2nd of a Back to Back to Back tank continues. WAS @ BOS 6 PM

[The Fax]

We're the 2nd worst team in the entire league.

[hands11]

Ves, is the anti McGee. All substance. And now they are starting to find him on the alley opps. We will be ok with Ves. McGee as a bench player would have been awesome but it didnt work out that way.

That's a very charitable and somewhat paradoxical characterization of a player whose value is almost entirely tied up in intangibles. Tremendous substance, all of it insubstantial, I'm afraid you've lost me Herr Schrödinger.

I'm sure stats can be dug up to show what Ves is adding. He seems to be rebounding better so I would assume him rebounding rate is on the rise. He defends well so I sure there are start to show he does. And the rest you have to see with your own eyes. The floor diving. The tips to the right player.

Its pretty clear the kid has pretty much the opposite focus from what McGee had. Are you really not seeing that ? Do you remember what McGee looked like out there his first year. Maybe two. He feel over his own feet. He got pushed all over the place.

Ves has a better foundation to build from then McGee did. But McGee is the superior athletic freak. Someone as tall as McGee and with that kind of leaps is a rare thing. But Ves isn't that far off. He is pretty athletic himself.

[dandridge 10]

We're the 2nd worst team in the entire league.

At this point in the season, I wish we were the worst. More ping pong balls.

[Jay81]

All the Wizards need to do is get rid of the knuckleheads around Wall. Get rid of Blatche, Young, McGee and let Wall take over. Then the Wizards will be very good.

Well, the addition of McGee has done wonders for Denver's defense. They've yielded 117, 121 and 115 in McGee's 3 games.

lol

[Ed Wood]

I'm sure stats can be dug up to show what Ves is adding. He seems to be rebounding better so I would assume him rebounding rate is on the rise. He defends well so I sure there are start to show he does. And the rest you have to see with your own eyes. The floor diving. The tips to the right player.

Why, yes, in point of fact there are stats that might make some effort to quantify Vesely's contributions to the team. Consider perhaps net +/- PER 48 minutes, a robust -9.8, worst on the team.

Oh, but +/- is notoriously inconsistent and might need multiple years to normalize and provide dependable data, so consider instead counterpoint PER, of which Vesely can claim a 19.5, which is to say the average player whom he defends is roughly comparable to Pau Gasol for the duration.

But counterpoint PER is imprecise you say, such objective measures of defensive quality aren't so easily obtained. Very well, let us consider his own play. We should instead praise his offensive fecundity, that 8.1 points per 40 minutes, not far behind the prolific Dominic McGuire.

Or, as you alluded to, his laudatory rebounding rate of 12.0, already exceeding that of his spirit animal Jared Jeffries by an entire 0.1!

Its pretty clear the kid has pretty much the opposite focus from what McGee had. Are you really not seeing that ? Do you remember what McGee looked like out there his first year. Maybe two. He feel over his own feet. He got pushed all over the place.

Yes, those are certainly entirely absent from the Jan Vesely experience. At last our long national nightmare is over.

[hands11]

I think I said look to see if his rebound rate was increasing.

Cute post though.

[montestewart]

This roster needs another big. With Blatche and Lewis not playing (and believe me, I'm not complaining about that), McGee and Turiaf traded, and N'Diaye long ago gone, Nene and Cook alone aren't going to fill all those minutes. They should resign N'Diaye or someone who can take some minutes, fouls, and pounding in a pinch. I Guess that's acting as if there might be a plan.

The plan is to play Nene. When they can't, they will play KS and Ves like they did so they can get experience while they get a high draft pick.

That is the plan.

Sure. Bring back Hamady. I don't see that changing the plan.

No problem with the rotation of Nene, Booker, Seraphin, and Vesely for the remainder of the season, and wouldn't mind seeing them try Nene and Seraphin together, but tonight showed why they need depth there. Nene skipping a game (hopefully just one), Booker hobbled and probably in need of a breather himself, and Vesely tall and athletic but not very burly. Another body.

[closg00]

Hamady will be back (Because he is familiar with everyone), or we will bring-in another Center scrub.

[nate33]

Vesely really sucks. There is no other way to say it. He is a really bad basketball player right now and does not deserve minutes in any meaningful game situation on a normal team.

I love his intensity and I've seem some signs of good bball IQ, but that doesn't come close to compensating for his appalling weakness and inability to do anything on offense except dunk. He has a LONG way to go before emerging as a useful NBA role player. It could happen, but I won't hold my breath.

[hands11]

Vesely really sucks. There is no other way to say it. He is a really bad basketball player right now and does not deserve minutes in any meaningful game situation on a normal team.

I love his intensity and I've seem some signs of good bball IQ, but that doesn't come close to compensating for his appalling weakness and inability to do anything on offense except dunk. He has a LONG way to go before emerging as a useful NBA role player. It could happen, but I won't hold my breath.

I'll save a big fat crow for you to eat come next year.

[popper]

I'm sure stats can be dug up to show what Ves is adding. He seems to be rebounding better so I would assume him rebounding rate is on the rise. He defends well so I sure there are start to show he does. And the rest you have to see with your own eyes. The floor diving. The tips to the right player.

Why, yes, in point of fact there are stats that might make some effort to quantify Vesely's contributions to the team. Consider perhaps net +/- PER 48 minutes, a robust -9.8, worst on the team.

Oh, but +/- is notoriously inconsistent and might need multiple years to normalize and provide dependable data, so consider instead counterpoint PER, of which Vesely can claim a 19.5, which is to say the average player whom he defends is roughly comparable to Pau Gasol for the duration.

But counterpoint PER is imprecise you say, such objective measures of defensive quality aren't so easily obtained. Very well, let us consider his own play. We should instead praise his offensive fecundity, that 8.1 points per 40 minutes, not far behind the prolific Dominic McGuire.

Or, as you alluded to, his laudatory rebounding rate of 12.0, already exceeding that of his spirit animal Jared Jeffries by an entire 0.1!

Its pretty clear the kid has pretty much the opposite focus from what McGee had. Are you really not seeing that ? Do you remember what McGee looked like out there his first year. Maybe two. He feel over his own feet. He got pushed all over the place.

Yes, those are certainly entirely absent from the Jan Vesely experience. At last our long national nightmare is over.

Classic and entertaining post. Thx for the humor. I posted before the draft that the Wizards should pick Faried and Shumpert. Of course they did not. Had they done so our rebuild would have been almost complete. EG is incompetent. Big bummer.

[closg00]

Vesely really sucks. There is no other way to say it. He is a really bad basketball player right now and does not deserve minutes in any meaningful game situation on a normal team.

I love his intensity and I've seem some signs of good bball IQ, but that doesn't come close to compensating for his appalling weakness and inability to do anything on offense except dunk. He has a LONG way to go before emerging as a useful NBA role player. It could happen, but I won't hold my breath.

I'll save a big fat crow for you to eat come next year.

I'm placing my bets on you eating the crow Hands. In a re-draft Vesely would be a draft-and-stash 2nd rounder at-best.

[montestewart]

Vesely really sucks. There is no other way to say it. He is a really bad basketball player right now and does not deserve minutes in any meaningful game situation on a normal team.

I love his intensity and I've seem some signs of good bball IQ, but that doesn't come close to compensating for his appalling weakness and inability to do anything on offense except dunk. He has a LONG way to go before emerging as a useful NBA role player. It could happen, but I won't hold my breath.

I'll save a big fat crow for you to eat come next year.

There will be no crow to eat. Vesely does have a long way to go. nate33 said it could happen. He's just not holding his breath. Hedging his bets montestewart style.

[JonathanJoseph]

The most amazing thing is that Wall actually has 5 assists already.

Exhibit 1A in my case that Wall is a player who will put up big numbers on bad teams.

Wall was horrible again.

[hands11]

He said he sucks and then some.

Hedging by saying it could happen means nothing. You can't have it both ways when you come out that strong saying someone sucks.

[The Fax]

We're the 2nd worst team in the entire league.

At this point in the season, I wish we were the worst. More ping pong balls.

I was expecting to be bad this year, but 2nd worst in the league is too much. Bottom 5-8 would have been ideal, but this kind of losing can be troublesome. If i recall, Durant's second year he lead the Thunder to some nice wins in the latter part of the season. Maybe Wall is just 2nd year Westbrook, but I can't see a team lead by Westbrook alone being this bad either. #Concern #Doubts #LifeOfABulletsFan

[DaRealHibachi]

The most amazing thing is that Wall actually has 5 assists already.

Exhibit 1A in my case that Wall is a player who will put up big numbers on bad teams.

Wall was horrible again.

But if he put up truly horrible numbers, you'd be blasting him for that too...

Get a grip dude...

[tontoz]

We're the 2nd worst team in the entire league.

At this point in the season, I wish we were the worst. More ping pong balls.

I was expecting to be bad this year, but 2nd worst in the league is too much. Bottom 5-8 would have been ideal, but this kind of losing can be troublesome. If i recall, Durant's second year he lead the Thunder to some nice wins in the latter part of the season. Maybe Wall is just 2nd year Westbrook, but I can't see a team lead by Westbrook alone being this bad either. #Concern #Doubts #LifeOfABulletsFan

The team got rid of several of their leading scorers from last season (Gil, Hinrich, Thornton, Yi) and this season (Mcgee, young, Blatche). That is a lot of points off the table and it will take awhile to replace them.

The good news is that the team is already showing a much improved defense. Offense comes and goes but defense can be played well every game.

[JonathanJoseph]

The most amazing thing is that Wall actually has 5 assists already.

Exhibit 1A in my case that Wall is a player who will put up big numbers on bad teams.

Wall was horrible again.

But if he put up truly horrible numbers, you'd be blasting him for that too...

Get a grip dude...

FYI his numbers in this game, all told, were horrible.