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Re: Dixon To Resign With Wiz? 

Post#61 » by Wizards2Lottery » Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:50 pm

We haven't made the 2nd round since he left. Obviously he was crucial to the teams success.
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Re: Dixon To Resign With Wiz? 

Post#62 » by fishercob » Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:16 pm

Smart move. This will make Gil's transition back to the lineup much easier, because his teammates will already be used to playing with a chucker who doesn't play any D. :wink:
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Re: Dixon To Resign With Wiz? 

Post#63 » by nate33 » Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:36 pm

Dixon's pace-adjusted per-40 numbers over his career:

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dixon,jua  PTS  REB  AST  STL  BLK   TO eFG%  TS%  PER
2007-08   16.5  4.7  6.1  1.3  0.1  3.4 .469 .488 11.5
2006-07   16.2  3.3  2.6  1.6  0.2  2.1 .482 .516 11.2
2005-06   20.7  3.9  3.3  1.3  0.1  2.5 .474 .516 14.6
2004-05   19.2  4.5  4.2  1.6  0.2  2.6 .470 .518 15.3
2003-04   18.1  4.0  3.7  2.2  0.1  2.8 .434 .476 13.6
2002-03   17.6  4.7  2.6  1.7  0.2  2.7 .430 .464 11.0

He was a decent offensive spark for the Wizards in his first 3 years and kept up that level of play in 2005-06 with Portland. But his production has fallen off a cliff since then.

16 points per 40 with a roughly .500 TS% is really, really bad for a so called "scorer". The only noticeable improvement is in the assist category. He averaged 6.1 assists for Detroit, albiet with an unimpressive 1.8 A/TO ratio. The bottom line is that Dixon does not appear to have changed his stripes at all. He's still a no-defense chucker who will shoot you out of more ball games than he'll shoot you in them.

I love his intensity and his life story - he should be a good locker room influence. But I don't really want to see him on the court very much. At best, he's an emergency 5th guard who can be called upon if another guard gets hurt. There's a reason why he is available for a league minimum contract that is only partially guaranteed.
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Re: Dixon To Resign With Wiz? 

Post#64 » by southnc » Thu Sep 25, 2008 3:05 am

Welcome back Juan!! :clap:

Maybe he can also take some time to talk to the Terp basketball team and give them some inspiration, just like he and Blake used to do prior to their leaving for Blazerland. God knows Gary needs all the help he can get. 8-)
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Re: Dixon To Resign With Wiz? 

Post#65 » by BruceO » Thu Sep 25, 2008 4:21 am

he played his heart out for us. He's more than welcome back in my book. Juan is like wizards extended family. He's a fan of the team as well I'm sure
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Re: Dixon To Resign With Wiz? 

Post#66 » by Dat2U » Thu Sep 25, 2008 4:49 am

For the reasons listed above by Nate, I'm not a fan a move. I believe we need to move on from the past. What's next? A trade for Jared Jeffries?

Juan Dixon is a guy who pounds the rock incessantly into the ground and jacks up shot a stupefying rate. I've seen way too many 1-6 nights from Juan to be excited about this move.

My biggest worry is EJ likely relying on him too much with Gil out. Why do I have a funny feeling that Juan will be our 3rd guard? Lord help us if Nick gets off to a slow start and EJ starts giving his minutes to Juan.

Maybe in a different system or for a different coach Juan would be a decent pickup as a "break glass in case of emergency" type player, but not here.
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Re: Dixon To Resign With Wiz? 

Post#67 » by closg00 » Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:39 pm

Hilary Phelps and Robyn Dixon shopping in Chevy Chase on Tuesday night. The sister of Olympic swimmer Michael Phelps and the wife of newly signed Washington Wizard Juan Dixon dropped by the grand-opening party of Nanette Lepore's boutique.

:lol: Already out spending JD's new contract money.....and hey! he's Juan Dixon not Gilbert Arenas. Juan, don't end up like MC Hammer.
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Post#68 » by dobrojim » Thu Sep 25, 2008 3:10 pm

While I do see the dangers as described by MJG/Nate/Dat I'll simply point out
it's a low risk move given the contract is reportedly non-guaranteed minimum

and

he totally knows the system, no learning curve.

that said, lets hope we're not forced to play him much. He is simply
physically overmatched by the vast majority of players he would be
called upon to check.

N-ONE needs to be da-man off the bench this year along with 'proof

we'll be a decent team once again if:

1. Etan's return doesn't diminish Wood's minutes

2. the triumverate (sp?) of Blatche/Young/DMac incrementally improve maybe even OPech
if he can earn any minutes

3. no more major injuries

Dixon can't replace what Mason gave us in terms of play on both sides of the ball.
Young has to step up. Dixon could be a role model for N-One in terms of demonstrating
the dedication/work ethic and seriousness (but obviously not the rock pounding).
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Re: Dixon To Resign With Wiz? 

Post#69 » by Ruzious » Thu Sep 25, 2008 3:41 pm

nate33 wrote:I don't think the "Vince Carter is Waived Scenario" is much of a concern. Any superstar-caliber player who gets cut is going to look to join a legit title contender, not a middling 4-6 seed in the East. He'd also probably seek the prorated portion of the full MLE, not the prorated portion of a veteran minimum contract.

To me, the only real concern is the potential that we get a rash of injuries at one position and need to sign an emergency replacement. If Dixon's contract is non-guaranteed, then we shouldn't have any problem. If, for example, Etan and Haywood both get hurt and leave us thin at center, we can cut Dixon and go sign a random 7-foot veteran off waivers.

Also, Dee Brown's contract is only partially guaranteed. We probably have the luxtax room to cut Brown, absorb the guaranteed portion of his deal, and still find an emergency replacement at a position of need.

And you want to prevent injuries from happening. You get depth like Dixon so you don't over-work the players ahead of him - so you're not risking injury on them. You don't want to get in a position where you're playing Daniels 30 plus minutes a game, because you know he can't physically keep that up. And you don't want to keep playing Stevenson 35 minutes when his knee is swollen. You let him rest and have Dixon backup Young.
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Re: Dixon To Resign With Wiz? 

Post#70 » by Joe_Wiz » Thu Sep 25, 2008 3:44 pm

Well, he's no Laron Profit, but I guess he'll do . . . :D

Seriously, I'd rather have seen a minor trade for a young point who could take over Daniels' job in a year or two in addition to being a stop-gap help while Gil is out. But this move preserves flexibility for the expected 2009-2010 mid- or post-season move and seems like a reasonable move given our lux tax situation and such.
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Re: Dixon To Resign With Wiz? 

Post#71 » by LyricalRico » Thu Sep 25, 2008 3:54 pm

Dat2U wrote:My biggest worry is EJ likely relying on him too much with Gil out. Why do I have a funny feeling that Juan will be our 3rd guard? Lord help us if Nick gets off to a slow start and EJ starts giving his minutes to Juan.

Maybe in a different system or for a different coach Juan would be a decent pickup as a "break glass in case of emergency" type player, but not here.


Co-sign. And now that EJ has nothing to fear with the surprise extension, he can toy with his small-ball hustle lineups to his heart's content. Be prepared to see lineups like this a lot this year:

Songaila
Jamison
Butler
Dixon
Brown

Man, I can't believe I initially supported this move. :nonono:
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Re: Dixon To Resign With Wiz? 

Post#72 » by nate33 » Thu Sep 25, 2008 4:00 pm

Ruzious wrote:
nate33 wrote:I don't think the "Vince Carter is Waived Scenario" is much of a concern. Any superstar-caliber player who gets cut is going to look to join a legit title contender, not a middling 4-6 seed in the East. He'd also probably seek the prorated portion of the full MLE, not the prorated portion of a veteran minimum contract.

To me, the only real concern is the potential that we get a rash of injuries at one position and need to sign an emergency replacement. If Dixon's contract is non-guaranteed, then we shouldn't have any problem. If, for example, Etan and Haywood both get hurt and leave us thin at center, we can cut Dixon and go sign a random 7-foot veteran off waivers.

Also, Dee Brown's contract is only partially guaranteed. We probably have the luxtax room to cut Brown, absorb the guaranteed portion of his deal, and still find an emergency replacement at a position of need.

And you want to prevent injuries from happening. You get depth like Dixon so you don't over-work the players ahead of him - so you're not risking injury on them. You don't want to get in a position where you're playing Daniels 30 plus minutes a game, because you know he can't physically keep that up. And you don't want to keep playing Stevenson 35 minutes when his knee is swollen. You let him rest and have Dixon backup Young.

AD and Stevenson will play 30 minutes. Dee Brown and Young will play 18 minutes. Caron Butler can also steal some minutes at SG. I don't see Dixon's presence as a major factor in avoiding injuries. We only have to survive for 2 months until Arenas comes back and bumps Dee Brown down to benchwarmer status.

Of course, if somebody else gets hurt, then we might need Dixon. But that argument applies to lots of other positions too. That's my point. There is no need to commit our 15th roster spot to a redundant, older, shorter version of Nick Young when we don't know what our needs will be down the road.

FWIW, I'm not up in arms about this or anything. It's not an awful move. Dixon is a decent insurance policy at the end of the bench and might well be better than anybody else who was available for the vet minimum. Another positive is that he knows the system and will be ready on Day 1. And we know he'll be a good practice guy.
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Re: Dixon To Resign With Wiz? 

Post#73 » by Wizards2Lottery » Thu Sep 25, 2008 5:26 pm

Somebody please bump Amazingly Sucky Juan Dixon thread.

or did that get lost in the REALGM change :nonono:
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Re: Dixon To Resign With Wiz? 

Post#74 » by Kanyewest » Thu Sep 25, 2008 6:17 pm

nate33 wrote:
AD and Stevenson will play 30 minutes. Dee Brown and Young will play 18 minutes. Caron Butler can also steal some minutes at SG. I don't see Dixon's presence as a major factor in avoiding injuries. We only have to survive for 2 months until Arenas comes back and bumps Dee Brown down to benchwarmer status.

Of course, if somebody else gets hurt, then we might need Dixon. But that argument applies to lots of other positions too. That's my point. There is no need to commit our 15th roster spot to a redundant, older, shorter version of Nick Young when we don't know what our needs will be down the road.

FWIW, I'm not up in arms about this or anything. It's not an awful move. Dixon is a decent insurance policy at the end of the bench and might well be better than anybody else who was available for the vet minimum. Another positive is that he knows the system and will be ready on Day 1. And we know he'll be a good practice guy.


Last time I checked, there aren't really any viable big men available in free agency (I know Dikembe is a free agent but odds are he will re-sign with the rockets or go to a contender). The Wizards currently have 4 guys who can play center (Haywood, Thomas, Blatche, and McGee) and if they get desperate, they can play Songailia and O-Pec spot minutes at that spot.

I don't think Dee Brown is a lock to get 18 minutes even with Arenas out. Dixon can play spot minutes at the point guard slot instead of Daniels (with Stevenson initiating the offense) so that the Wizards have more shooters to stretch the court.

Given Eddie Jordan's coaching tendenacy, I wouldn't be surprised to see some small ball (i.e. a lineup of Daneils Dixon, Stevenson, Jamison, Haywood). Let's also hope that Hopla can improve Dixon's percentages even more.
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Re: Dixon To Resign With Wiz? 

Post#75 » by 20MexicanosIn1Van » Thu Sep 25, 2008 9:03 pm

With Eddie Jordan as our coach, Juan Dixon will take Nick Young's minutes. Thus, a bad move. Should've just resigned Mason.
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Post#76 » by JWizmentality » Thu Sep 25, 2008 9:22 pm

20MexicanosIn1Van wrote:With Eddie Jordan as our coach, Juan Dixon will take Nick Young's minutes. Thus, a bad move. Should've just resigned Mason.



Mason wasn't signed for the vet minimum. This move doesn't hurt our pocket and Dixon will flurish in this system. The only thing bad about this move is the EFJ factor.
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Post#77 » by Dat2U » Thu Sep 25, 2008 9:53 pm

JWizmentality wrote:
20MexicanosIn1Van wrote:With Eddie Jordan as our coach, Juan Dixon will take Nick Young's minutes. Thus, a bad move. Should've just resigned Mason.



Mason wasn't signed for the vet minimum. This move doesn't hurt our pocket and Dixon will flurish in this system. The only thing bad about this move is the EFJ factor.


Dixon will flourish in this system? Why is that so? He didn't "flourish" in EJ's system when he was here prior. Dixon is what he is. A high volume, low efficiency shot jacker who is a defensive mismatch waiting to happen. That's what he was for us a couple of years ago, that's what he'll be now.

Let's make one thing clear. When Juan is on the court, no matter how much heart or toughness he has, it's likely that the team will suffer or lose ground while he's out there. Unless it's one of those rare nights that his shots go in, Juan is a net negative.

The only positive thing I can take out of the deal is its not hurting us financially. But this is about the Wizards re-signing a 3rd stringer that overvalues his own abilities and a coach that overvalues his abilities as well. That will likely mean plenty of minutes and shots for a guy that shouldn't get them.

While were at it, why doesn't EG just sign Michael Ruffin too.
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Re: Dixon To Resign With Wiz? 

Post#78 » by JWizmentality » Thu Sep 25, 2008 10:04 pm

Dat2U wrote:
JWizmentality wrote:
20MexicanosIn1Van wrote:With Eddie Jordan as our coach, Juan Dixon will take Nick Young's minutes. Thus, a bad move. Should've just resigned Mason.



Mason wasn't signed for the vet minimum. This move doesn't hurt our pocket and Dixon will flurish in this system. The only thing bad about this move is the EFJ factor.


Dixon will flourish in this system? Why is that so? He didn't "flourish" in EJ's system when he was here prior. Dixon is what he is. A high volume, low efficiency shot jacker who is a defensive mismatch waiting to happen. That's what he was for us a couple of years ago, that's what he'll be now.

Let's make one thing clear. When Juan is on the court, no matter how much heart or toughness he has, it's likely that the team will suffer or lose ground while he's out there. Unless it's one of those rare nights that his shots go in, Juan is a net negative.

The only positive thing I can take out of the deal is its not hurting us financially. But this is about the Wizards re-signing a 3rd stringer that overvalues his own abilities and a coach that overvalues his abilities as well. That will likely mean plenty of minutes and shots for a guy that shouldn't get them.

While were at it, why doesn't EG just sign Michael Ruffin too.


C'mon Dat, Juan aint that bad. If he's used like Mason last year he'll do fine, perhaps even better since he's much quicker and can get to the line. I also think his minutes should be limited, and should only really be played in case of emergency. However, since EJ is our coach I'd like to think that Juan has learned alot over the years and is humbled to accept his role. He certainly sounded that way in the interview, not like the Juan who was out to prove something some time ago. I think we'll be presently surprised how much he's matured.
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Post#79 » by dandridge 10 » Thu Sep 25, 2008 10:45 pm

The problem with Juan is that while he might come close to putting up the same offensive numbers as Mason, he will do so at much less efficiency. Moreover, he will not even come close to giving the defensive production. Although Mason was no Bruce Bowen, he is far superior on the defensive end than Juan. I said it before but I'll say it again, we are really going to miss Mason this year. He was our most consistent player coming off the bench last year by far.
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Re: Dixon To Resign With Wiz? 

Post#80 » by Kanyewest » Thu Sep 25, 2008 10:56 pm

20MexicanosIn1Van wrote:With Eddie Jordan as our coach, Juan Dixon will take Brendan Haywood's minutes.


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