ImageImageImageImageImage

Player Developement issues. Has EVERY player regressed?

Moderators: montestewart, LyricalRico, nate33

User avatar
Knighthonor
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,865
And1: 98
Joined: Feb 15, 2012

Re: Player Developement issues. Has EVERY player regressed? 

Post#21 » by Knighthonor » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:48 am

quote="nate33"]
TheKingOfVa360 wrote:
Higga wrote:The big thing is Wall. Couldn't care less about the rest, they're pretty much all just role players at best, but by now in his 3rd year Wall should be approaching all-star status at least. He's nowhere near really, he's basically an average, maybe a little above average starting PG but way too often he does dumb things on the court like run into three guys and shoot up a brick.

Hate to say it as I'm still a big Wall fan but it may be best if we cut bait and traded him while he still has some value. He'll probably go on to great things somewhere else but it doesn't look like it'll ever happen here. Rebuild around Brad Beal and hopefully Otto Porter or whoever else we can land in the lotto this year.


If Wall was healthy to start this season, he would be an all-star this year. Not sure why you said he is nowhere near all-star status. His numbers as a rookie were as good as Jrue Holidays stats this year and Holiday made the all-star team. His stats in his 2nd season are better than Paul Georges current stats and he made the all-star team. The key is to win games then the media would hype our players instead of bashing them

Holiday's numbers at the All Star break were a little better than they are now. He was averaging 19.0 points, 8.9 assists, 4.2 rebounds and 4.0 turnovers with a TS% of .512.

In Wall's best season, he averaged 16.3 points, 8.0 assists, 4.5 boards and 3.8 turnovers with a TS% of .502. This year, he is posting 16.9 points, 8.5 assists, and 3.9 rebounds per 36 with a whopping 4.3 turnovers and a ghastly .485 TS%


That proves my point, it isn't a huge difference between a 2nd years Wall stats compared to a 4 year Holidays stats. To say Wall is no where near an all-star level isn't true. If guys like Holiday and Paul George can make the all-star team with similar stats then Wall isn't far from sneaking in on the all-star team just like they did.[/quote]
Wall is Not an all star cause his talent doesn't effect the team. Hence wins...
User avatar
TheKingOfVa360
General Manager
Posts: 8,326
And1: 1,663
Joined: Jun 27, 2006
Location: Orange County, California
         

Re: Player Developement issues. Has EVERY player regressed? 

Post#22 » by TheKingOfVa360 » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:55 am

Knighthonor wrote:Wall is Not an all star cause his talent doesn't effect the team. Hence wins...



Are you sure about that? The Wizards are like 4-30 without Wall and like 15-13 with him this season.

And if your statement were true then Kyrie Irving and Jrue wouldn't be all-stars.
User avatar
nate33
Forum Mod - Wizards
Forum Mod - Wizards
Posts: 70,088
And1: 22,492
Joined: Oct 28, 2002

Re: Player Developement issues. Has EVERY player regressed? 

Post#23 » by nate33 » Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:11 am

Let's not forget that Holiday was a fluke because Rose and Rondo were injured, and D.Williams decided he didn't feel like playing until February.

I suppose you have a point. If Wall plays an entire season healthy, and 3 players among Williams, Irving, Rose, Rondo, George and Wade get hurt, Wall's got a shot.
User avatar
Higga
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,877
And1: 831
Joined: Jan 29, 2007
Location: Tyson's Corner, VA

Re: Player Developement issues. Has EVERY player regressed? 

Post#24 » by Higga » Mon Mar 11, 2013 5:38 pm

Maybe I was harsh on Wall, but those are just fringe all-stars. Being a 1/1 pick, people were putting Wall in Derrick Rose territory. He's nowhere close to that. Not close to Deron Williams, Kyrie Irving, or Rajon Rondo either. Those are the type of players Wall should be on par with by now, not the likes of Jrue **** Holliday.
Eric Maynor is the worst basketball player I've ever seen.

Return to Washington Wizards