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stats

Posted: Wed Mar 3, 2010 6:56 am
by yuyu_easybasket
Hi,
I''ve got a basic question.
I'm looking for a site where I could find some statistic information like:
what are the standing for nuggets when they played without Billups,
or who was the last under 7 footer that avarged more then 10 rebounds before gerlad wallece.
site where I colud compare some stats.
maybe you could help me.

(sorry for my english, it's not my basic language)

Re: stats

Posted: Wed Mar 3, 2010 10:24 am
by rrravenred
http://www.basketball-reference.com and http://www.hoopdata.com are good places to start.

Basketball-reference also has a really nice search function (look at "Play index" at the top left) which allows very specific searches for teams, players and even games.

http://www.82games.com has some more obscure stats and is best approached if you've got something more specific in mind.

John Hollinger, Dean Oliver and David Berri are some interesting statisticians you can look at for differing (and sometimes bitterly opposed) views.

Re: stats

Posted: Fri Mar 5, 2010 10:32 am
by yuyu_easybasket
thx a lot.
I'll check it out.

easy

Re: stats

Posted: Mon Mar 8, 2010 9:00 am
by AussieBuck
So I don't have to start a new thread, does anyone know why there is a significant difference between Basketball Reference and Hoopdata's numbers for team efficiency and pace? I'd like to believe that the Bucks are the 4th best defensive team rather than 7th. :)

Re: stats

Posted: Mon Mar 8, 2010 3:44 pm
by DrunkOnMystery
AussieBuck wrote:So I don't have to start a new thread, does anyone know why there is a significant difference between Basketball Reference and Hoopdata's numbers for team efficiency and pace? I'd like to believe that the Bucks are the 4th best defensive team rather than 7th. :)


I don't really like Hoopdata, but from what I remember they have a different method for calculating possessions than basketball-reference uses. If that's the case, that could cause a decent discrepancy in efficiency stats.

Re: stats

Posted: Tue Mar 9, 2010 2:38 pm
by mysticbb
AussieBuck wrote:So I don't have to start a new thread, does anyone know why there is a significant difference between Basketball Reference and Hoopdata's numbers for team efficiency and pace? I'd like to believe that the Bucks are the 4th best defensive team rather than 7th. :)


I would take the numbers from Hoopdate with a grain of salt. B-r.com is using the methods developed by Dean Oliver, the guy is doing the advanced stats stuff for the Nuggets (his book "Basketball on Paper" is probably the best about basketball statistics). So, take the numbers from b-r.com. Nice to see that Scott Skiles is always able to build a great defensive team.

Re: stats

Posted: Tue Mar 9, 2010 11:24 pm
by rrravenred
I'd also add www.basketballvalue.com

It has adjusted +/- and more importantly, the play by play data for every game back to 2005. I haven't had a serious play with this data yet, but it looks like a very rich raw data source.