McGee #17 wrong Pick look at D.Jordan#35?

[hype_2004]

McGee was the way better pick then, hindsight is 20/20...

Both are very average players though...

Nope, I disagree completely, Javale is poor at what he needs to do(rebound, set screen, hard fouls, box out etc.) while Deandre is is excellent and thriving in his role for his team.

[penbeast0]

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Finally--A center is suppose to be your toughest strongest player on your team. McGee is far far far from that. How many starting Centers is this league can you say that Center is even weaker strength wise than the powerforward?

Actually, through most of NBA history, center was the scorer and help defender. Some were tough guys and some weren't but the place for the geniune thug article was power forward. From Jungle Jim Loscutoff to Bill Bridges to Paul Silas to Maurice Lucas to Buck Williams and on up the line, your enforcer was not your center, who you needed to stay on the court to provide scoring and shotblocking, but your PF who was normally a shorter, more physical, banger type.

On the Bullets championship time, this was Unseld not Hayes and Unseld was listed as a center but if you look at the roles they played, Hayes was the traditional low post scoring, help defender/shot blocker type while Unseld was the dirty work guy.

Admittedly the modern PF position has become a home for many Chris Webber type pussies; but I think Booker has some potential as a tough guy . . . Blatche is just too soft and lazy; he's more of a backup center.

[hands11]

I disagree with some of the logic WD uses, but agree with the conclusion - Javale McGee is not, and is likely never going to become, a legitimate NBA starting center on a contending team.

I agree that he isn't there now, but I'm not ready to concede that he'll never reach that level. I think Camby or Chandler could potentially be a center on a championship team. I see no physical reason why McGee can't be as good, or even better than those guys. He'll need to get stronger, and I think he will as he matures physically.

I think Flip has already disabused McGee of the notion that he some kind of really tall small forward. That was Step One. Flip has gotten McGee to buy into the idea that he must play center if he is going to succeed at this level. With McGee accepting this, I think the next logical step is for McGee to decide that he doesn't like get pushed around by other centers. I think that's setting in too. I expect McGee to add a lot of strength this offseason.

The final step will be for McGee to fully understand that making the boring, fundamentally sound play (like boxing out the opposition so your own small forward can actually grab the defensive board) is better than making the unnecessary highlight reel play. It remains to be seen whether he'll ever truly accept that, but it'll probably get better with maturity.

I lean toward saying McGee will be a really good player. He is still two years away (min) though.

For now... He needs to learn how to set the pick better. He rolls to quickly. First you need to set one pick then you roll from it. That is what will help his teammates.

Second.. McGee has never had a great PG feeding him. Look at Chandler once he got paired with CP3. That was really the beginning for him career.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

McGee was the way better pick then, hindsight is 20/20...

Both are very average players though...

I think they're both not that much above average. I think they are very similar into where they should be rated. Jordan is now overrated with that great cast around him. McGee is in the same boat as Wall. Actually, they're on top of an air raft floating over a cesspool.

Javale isn't as bad as he has looked recently and DeAndre wasn't living in lob city pre-Chris Paul. DeAndre Jordan has monster games and then disappears a long time, just like Javale.

[no D in Hibachi]

CCJ, Chris Paul wasn't feeding Jordan the rock off two missed FT's when he dunked in McGee's grill.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I saw the highlight on one of them. McGee has either checked out mentally, is suffering from fatigue, or is just quitting right now. He had no fight. no D, Javale wasn't the only one who got drubbed yesterday.

He and DeAndre have matched up against one another 7 times. By far, Jordan has won the last two head-2-head meetings. Yet, they've got fairly close numbers and neither guy has dominated the other over 7 games. DeAndre has better numbers only since Blake Griffin came on the scene last season, and Paul this season.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... =mcgeeja01

FWIW, I hated the McGee pick on draft day and very much wanted DeAndre Jordan. I still remember watching video of DeAndre Jordan and thinking that's a guy I hope the Wizards draft. That said, Jordan has underachieved until recently. Makes me think McGee would look a whole lot better next to Anthony Davis or Thomas Robinson (or Pau Gasol, or best of all Ryan Anderson).

[queridiculo]

The thing with Javale doesn't really have anything to do with checking out, he simply doesn't have the toughness, physical or mental, to compete on a consistent basis.

When he gets punched in the mouth he doesn't fight back, he sulks and gets down on himself.

You can see it happen on a consistent basis whenever he goes up against the more physical players in this league. Howard, Chandler, Jordan etc, he gets bullied and he implodes just about every time.

[WizarDynasty]

McGee's mom needs to immediately put her son into boxing training so he can get some toughness.

Players that needs to hire a boxing training immediately so that they can learn leverage and push and shove.

Javale McGee*1000
Nick Young*995
Andre Blatche*400--he has no cardio and doesn't move bodies well

John Wall*10--he isn't a soft but his body isn't strong when someone pushes him.

[keynote]

Acc. to Wizards Extreme (and as reported on Grantland):

http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-trian ... ees-mother

Here's how it goes: Once upon a time (Saturday), the Clippers played the Wizards. The Clippers won by a boatload, but that's not important. There were lots of dunks. So many it's hard to count. But one dunk stood out from all the rest. The Clippers' DeAndre Jordan dunked on JaVale McGee and then, according to Wizards Extreme, HE STARED DOWN MCGEE'S MOM, PAMELA. IN THE CROWD.

@WizardsExtreme
DeAndre Jordan dunked on JaVale McGee and stared RIGHT at Pamela McGee (JaVale's mother) WOW....Talk about disrespect! #WizClippers

Did that really happen!? If McGee can't muster enough gumption to come back at a player that dunked on him - then *glared at his momma*, then I've lost all hope for him growing a (spine/set/insert euphemism for toughness) any time soon.

[Zonkerbl]

That is truly sad. And a punk move by DeAndre Jordan. Have some class, man.

[pancakes3]

hilarious.

[queridiculo]

IIRC, Jordan also gave McGee's salute on at least one occasion...

[keynote]

Has JaVale's momma become the Jackie Christie of today's NBA? Jus' saying.

[hands11]

Just another reason Pam need to stay home and give JaVale some room. I started on this a while ago and then dusted it off at the dunk contest.

I mean what other NBA player gets his mother discussed this much ? It isn't healthy for JaVale. She needs to get out of the way. I mean it is now at the point that everyone knows she is there enough that players are staring her down like she is actually a part of the action. Very dysfunctional.

[pancakes3]

Just another reason Pam need to stay home and give JaVale some room. I started on this a while ago and then dusted it off at the dunk contest.

I mean what other NBA player gets his mother discussed this much ? It isn't healthy for JaVale. She needs to get out of the way. I mean it is now at the point that everyone knows she is there enough that players are staring her down like she is actually a part of the action. Very dysfunctional.

[Chaos Engine]

Just another reason Pam need to stay home and give JaVale some room. I started on this a while ago and then dusted it off at the dunk contest.

I mean what other NBA player gets his mother discussed this much ? It isn't healthy for JaVale. She needs to get out of the way. I mean it is now at the point that everyone knows she is there enough that players are staring her down like she is actually a part of the action. Very dysfunctional.

Doesn't help that his mom is attractive and a lot of players know it. Probably be busting on him all day about it.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Acc. to Wizards Extreme (and as reported on Grantland):

http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-trian ... ees-mother

Here's how it goes: Once upon a time (Saturday), the Clippers played the Wizards. The Clippers won by a boatload, but that's not important. There were lots of dunks. So many it's hard to count. But one dunk stood out from all the rest. The Clippers' DeAndre Jordan dunked on JaVale McGee and then, according to Wizards Extreme, HE STARED DOWN MCGEE'S MOM, PAMELA. IN THE CROWD.

@WizardsExtreme
DeAndre Jordan dunked on JaVale McGee and stared RIGHT at Pamela McGee (JaVale's mother) WOW....Talk about disrespect! #WizClippers

Did that really happen!? If McGee can't muster enough gumption to come back at a player that dunked on him - then *glared at his momma*, then I've lost all hope for him growing a (spine/set/insert euphemism for toughness) any time soon.

DeAndre got punked by Dwight Howard. Jordan is a classic bully who only pounces on what he perceives to be weakness. McGee just needs to stand up to the dude the same way Kevin Love did Scola.

Some guys deserve getting treated dirty.

Even if McGee's mom said something, Javale's got to have her back IMO. My mom's been gone 10 years but just the thought of that pisses me off.