Kyshawn George

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...with 3 inch heels I’m a power forward??...

They don't even wear heels in the WNBA!

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Im 5’11.5” and stood next to Allen Iverson once. I was clearly taller than him. I wonder how much shorter the average nba player is compared to their official listing

[penbeast0]

I coached against Scottie Pippen Jr. and no way Scottie was 6'9 in socks. The "official" numbers are done in shoes and you can do things like add an extra pair of insoles to get 2-3 inches over barefoot numbers. One of our HS teams had a kid who was listed at 6'11; he went to Texas A&M where he was listed at 6'9; then played overseas where he was listed at 6'8; and was probably 6'6. It's one of the weird things from 60s ball where they used college height and weight which was way off in both senses.

[nate33]

I just assume shoes give players about 1.25", and they generally round up for their height listing. So a 6-2 guy is 6-3.25 in shoes, and is listed at 6-4.

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I also round up 2”

[penbeast0]

Do you think Muggsy did that too or was he actually 5'3 and a half and rounded down to make it more impressive?

[tontoz]

It used to be a team discretion thing. I remember specifically Iggy and Josh childress both measured 6'5.75 w/o shoes at the combine. Philly listed Iggy at 6'6 and Atlanta listed Childress at 6'8.

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I just assume shoes give players about 1.25", and they generally round up for their height listing. So a 6-2 guy is 6-3.25 in shoes, and is listed at 6-4.

Right, and since all players do it, and the game is played in shoes, you use the listed height when comparing one guy against another. It's nitpicky to fuss that the numbers aren't entirely accurate. Especially when we are talking about who matches up with who on court.

In the case of Kyshawn he even indicated he's not entirely sure how tall he is now. Just that he seems to be still growing. Doesn't matter, he plays tall. I have been more impressed with his physical transformation over the course of the season. He seemed a bit doughy and underathletic in college, but despite the daily grind of an 82 game schedule it looked to me like he got stronger and more fit over the season. It was good to hear how locked in he is on his daily program. That his routine is pretty much workouts practice and family. Trying to get strong and working on his body.

[tontoz]

I just assume shoes give players about 1.25", and they generally round up for their height listing. So a 6-2 guy is 6-3.25 in shoes, and is listed at 6-4.

Right, and since all players do it, and the game is played in shoes, you use the listed height when comparing one guy against another. It's nitpicky to fuss that the numbers aren't entirely accurate. Especially when we are talking about who matches up with who on court.

In the case of Kyshawn he even indicated he's not entirely sure how tall he is now. Just that he seems to be still growing. Doesn't matter, he plays tall. I have been more impressed with his physical transformation over the course of the season. He seemed a bit doughy and underathletic in college, but despite the daily grind of an 82 game schedule it looked to me like he got stronger and more fit over the season. It was good to hear how locked in he is on his daily program. That his routine is pretty much workouts practice and family. Trying to get strong and working on his body.

But all players didn't do it an never have. It has always been a case of some do and some don't. That is why they are doing away with the in shoes nonsense.

Starting this year ( 2023 ), the NBA announced that all teams must report their players’ precise height and age by the end of training camp. Also, players are no longer allowed to wear shoes during their measurements.

https://charlesdudleywrites.medium.com/why-the-nbas-new-height-listing-regulations-are-short-sighted-5cf0912f37bf#:~:text=Starting%20this%20year%2C%20the%20NBA,player's%20listed%20heights%20for%20decades.

[nate33]

I just assume shoes give players about 1.25", and they generally round up for their height listing. So a 6-2 guy is 6-3.25 in shoes, and is listed at 6-4.

Right, and since all players do it, and the game is played in shoes, you use the listed height when comparing one guy against another. It's nitpicky to fuss that the numbers aren't entirely accurate. Especially when we are talking about who matches up with who on court.

In the case of Kyshawn he even indicated he's not entirely sure how tall he is now. Just that he seems to be still growing. Doesn't matter, he plays tall. I have been more impressed with his physical transformation over the course of the season. He seemed a bit doughy and underathletic in college, but despite the daily grind of an 82 game schedule it looked to me like he got stronger and more fit over the season. It was good to hear how locked in he is on his daily program. That his routine is pretty much workouts practice and family. Trying to get strong and working on his body.

But all players didn't do it an never have. It has always been a case of some do and some don't. That is why they are doing away with the in shoes nonsense.

Starting this year ( 2023 ), the NBA announced that all teams must report their players’ precise height and age by the end of training camp. Also, players are no longer allowed to wear shoes during their measurements.

https://charlesdudleywrites.medium.com/why-the-nbas-new-height-listing-regulations-are-short-sighted-5cf0912f37bf#:~:text=Starting%20this%20year%2C%20the%20NBA,player's%20listed%20heights%20for%20decades.

On a tangential note, that article tontoz posted really overstates the problem at hand. The solution is real simple. Post the actual heights of players without shoes, and then add a uniform height adjustment for shoes. Either +1 inch, +1.5 inches, or something in between - but make it uniform for everyone. That way, players can't lie about their height, but it would still be easy to compare heights across eras.

[Dat2U]

Im 5’11.5” and stood next to Allen Iverson once. I was clearly taller than him. I wonder how much shorter the average nba player is compared to their official listing

Same, I towered over AI and I'm 6-3. It was the summer he was drafted. I kept looking at him because I was like there is no way this scrawny little dude is that good!

Had a similar experience with Courtney Alexander when he played for the Wizards. I was actually slightly taller than him at 6-3 and he's listed at 6-5 and I'm like where did the inches go (pause).

Now football players for some reason are much much wider than they appear on TV. O.J. Simpson was the biggest human I ever saw until I met Lavar Arrington who liked like 3 people lined up and merged into one massive human.

[dobrojim]

One could argue that standing reach and wingspan
are more important to predicting how big someone
seems on the court. Remember Ty Zeller?T-rex arms.

Anyway, standing reach for bigs; wingspan for wing
players.

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One could argue that standing reach and wingspan
are more important to predicting how big someone
seems on the court. Remember Ty Zeller?T-rex arms.

Anyway, standing reach for bigs; wingspan for wing
players.

I'd agree with this. Actually standing reach seems to make a difference for everybody, even those guarding the 3pt shot. And 'Shuttle run' for bigs & front court players. They need lateral speed to play chicken with the 3 second clock. And to backpedal & recover if they challenge the pick and roll.

Its one reason I'm high on Maluach, even if his counting stats don't blow you away. That may change if his purported numbers are fictional, I'm waiting on the combine for a few of the players. I expect a reshuffling of the 1st round when we see the measurements and testing.

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Kyshawn George might be better than the Wizards realized

Kyshawn George shined in game one of summer league play.

By John Canady

While both Johnson and Alex Sarr had their moments throughout this battle, arguably the most eye-opening performance from any Wizards youngster came from former first-round pick Kyshawn George.

Following year one, it was clear down the stretch that George’s versatility would allow for him to be a key role player for Washington moving forward.

Between his size, offensive skillset and ability to switch on defense, the forward has the tools to be a solid rotation player at the next-level.

However, on Friday, he flashed enough to make heads turn and thoughts wonder what his ceiling really could be.

George ended the night with 24 points, 7 rebounds and 3 assists, while shooting an efficient 10/18 from the floor.

From seeming destined to be a glue player for the Wizards to truly seeming like there may be more than meets the eye makes George an intriguing player to monitor.

https://wizofawes.com/kyshawn-george-washington-wizards-realized

[closg00]

Very exciting, even if Bilal doesn't work-out, we have our own KG.

[tontoz]

Year after year in the draft guys with actual skills get underrated and guys with "upside" get overrated. Nice to see we got a guy with size and legit skills.

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