 pm

bondom34 wrote:
paulbball wrote:
blabla wrote:basketball-reference's metric is "BPM", while ESPN's metric is "RPM"
They're similar, but two different things

For the remainder of the season, RPM will be updated on Thursdays

BPM is related to PER.

RPM is related to RAPM.

BPM has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with RPM or RAPM. The difference between BPM and RPM is like the difference between a dog and a cat. Both are animals, but they are NOTHING alike.

BPM isn't related to PER.

Just a crappy box score based linear regression.

Post #10 » by **bondom34** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 11:45 pm

paulbball wrote:
bondom34 wrote:
paulbball wrote:
BPM is related to PER.

RPM is related to RAPM.

BPM has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with RPM or RAPM. The difference between BPM and RPM is like the difference between a dog and a cat. Both are animals, but they are NOTHING alike.

BPM isn't related to PER.

Just a crappy box score based linear regression.

Which isn't related to PER

Post #11 » by **HartfordWhalers** » Sat Apr 1, 2017 12:40 am

BPM and PER are both descended from Naismith, so in that sense they are related.

CptCrunch · Post #12 » by **CptCrunch** » Sat Apr 1, 2017 12:45 am

bondom34 wrote:
paulbball wrote:
bondom34 wrote:BPM isn't related to PER.

Just a crappy box score based linear regression.

Which isn't related to PER

BPM and PER are game/season level box score regressions.

RPM and RAPM are possession level regularized regressions.

There is a humongous difference here.

Post #13 » by **bondom34** » Sat Apr 1, 2017 1:01 am

paulbball wrote:
bondom34 wrote:
paulbball wrote:
Just a crappy box score based linear regression.

Which isn't related to PER

BPM and PER are game/season level box score regressions.

RPM and RAPM are possession level regularized regressions.

There is a humongous difference here.

Correct.

But BPM and PER are not related.

andyhop · Post #14 » by **andyhop** » Sat Apr 1, 2017 4:28 am

blabla wrote:For the remainder of the season, RPM will be updated on Thursdays

Which is pretty ridiculous given that it would be simple for them to update it daily