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Official Trade Thread XVII: 6/29/11 - 1/20 /12

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Re: Official Trade Thread XVII 

Post#1461 » by llcc25 » Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:56 pm

How about this trade w/ HOU at deadline:

Wiz trade Blatche, Booker, Singleton for Scola and Morris

Why for HOU- they save roughly $2.5m/year for next 3 years w/Blatche over Scola. They get 2 good prospects in Booker/Singleton for Morris.

Why for Wiz- we finally get rid of Blatche. Scola will upgrade our low post offense immediately and better fit alongside McGee if we decide to keep in. Yes he's 31, but if we plan on drafting Davis or another rookie PF with our lottery pick, it will be good to have a proven PF veteran to bring him along. We also get Morris, who can brings the offensive talent that both Booker/Singleton lack. I think he's versatile enough like A Harrington to play both PF/SF.

At end of season, we hopefully draft Davis, we go hard after Gordon, see if we can sign shooting SF ala Batum, and sign McGee or another FA center:

Our realistic lineup next year would then :
PG-Wall/Mack
SG-Gordon/Crawford
SF-Batum/Vesely/Morris
PF-Scola/Davis/Morris
C- McGee/Seraphin

Assuming we amnesty Lewis, we can offer Gordon max at $15m and sign McGee or another FA center at $10m/yr, and give an SF like Batum long term deal at $6m...we are at the salary cap of around $58m

This lineup would definitely contend for playoffs next year and based on development of Davis, and continued development of Wall and McGee, I can see this team being top 4 in East in 3 years.

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Re: Official Trade Thread XVII 

Post#1462 » by GhostsOfGil » Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:38 pm

llcc25 wrote:How about this trade w/ HOU at deadline:

Wiz trade Blatche, Booker, Singleton for Scola and Morris

Why for HOU- they save roughly $2.5m/year for next 3 years w/Blatche over Scola. They get 2 good prospects in Booker/Singleton for Morris.

Why for Wiz- we finally get rid of Blatche. Scola will upgrade our low post offense immediately and better fit alongside McGee if we decide to keep in. Yes he's 31, but if we plan on drafting Davis or another rookie PF with our lottery pick, it will be good to have a proven PF veteran to bring him along. We also get Morris, who can brings the offensive talent that both Booker/Singleton lack. I think he's versatile enough like A Harrington to play both PF/SF.

At end of season, we hopefully draft Davis, we go hard after Gordon, see if we can sign shooting SF ala Batum, and sign McGee or another FA center:

Our realistic lineup next year would then :
PG-Wall/Mack
SG-Gordon/Crawford
SF-Batum/Vesely/Morris
PF-Scola/Davis/Morris
C- McGee/Seraphin

Assuming we amnesty Lewis, we can offer Gordon max at $15m and sign McGee or another FA center at $10m/yr, and give an SF like Batum long term deal at $6m...we are at the salary cap of around $58m

This lineup would definitely contend for playoffs next year and based on development of Davis, and continued development of Wall and McGee, I can see this team being top 4 in East in 3 years.

Thoughts?


IMO this is bad for Houston. Wiz would probably have to add a future (protected) 1st and even after that, I'm not sure if it's enough.
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Re: Official Trade Thread XVII 

Post#1463 » by nate33 » Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:14 pm

No way in hell Houston does that.
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Re: Official Trade Thread XVII 

Post#1464 » by llcc25 » Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:44 pm

Here is another one. Had to be creative on trade checker to make it work. Since UTAH is shopping Devin Harris, how about offering Blatche, Vesley, Booker and Mack, for Kanter and Harris?

Utah gets rid of Harris $8.5m salary next year and nice prospects in Booker and Vesley as incentive for taking on Blatche who may thrive in new environment and coaching staff

Wiz gets rid of Blatche and his contract, Harris upgrades our backup PG immediately, and his only on books for next year. And then we get Kanter, the guy we wanted in the draft.
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Re: Official Trade Thread XVII 

Post#1465 » by GhostsOfGil » Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:47 pm

llcc25 wrote:Here is another one. Had to be creative on trade checker to make it work. Since UTAH is shopping Devin Harris, how about offering Blatche, Vesley, Booker and Mack, for Kanter and Harris?

Utah gets rid of Harris $8.5m salary next year and nice prospects in Booker and Vesley as incentive for taking on Blatche who may thrive in new environment and coaching staff

Wiz gets rid of Blatche and his contract, Harris upgrades our backup PG immediately, and his only on books for next year. And then we get Kanter, the guy we wanted in the draft.


you should probably just stop 8-)
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Post#1466 » by nate33 » Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:01 pm

zaRdsAndZeRos wrote:
llcc25 wrote:Here is another one. Had to be creative on trade checker to make it work. Since UTAH is shopping Devin Harris, how about offering Blatche, Vesley, Booker and Mack, for Kanter and Harris?

Utah gets rid of Harris $8.5m salary next year and nice prospects in Booker and Vesley as incentive for taking on Blatche who may thrive in new environment and coaching staff

Wiz gets rid of Blatche and his contract, Harris upgrades our backup PG immediately, and his only on books for next year. And then we get Kanter, the guy we wanted in the draft.


you should probably just stop 8-)

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These deals are wildly unfair for the other team. Utah wouldn't give up Kanter alone for Vesely, Booker and Mack. What makes you think they'd throw in a Blatche for Harris swap on top?
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Post#1467 » by sfam » Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:10 pm

llcc25 wrote:Here is another one. Had to be creative on trade checker to make it work. Since UTAH is shopping Devin Harris, how about offering Blatche, Vesley, Booker and Mack, for Kanter and Harris?

Utah gets rid of Harris $8.5m salary next year and nice prospects in Booker and Vesley as incentive for taking on Blatche who may thrive in new environment and coaching staff

Wiz gets rid of Blatche and his contract, Harris upgrades our backup PG immediately, and his only on books for next year. And then we get Kanter, the guy we wanted in the draft.

Heck, why don't we just go Blatche for Howard? I'm sure we'd need to throw some folks in like Seaphin to make salaries work, but as long as we're fantasizing....
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Re: Official Trade Thread XVII 

Post#1468 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:33 pm

EDITED: I had not read the posts above when I originally posted. This trade IMO is realistic and fair--nobody wants Blatche's deal right now, and the Wizards aren't getting any of Utah's young talent.

Utah wants to get rid of Devin Harris. He is a veteran who has started at PG.

How about Washington sends Lewis, Seraphin, Mack and a 2013 first round pick to Utah for Al Jefferson, Devin Harris, and Jeremy Evans?

Jefferson is the low post PF this team needs. He is a good shooter and a very good defensive rebounder, two areas the Wizards need improving. His game would make McGee's life easier. Harris can be a third guard who allows the Wizards to let Young walk. Evans reminds me a lot of Josh Smith. I think he's tremendously underrated. If the Wizards are bound to lose McGee and nobody will take Blatche, then perhaps getting Jefferson for the froncourt makes sense.

Utah moves Harris, someone they do no want. They would reunite Mack with Gordon Hayward. By moving Jefferson, they allow Kanter and Favors more time at C. Who knows, but Seraphin also fits Corbin's style of play.

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Re: Official Trade Thread XVII 

Post#1469 » by LyricalRico » Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:36 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Utah wants to get rid of Devin Harris. He is a veteran who has started at PG, and who would

How about Washington sends Lewis, Seraphin, Mack and a 2013 first round pick to Utah for Al Jefferson, Devin Harris, and Jeremy Evans?

Jefferson is the low post PF this team needs. He is a good shooter and a very good defensive rebounder, two areas the Wizards need improving. His game would make McGee's life easier. Harris can be a third guard who allows the Wizards to let Young walk. Evans reminds me a lot of Josh Smith. I think he's tremendously underrated.

Utah moves Harris, someone they do no want. They would reunite Mack with Gordon Hayward. By moving Jefferson, they allow Kanter and Favors more time at C. Who knows, but Seraphin also fits Corbin's style of play.

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I was thinking something similar, but with Crawford instead of the 2013 first.
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Re: Official Trade Thread XVII 

Post#1470 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:37 pm

By all means, if they'll take Crawford that's even better, LR.

I just don't think they would give away Jefferson without getting back a pick or a comparable player.
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Re: Official Trade Thread XVII 

Post#1471 » by LyricalRico » Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:13 pm

^ True, big Al is still averaging 18 & 9. In the end I doubt they use him as sweetener just to dump Devin Harris.

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