James Harden FGM vs FTM

Moderator: Doctor MJ

Porzingod
Sophomore
Posts: 192
And1: 134
Joined: Jan 13, 2016
Location: Latvia, Riga
 

James Harden FGM vs FTM 

Post#1 » by Porzingod » Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:55 pm

Saw this comment on facebook.
These stats felt so unreal that i decided to investigate and they check out. Just goes to show why Harden is getting so much hate for flopping:

Michael Jordan: 5,590 more field goals than free throws
LeBron James: 5,395 more field goals than free throws
Kobe Bryant: 4,035 more field goals than free throws
Kevin Durant: 2,219 more field goals than free throws
.....
James Harden: 193 more free throws than field goals
User avatar
Benedict_Boozer
RealGM
Posts: 15,325
And1: 3,280
Joined: Aug 08, 2004

Re: James Harden FGM vs FTM 

Post#2 » by Benedict_Boozer » Sat Dec 15, 2018 3:02 pm

Disgusting


Sent from my iPad using RealGM Forums
og15
Forum Mod - Clippers
Forum Mod - Clippers
Posts: 33,641
And1: 13,146
Joined: Jun 23, 2004
Location: NBA Fan
 

Re: James Harden FGM vs FTM 

Post#3 » by og15 » Sat Dec 15, 2018 3:07 pm

You already missed the party on this one:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1779008#p71048285
User avatar
3toheadmelo
RealGM
Posts: 30,874
And1: 24,893
Joined: Feb 15, 2015
 

Re: James Harden FGM vs FTM 

Post#4 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Dec 15, 2018 3:08 pm

Image
Cavs Nation
Dennis Smith Jr/Dunn/Cook
Zach Lavine/Frank Jackson/Brown Jr
Jayson Tatum/DFS/O'Neale
Julius Randle/Bam Adebayo/Bolden
Deandre Ayton/JV

It's like when n*ggas make subliminal records
If it ain't directed directly at me, I don't respect it
Soulyss
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,668
And1: 1,799
Joined: Feb 21, 2008
   

Re: James Harden FGM vs FTM 

Post#5 » by Soulyss » Sat Dec 15, 2018 3:08 pm

At some point a player is going to get fed-up with Harden's flopping like a fish and re-arrange his teeth... that will likely fix the problem in a inappropriate but effective manner.
User avatar
Trippinskarlo
Rookie
Posts: 1,017
And1: 1,200
Joined: Jul 04, 2014
   

Re: James Harden FGM vs FTM 

Post#6 » by Trippinskarlo » Sat Dec 15, 2018 3:09 pm

It's no wonder he has struggled in the playoffs....his entire game is getting tick-tack fouls.
User avatar
Baski
Starter
Posts: 2,252
And1: 1,608
Joined: Feb 09, 2017
   

Re: James Harden FGM vs FTM 

Post#7 » by Baski » Sat Dec 15, 2018 3:39 pm

Pretty pathetic for a star tbh. Though it would be great if we could compare him to other guys playing today and not top 20 all time level guys. We know MJ, Kobe, KD and Lebron could/can get buckets. Maybe it would look less egregious alongside stars in Harden's tier.
Funniest Nicknames for NBA players I've ever heard on realgm:
1. Nicholas Kaboom
2. Lasoftus Aldridge
3. Glass
4. LeBaby
5. Zaza Pacheapshot
6. Stone Cold Steve Adams
7. Rapestaps Rapezingis :lol: :lol: :lol:
8. Yawnnis Icantshootthough
User avatar
Sark
RealGM
Posts: 16,603
And1: 11,754
Joined: Sep 21, 2010
Location: Merry Pills
 

Re: James Harden FGM vs FTM 

Post#8 » by Sark » Sat Dec 15, 2018 3:48 pm

He has a career FTr of .538%. This year it's only .475 which is his lowest rate since his rookie year. But .538 is basically the same or more than what centers shoot. Shaq is a career .578%. David Robinson is .577%. Hakeem is .363%. Jordan is .358%. Dwyane Wade is .432%.
#KnicksTank4Lyfe
User avatar
Baski
Starter
Posts: 2,252
And1: 1,608
Joined: Feb 09, 2017
   

Re: James Harden FGM vs FTM 

Post#9 » by Baski » Sat Dec 15, 2018 3:49 pm

Never mind i found them.

Curry-2846 more FGs than FTs
Davis-1472 more FGs than FTs
Westbrook-1700 more FGs than FTs
Leonard-1237 more FGs than FTs
Paul-2085 more FGs than FTs

Harden seems to depend on FTs to get his points to an abnormal extent. I feel he deserved the MVP last season, but I can't see myself rooting for this guy.
Funniest Nicknames for NBA players I've ever heard on realgm:
1. Nicholas Kaboom
2. Lasoftus Aldridge
3. Glass
4. LeBaby
5. Zaza Pacheapshot
6. Stone Cold Steve Adams
7. Rapestaps Rapezingis :lol: :lol: :lol:
8. Yawnnis Icantshootthough
dynamic duo
Analyst
Posts: 3,347
And1: 9,343
Joined: May 01, 2013

Re: James Harden FGM vs FTM 

Post#10 » by dynamic duo » Sat Dec 15, 2018 3:58 pm

only metta and rondo can save us from the biggest flopping duo in nba history.

Image

Image
NBAAnthem
Sophomore
Posts: 235
And1: 119
Joined: Sep 20, 2018

Re: James Harden FGM vs FTM 

Post#11 » by NBAAnthem » Sat Dec 15, 2018 3:58 pm

Peak Harden is better than Curry. Harden will finish with more career points, steals, assists, and rebounds than Curry despite starting his first 3 years coming off the bench in OKC

Harden is a threat to Currys career arc because he is durable and gets 30 a night, so much so that casuals and nba fans want to keep harden off the free-throw line, and make him play currys style of play. What if we said Giannis has to take 7 threes a game like dirk in his prime because he stays in the paint too much...

all the dominant wing players of their draft class finished with better stats and accumlation of stats of the next closest guy. In Hardens case other than mvp awards and a all-nba snub( which are voted on by biased nba media writers). Harden has had the better career
NBAAnthem
Sophomore
Posts: 235
And1: 119
Joined: Sep 20, 2018

Re: James Harden FGM vs FTM 

Post#12 » by NBAAnthem » Sat Dec 15, 2018 3:59 pm

Baski wrote:Never mind i found them.

Curry-2846 more FGs than FTs
Davis-1472 more FGs than FTs
Westbrook-1700 more FGs than FTs
Leonard-1237 more FGs than FTs
Paul-2085 more FGs than FTs

Harden seems to depend on FTs to get his points to an abnormal extent. I feel he deserved the MVP last season, but I can't see myself rooting for this guy.



Harden started his career off on the bench in okc his first 3 years and still racking up the points at a record pace
Pharenheit
Pro Prospect
Posts: 970
And1: 1,784
Joined: Jun 09, 2018

Re: James Harden FGM vs FTM 

Post#13 » by Pharenheit » Sat Dec 15, 2018 4:02 pm

Product of the joke NBA as it is today
MotownMadness
RealGM
Posts: 26,323
And1: 14,167
Joined: Oct 08, 2013
       

Re: James Harden FGM vs FTM 

Post#14 » by MotownMadness » Sat Dec 15, 2018 4:16 pm

That’s ridiculous
Gooner
Veteran
Posts: 2,895
And1: 2,854
Joined: Sep 02, 2018
 

Re: James Harden FGM vs FTM 

Post#15 » by Gooner » Sat Dec 15, 2018 4:20 pm

Pharenheit wrote:Product of the joke NBA as it is today


It's ridiculously soft right now. That's why you can't compare numbers of today's players, to those of players from the past.
User avatar
Uncle Dennis
General Manager
Posts: 8,015
And1: 11,830
Joined: Jan 26, 2018
 

Re: James Harden FGM vs FTM 

Post#16 » by Uncle Dennis » Sat Dec 15, 2018 4:22 pm

NBAAnthem wrote:Peak Harden is better than Curry. Harden will finish with more career points, steals, assists, and rebounds than Curry despite starting his first 3 years coming off the bench in OKC

Harden is a threat to Currys career arc because he is durable and gets 30 a night, so much so that casuals and nba fans want to keep harden off the free-throw line, and make him play currys style of play. What if we said Giannis has to take 7 threes a game like dirk in his prime because he stays in the paint too much...

all the dominant wing players of their draft class finished with better stats and accumlation of stats of the next closest guy. In Hardens case other than mvp awards and a all-nba snub( which are voted on by biased nba media writers). Harden has had the better career


And with no rings
NBAAnthem
Sophomore
Posts: 235
And1: 119
Joined: Sep 20, 2018

Re: James Harden FGM vs FTM 

Post#17 » by NBAAnthem » Sat Dec 15, 2018 4:27 pm

xavis wrote:
NBAAnthem wrote:Peak Harden is better than Curry. Harden will finish with more career points, steals, assists, and rebounds than Curry despite starting his first 3 years coming off the bench in OKC

Harden is a threat to Currys career arc because he is durable and gets 30 a night, so much so that casuals and nba fans want to keep harden off the free-throw line, and make him play currys style of play. What if we said Giannis has to take 7 threes a game like dirk in his prime because he stays in the paint too much...

all the dominant wing players of their draft class finished with better stats and accumlation of stats of the next closest guy. In Hardens case other than mvp awards and a all-nba snub( which are voted on by biased nba media writers). Harden has had the better career


And with no rings


Last years playoffs showed that “rings” are given not earned

I’m a stats guy over an awards guy when it comes to the nba
dynamic duo
Analyst
Posts: 3,347
And1: 9,343
Joined: May 01, 2013

Re: James Harden FGM vs FTM 

Post#18 » by dynamic duo » Sat Dec 15, 2018 4:35 pm

durant really broke the narrative that rings define individual greatness, 2 rings and zero respect given. not all rings are equal and it shows.
Gooner
Veteran
Posts: 2,895
And1: 2,854
Joined: Sep 02, 2018
 

Re: James Harden FGM vs FTM 

Post#19 » by Gooner » Sat Dec 15, 2018 4:54 pm

dynamic duo wrote:durant really broke the narrative that rings define individual greatness, 2 rings and zero respect given. not all rings are equal and it shows.


Define respect. For me, the ultimate sign of respect is when people don't wanna f*ck with you, not when they tap you on the back and pretend that they like you.

All those butthurt fans complaining about KD's move, saying he ruined the NBA, and hoping that he leaves the Warriors, are actually giving him the most respect. What they are really implying is that he is so good, that he destroyed chances of winning the championship for everybody else, including LeBron. I would enjoy all this criticism if i was him.
life_saver
Analyst
Posts: 3,326
And1: 1,937
Joined: Nov 08, 2017
Location: Minneapolis
     

Re: James Harden FGM vs FTM 

Post#20 » by life_saver » Sat Dec 15, 2018 4:59 pm

This is a stupid comparison

Return to Statistical Analysis