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Re: Golden State VS Wizards 7PM Tonight 

Post#221 » by BruceO » Thu Mar 3, 2011 3:37 pm

also for blatche he showed well last season and we knew he would suck cause of injury. this doesnt bail out his attitude and shot selection. give him the offseason draft kanter and let blatche and mcgee fight to start alongside. blatche at his price and ability i would keep as a backup. i'd only trade him for a deal that gets a legit starter. he needs to stop being a bull**itter though
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Post#222 » by LyricalRico » Thu Mar 3, 2011 5:20 pm

closg00 wrote:
pancakes3 wrote:
DMVleGeND wrote:I haven't given up on Dray either. Y'all two, me, and dlts20 are probably the only ones that haven't. I'm just not sure he has the frame to play center though. And he's not as quick as he was last season. I think he's better at PF. He needs to stop coasting on offense though, and needs to make a better effort boxing out.


mhd, wash wiz, dlts20, dmv, big3, AND me and cdouglas... and half of hands. that's a good portion of the board. still a minority, but significant enough.


Haven't given-up on either Dray or McGee. McGee will be worth waiting on. I want to see these guys playing under a different coach and system. Dray can get back to being a decent big, but I wouldn't mind having someone in the wings that could steal minutes from him.


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Re: Golden State VS Wizards 7PM Tonight 

Post#223 » by Wizards2Lottery » Thu Mar 3, 2011 5:39 pm

I'm quoting a poster from another board: Blatche fans will soon be joining the likes of the Do-do bird and the Tasmanian Tiger.
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Post#224 » by fishercob » Thu Mar 3, 2011 5:46 pm

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fishercob wrote:I only saw the last few minutes of the game. EVen when Nick excels he pisses me off -- he hits that huge three to cut it to one, then skips back downcourt hooting and shaking his head instead of immediately d-ing up and helping deny Curry the ball. He's just a dummy; not a winning player.









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Are you of the opinion that Young's celebrating after cutting the lead to 1 with 6 seconds to go was the right play? Would at all have proposed to see him focus on the task at hand? Could you see Ginobili, Wade, Kobe, Durant, Deron Williams, Raja Bell or even -- gasp -- Lebron celebrating to with his team down a point with six seconds left?
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Post#225 » by dobrojim » Thu Mar 3, 2011 5:47 pm

Spence wrote:39-25 on rebounds
22-9 on assists.
Unfortunately, the Wiz are on the wrong side of those numbers.


those are surely ugly numbers

what I tend to see during game is a basic tendency to be
unable to get good shots for themselves combined with
a reciprocal inability to keep the opp from getting good
shots. An obvious example of this is when a high screen
(or pick) is set. When we do that, the resulting shot is
much more likely to be defended than when we're defending.
These guys simply don't know how to play.
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Post#226 » by LyricalRico » Thu Mar 3, 2011 5:55 pm

fishercob wrote:Are you of the opinion that Young's celebrating after cutting the lead to 1 with 6 seconds to go was the right play? Would at all have proposed to see him focus on the task at hand? Could you see Ginobili, Wade, Kobe, Durant, Deron Williams, Raja Bell or even -- gasp -- Lebron celebrating to with his team down a point with six seconds left?


Exactly. Jordan Crawford was thinking the same thing because he had a bewildered look when he had to foul Curry. Young should have stayed in the backcourt to help defend the inbounds.
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Post#227 » by dobrojim » Thu Mar 3, 2011 6:07 pm

80sballboy wrote:
mhd wrote:I'd shut Lewis down. No need to play him. Tell him to heal up. Howard, Evans, Crawford, and at some spots, Booker can hold the fort.


Dude's making an awful lot of money to sit. I'd sit him maybe with 10 games left unless he can't physically do it anymore.


Dude'll be making a lot of money next year as well. No real point in
playing him more now if he has more chance to heal up. Now if it
makes no difference, play him some.

It's not about this year. Play Book and Seraphin a lot.

McGee should be fined every time he skies on a pump fake,
every time his goaltends/gm >> block/gm, every time he
goes for a block allowing the opp C an easy putback dunk.
He appears to believe that because he may have gotten
robbed in the dunk contest, that that somehow means
he can play NBA basketball. His early season promise
has completely disappeared. The 'chemistry' that he
and Wall displayed is all but inert at this juncture.

Seraphin may as well start. Maybe this will wake up
JM to the fact that he's got more than a little work
to do in his approach to the game.
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Post#228 » by dobrojim » Thu Mar 3, 2011 6:12 pm

WashWiz54 wrote:[

Count me in on that bandwagon. Dat and I were talking about us liking Blatche more than McGee and believing in his turn around a lot more. Glad to see more people have that feeling.


Blatche's motor and body language are clearly an issue, but his basketball
instincts are world's better than McGee.

I fear that we may have to endure another season of those
2 as feature players on our frontline. Either might improve
a little (it would be hard for them to be worse), but I'm not
holding my breath.

Blatche really mostly needs to just bust his tail when he's on
the floor. McGee needs to get a clue.
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Post#229 » by tontoz » Thu Mar 3, 2011 6:15 pm

fishercob wrote:Are you of the opinion that Young's celebrating after cutting the lead to 1 with 6 seconds to go was the right play? Would at all have proposed to see him focus on the task at hand? Could you see Ginobili, Wade, Kobe, Durant, Deron Williams, Raja Bell or even -- gasp -- Lebron celebrating to with his team down a point with six seconds left?


After a made basket a players job is generally to get back on defense. It is only reflexive for him to start backpeddaling. There is nobody in the league who would have thought to sprint from nearly half court to try and deny Curry the ball when there were several teamates much closer to the basket. Even if he had tried to sprint up there quickly he probably wouldn't have been able to get there in time.

Nick scored 14 points in the 4th quarter to give them a chance to win and you are going to harp on this? How come you aren't criticizing Wall for not denying trying to deny Curry? I guess he is a dumb player that you can't win with. Jordan was back there by himself.

Get a grip.
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Post#230 » by dobrojim » Thu Mar 3, 2011 6:18 pm

nuposse04 wrote:I'd say McGee's ceiling is Tyson Chandler, although I don't think he'll ever attain that. If Blatche can put it all back together his ceiling is something similar to Aldridge, give he was playing like Aldridge Lite at the end of last season, I think odds are probably in the favor that he turns out to be the one to keep. Blatche doesn't have to dominate, he just has to be good, borderline star good. Wall and Young have to be great for us, I think it is within the bounds of expectations they can be that. The most important thing Ted can do right now, is hire a bigman coach that will DEMAND these kids attention. Unfortunately I have no **** clue who that would be. I have to note one thing, I can't blame Blatche for his demeanor at times given who he's asked to pair up with in stretches of games. Yi+Mcgee are horrible people to try to compliment him with, they have awful hands in the post. Like worse than Kwame...



Get ex Bullets Unseld, Hayes and Ruland to threaten them with bodily
harm if they dont A) get a clue and B) grow a pair (play like NBA bigs).
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Re: Golden State VS Wizards 7PM Tonight 

Post#231 » by fishercob » Thu Mar 3, 2011 6:26 pm

tontoz wrote:
fishercob wrote:Are you of the opinion that Young's celebrating after cutting the lead to 1 with 6 seconds to go was the right play? Would at all have proposed to see him focus on the task at hand? Could you see Ginobili, Wade, Kobe, Durant, Deron Williams, Raja Bell or even -- gasp -- Lebron celebrating to with his team down a point with six seconds left?


After a made basket a players job is generally to get back on defense. It is only reflexive for him to start backpeddaling. There is nobody in the league who would have thought to sprint from nearly half court to try and deny Curry the ball when there were several teamates much closer to the basket. Even if he had tried to sprint up there quickly he probably wouldn't have been able to get there in time.

Nick scored 14 points in the 4th quarter to give them a chance to win and you are going to harp on this? Get a grip.


That's a losing mentality. It's a deflection of accountability and responsibility anathema to the precise kind of culture the Wizards are trying to build. I'm not saying Nick is a bad player; I'm just saying he made the wrong play. Why won't you concede that?

No one in the league? Every other Wizard was in the front court trying to defend the inbounds. It's not that he just didn;t find Curry -- he ran away from the play entirely (gesticulating at his own success). He doesn't deserve the death penalty, but the coaches must point out the mistake and Nick must correct it if he's going to be a meaningful player in this league.

Bottom line is the Wizards loss and no one should be celebrating or feel good about it. When we win, everyone has a right be happy. Win as a team, lose as a team. That's winning basketball. I understand that Nick was caught up in the moment of hitting a big shot. But that's a sign of immaturity and unwitting selfishness. At all times, he -- and all his teammates -- should be focused on helping the team win and nothing else.
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Post#232 » by dobrojim » Thu Mar 3, 2011 6:26 pm

Wall really played like ass on the D end as well last night.
For a guy with his quicks, he does an exceptionally
poor job denying penetration while also allowing
open shots. He's 20 and I hope his words expressing
desire to get better are sincere. He could be phenomenal
and occasionally already is. But he's still got work to do.

And the Wiz need to stop bloating his assist totals
on the Great Wall of assists. I would be embarrassed
to constantly be over his actual total every game.
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Post#233 » by tontoz » Thu Mar 3, 2011 6:36 pm

fishercob wrote:That's a losing mentality. It's a deflection of accountability and responsibility anathema to the precise kind of culture the Wizards are trying to build. I'm not saying Nick is a bad player; I'm just saying he made the wrong play. Why won't you concede that?



Because i wasn't in the huddle and neither were you. You dont know who was responsible for what.

No one in the league? Every other Wizard was in the front court trying to defend the inbounds.


LOL so why was Jordan looking around for his teamates after fouling Curry if everyone was back there with him?

If everyone else was trying to the inbounds pass then GS could have thrown a baseball pass over the top for an easy fast break layup while taking time off the clock.
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Post#234 » by fishercob » Thu Mar 3, 2011 6:50 pm

To who? Nick wasn't in the backcourt to guard against the long pass? There was no one there. He was just showboating.

And I was in the huddle. In case you haven't figured this out by now, I'm Hamady N'Diaye!
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Post#235 » by dandridge 10 » Thu Mar 3, 2011 6:56 pm

I think Fish's main problem with Young during that last inbounds play is not that he was celebrating or he was on the other end of the court. I think Fish's problem is that Young was hooting and hollering to the crowd with his back to the inbounds play, oblivous to what was happening behind him. Honestly, if one of the Warriors realized what Young was doing, they could have sprinted the length of the court without Young noticing because he was too busy wuffing at the crowd with his back turned to the inbound play. Should Young be crucified for being caught up in the moment? No. However, it continues to show he has some maturing to do.
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Post#236 » by tontoz » Thu Mar 3, 2011 7:06 pm

fishercob wrote:To who? Nick wasn't in the backcourt to guard against the long pass? There was no one there. He was just showboating.

And I was in the huddle. In case you haven't figured this out by now, I'm Hamady N'Diaye!



If they had all their players on one side of the court someone could easily sprint down the court and be wide open, possibly dribbling out the clock. Since Nick was the furthest player from the basket when the shot went in it was probably his responsiblity to get back.

I didn't see Wall anywhere near Curry. Jordan was looking around for his teamates after fouling Curry and nobody was around.

Players celebrate all the time during comebacks. It isn't something Nick just invented.
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Post#237 » by TheBigThree » Thu Mar 3, 2011 7:08 pm

Have you ever played basketball before? No coach in there right mind would make Nick, the SF, try to deny Curry the ball there. Of course someone should have helped Crawford deny Curry the ball, that person was John Wall, who was no where to be found.
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Post#238 » by cwb3 » Thu Mar 3, 2011 8:51 pm

nate33 wrote:I only caught the 4th quarter so I feel pretty good about this one. :D


I only caught the 1st quarter so I feel pretty good about this on. :D
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