So am I right in assuming that McGee is near untouchable?

azuresou1 · Post #1 » by **azuresou1** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:02 pm

Jordan Crawford for JaVale McGee? Yes/no?

Nivek · Post #2 » by **Nivek** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:10 pm

This belongs in the trade thread.

No.

Benjammin · Post #3 » by **Benjammin** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:14 pm

IBTM

Jordan Crawford has had a couple nice pre-season games. He'll be 22 in nine days so he's not a phenom. He's doesn't have great size at the 2, he has a nice stroke. Despite dunking over La Queen, he's not an amazing athlete. So yeah, Jordan Crawford isn't going to get it done for an uber athletic 7+ footer. McGee is only nine months older than Crawford and everyone knows that big guys develop later. Who knows is JaVale ever puts it together, but Crawford doesn't begin to get a sniff of him.

dlts20 · Post #4 » by **dlts20** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:18 pm

we have alot of guards already

verbal8 · Post #5 » by **verbal8** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:19 pm

dlts20 wrote:we have alot of guards already

And Atlanta has their starting bigs for the foreseeable future. Besides the value difference it really makes no sense.

Post #6 » by **nate33** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:24 pm

Benjammin wrote:IBTM

Jordan Crawford has had a couple nice pre-season games. He'll be 22 in nine days so he's not a phenom. He's doesn't have great size at the 2, he has a nice stroke. Despite dunking over La Queen, he's not an amazing athlete. So yeah, Jordan Crawford isn't going to get it done for an uber athletic 7+ footer. McGee is only nine months older than Crawford and everyone knows that big guys develop later. Who knows is JaVale ever puts it together, but Crawford doesn't begin to get a sniff of him.

Undersized 2's are a dime-a-dozen in this league. Generally, they can be negated pretty easily once a team gets a scouting report out. Crawford may look good now, but he'll look a lot worse after 10 games or so.

Don't get me wrong. He's still a nice pickup considering where he was drafted. He just won't pan out to be a star, or even an average starter.

closg00 · Post #7 » by **closg00** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:18 pm

nate33 wrote:
Benjammin wrote:IBTM

Jordan Crawford has had a couple nice pre-season games. He'll be 22 in nine days so he's not a phenom. He's doesn't have great size at the 2, he has a nice stroke. Despite dunking over La Queen, he's not an amazing athlete. So yeah, Jordan Crawford isn't going to get it done for an uber athletic 7+ footer. McGee is only nine months older than Crawford and everyone knows that big guys develop later. Who knows is JaVale ever puts it together, but Crawford doesn't begin to get a sniff of him.

Undersized 2's are a dime-a-dozen in this league. Generally, they can be negated pretty easily once a team gets a scouting report out. Crawford may look good now, but he'll look a lot worse after 10 games or so.

Don't get me wrong. He's still a nice pickup considering where he was drafted. He just won't pan out to be a star, or even an average starter.

Damn Nate, are you sure you want to make that kind of proclamation now?

Wizards2Lottery · Post #8 » by **Wizards2Lottery** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:24 pm

Never trade big for small based unless the small is significantly better than the big.

Post #9 » by **nate33** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:45 pm

closg00 wrote:Damn Nate, are you sure you want to make that kind of proclamation now?

How many 6-4 SG's start in this league (excluding the ones like Wade with a freakish wingspan)? I'll make it easy for you. Here is a list of players 6-4 and under, who average less than 5 assists (to weed out some PG's) who managed to play 2000 or more minutes.

The list doesn't do a great job of weeding out the point guards. But if you scan through the list, you really only see a handful of shooting guards that don't suck:

Wade
Ellis
Gordon
Barbosa
Mobley
Jason Terry
George Hill
Delonte West
Mayo

I don't consider any player on this list to be an average or better starting SG except Wade, Mayo and Ellis. And Wade and Mayo have freakish wingspans that allow them to play taller than their listed height. Crawford doesn't have that.

I think, in a best case scenario, Crawford pans out to be a supersub 6th man.

pancakes3 · Post #10 » by **pancakes3** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:21 pm

haha, wow. talk about the zeitgeist player de jour. jordan crawford? i wouldn't trade mcgee for brandon jennings and that kid dropped 55! in a real game!

willbcocks · Post #11 » by **willbcocks** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:09 am

If we didn't have Wall, I would trade Mcgee for Jennings, I love the kid's moxy, he knows how to run a team, and I think he will develop a pretty lethal 3 ball.

Seriously though, how do you say untouchable and then offer Jordan Crawford in one sentence? :roll:

Give me a top tier sg/sf prospect and I'll give you Mcgee.

TheGreatWall · Post #12 » by **TheGreatWall** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:23 am

azuresou1 wrote:Jordan Crawford for JaVale McGee? Yes/no?

Sure, if Horford is coming with.

no D in Hibachi · Post #13 » by **no D in Hibachi** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:19 am

^
Speaking of Horford it's so absolutely apparent he's a PF. McGee is so long and tall he makes Horford look like a shrimp. I just don't get why ALT plays him out of position, he'd be an incredible PF.

azuresou1 · Post #14 » by **azuresou1** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:41 am

Why do you think I'm interested in McGee in the first place?

Post #15 » by **Ruzious** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:42 am

willbcocks wrote:Seriously though, how do you say untouchable and then offer Jordan Crawford in one sentence?

It'd be like one of us saying - If Josh Smith isn't untouchable, how about him for Booker? Deal?

dangermouse · Post #16 » by **dangermouse** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:40 am

I dont think McGee is completely untouchable, if the right package came along.

Jordan Crawford is pretty F'n far from the right package though.