Thomas Robinson vs. Kevin Seraphin

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Was on another Wizards website today and came across an opinion on power forwards adept at scoring and how they have the biggest impact on the game. Players on current playoff teams such as Zach Randolph, Chris Bosh, and Blake Griffin were mentioned to make a point concerning the success of teams with dominant PF's. The Wizards fan suggested drafting Thomas Robinson with the top pick if missing out on Anthony Davis though understanding the teams' need of perimeter help. My question is why? I take that as well as Kevin Seraphin has played and developed, and as much as his growth is praised there are many who really don't have a great deal of faith in what he could blossom into for the Wizards long-term.

There's no reason for me to believe that Kevin Seraphin couldn't be as productive on offense as a Zach Randolph with increased minutes entering his third year. I'm all for building around what the team currently has in Seraphin and Nene in the paint.

Just wanted to know your thoughts on Thomas Robinson as a Wizard given the teams' situation and the likelihood that Grunfeld uses the top pick on a PF not named Anthony Davis for a third year in a row (which would effectively relegate Seraphin to role player)?

[doclinkin]

On offense Power forwards are useful and important but dependent players. That is, they get the ball only if a ballhandler can get it to them. In the no-hand-check NBA perimeter scorers with slashing ability are often more important. Who is more important to the Celts on offense: KG or Rondo. On LA: Kobe or Pau. In Miami: LeBron and Wade on the perimeter or Udonis down low. Legit playoff caliber teams generally have a good PF with range since this opens up more space for the perimeter attackers, but the old pound-it-inside model has gone the way of laudanum and leeching humours. Yes there is Dirk. But his efficiency actually allowed JJ Barea and JET to get loose. Even the Spurs with Big Timmy won a championship in the early no-hand-check era on the back of TParker.

Is Blake Griffin more important for his team than CP3?

Where Bigs are most important are in two key factors: defensive rebounding and challenging any interior attack. In otherwords: defense. You want intimidating long bigs with good footwork who can cut off lanes and force teams to pull up and shoot from long 2pt range instead of ringing the iron.

I suspect the team is pretty comfortable rolling into the future with their current PF rotation, and all else being equal will be looking first for a perimeter complement to John Wall. MKG, Brad Beal for instance. I'm not 100% sold on ether player as being the best value for pick, but I'm willing to suspend skepticism and trust the high paid scouts who say they are worthy of that top 5 status.

Of the Wiz fall in the lotto and TRob is left, they'll be happy to take him as a high character guy who instantly improves our rebounding and energy. And given Nene's injury history and age there's nothing wrong with having a potential upgrade for say Trevor Booker. Which is no little thing. TBook is a man.

However much as I like TRob personally (if heart overrules head he's my #2 pick, I think he'll never cheat you for effort and love to see the hometown kid back, doing well, reunited with his sister, and helping out in the community) his offense would not be the reason he's selected. Not yet anyway. He'll improve over his career, but he's not a dominant force on offense, nor defense, his primary advanced level skill is that rebounding figure.

[hands11]

On offense Power forwards are useful and important but dependent players. That is, they get the ball only if a ballhandler can get it to them. In the no-hand-check NBA perimeter scorers with slashing ability are often more important. Who is more important to the Celts on offense: KG or Rondo. On LA: Kobe or Pau. In Miami: LeBron and Wade on the perimeter or Udonis down low. Legit playoff caliber teams generally have a good PF with range since this opens up more space for the perimeter attackers, but the old pound-it-inside model has gone the way of laudanum and leeching humours. Yes there is Dirk. But his efficiency actually allowed JJ Barea and JET to get loose. Even the Spurs with Big Timmy won a championship in the early no-hand-check era on the back of TParker.

Is Blake Griffin more important for his team than CP3?

Where Bigs are most important are in two key factors: defensive rebounding and challenging any interior attack. In otherwords: defense. You want intimidating long bigs with good footwork who can cut off lanes and force teams to pull up and shoot from long 2pt range instead of ringing the iron.

I suspect the team is pretty comfortable rolling into the future with their current PF rotation, and all else being equal will be looking first for a perimeter complement to John Wall. MKG, Brad Beal for instance. I'm not 100% sold on ether player as being the best value for pick, but I'm willing to suspend skepticism and trust the high paid scouts who say they are worthy of that top 5 status.

Of the Wiz fall in the lotto and TRob is left, they'll be happy to take him as a high character guy who instantly improves our rebounding and energy. And given Nene's injury history and age there's nothing wrong with having a potential upgrade for say Trevor Booker. Which is no little thing. TBook is a man.

However much as I like TRob personally (if heart overrules head he's my #2 pick, I think he'll never cheat you for effort and love to see the hometown kid back, doing well, reunited with his sister, and helping out in the community) his offense would not be the reason he's selected. Not yet anyway. He'll improve over his career, but he's not a dominant force on offense, nor defense, his primary advanced level skill is that rebounding figure.

A dynamic SF or SG/SF is the key.

PG are important for sure. So are those post players. But it is the PP, Rudy Gay, Durant types that get you over the hump come crunch time. Wade is a strong SG who plays more like a SF. Kobe used to be able to do the same. And what makes OKC extra dangerous is that the have Durant and Harden.

[Higga]

With Nene, Seraphin, and Booker, I think we're okay up front. Obviously I'd take Unibrow #1 but that's the only big guy I'd draft. We have to go SG or SF. Normally I'd say go BAP but we can't afford to have two self checks at SG and SF again.

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With Nene, Seraphin, and Booker, I think we're okay up front. Obviously I'd take Unibrow #1 but that's the only big guy I'd draft. We have to go SG or SF. Normally I'd say go BAP but we can't afford to have two self checks at SG and SF again.

I like what the Wizards have currently but I would still like to add another big man to the roster, just not with this year's top pick. I too think the Wizards need to address the perimeter preferably with Harrison Barnes.

With Nene being 30 years old and Booker having faced injuries in both of his first two seasons I don't think it's too farfetched that the Wizards could pass on perimeter help if Thomas Robinson is sitting there and they miss out on Anthony Davis. I hope they are, but I'm not real convinced the Wizards view Kevin Seraphin as a major building block despite proving to be one of, if not the most efficient Wizards player on offense. He deserves the same patience and opportunity to take up a starting role that was granted to Nick Young, Andray Blatche, and JaVale McGee but not sure it will be given if a more athletic, better rebounding Thomas Robinson is available.

[GUYANNAGRIZZLI]

sign Randy foye Or André Miller , sign Batum if blazzers match sign Dany Green. Try to sign Delfino or gerald green, trade blatch, booker, sf singleton for an average sg, sf like Corey brewer or even better wes matews. Draft one of top 3 big guys. sign experienced and cheap salary Anthony Parker and resign minimum salary Cartier Martin. Pg : wall, foye/Miller, mack. Sg : Crawford, foye/miller can play with Wall, matews/brewer/Delfino/Gérald Green, you have just money for one of them and wes matews seems expensive at 6 millions. Sf : Batum, A Parker , Martin and Brewer CAN also play sf. F/Pf/c : seraphin/Nene/vesely/Davis or Robinson or Drummond and sign singleton. Total salaries around 60 millions with the 13 millions buyout for Lewis.

[GUYANNAGRIZZLI]

sign Randy foye Or André Miller , sign Batum if blazzers match sign Dany Green. Try to sign Delfino or gerald green, trade blatch, booker, sf singleton for an average sg, sf like Corey brewer or even better wes matews. Draft one of top 3 big guys. sign experienced and cheap salary Anthony Parker and resign minimum salary Cartier Martin. Pg : wall, foye/Miller, mack. Sg : Crawford, foye/miller can play with Wall, matews/brewer/Delfino/Gérald Green, you have just money for one of them and wes matews seems expensive at 6 millions. Sf : Batum, A Parker , Martin and Brewer CAN also play sf. F/Pf/c : seraphin/Nene/vesely/Davis or Robinson or Drummond and sign singleton. Total salaries around 60 millions with the 13 millions buyout for Lewis.

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[cleek+wall]

kevin is a beast for an immobile object. He is too big to move off his block and has a smooth shooting touch. Dude reminds me of a young carl malone /ewing

[Benjammin]

kevin is a beast for an immobile object. He is too big to move off his block and has a smooth shooting touch. Dude reminds me of a young carl malone /ewing

A young "Carl" Malone or Ewing? Hm, must be some powerful kool-aide you're imbibing.

[hands11]

Rick Mahorn with offense and a cool accent. Oh and the baby sweet personality. Unless he is playing basketball. Keveen that is.