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Official Thread - Wizard vs Heat (4/14/14)

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Re: Official Thread - Wizard vs Heat (4/14/14) 

Post#161 » by JWizmentality » Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:39 am

Jay81 wrote:anyone for resigning Nick young in the offseason? I cant believe we only got a 2nd round pick for him when we traded him. Not that he is a great player but he is a legit NBA rotation guy


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Re: Official Thread - Wizard vs Heat (4/14/14) 

Post#162 » by Brenice » Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:20 pm

doclinkin wrote:Me I want MIami. Feel like we match up well with their few weaknesses. Our PG and interior size are a mismatch in our favor, and LeBron is great but Ariza can make him work harder. Plus I like the high profile and spotlight if we acquit ourselves well, win or lose it could be a fun series.


The Wiz don't stand a chance against Miami playing 5 on 8.
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Re: Official Thread - Wizard vs Heat (4/14/14) 

Post#163 » by Dat2U » Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:30 pm

doclinkin wrote:Me I want MIami. Feel like we match up well with their few weaknesses. Our PG and interior size are a mismatch in our favor, and LeBron is great but Ariza can make him work harder. Plus I like the high profile and spotlight if we acquit ourselves well, win or lose it could be a fun series.



Well I think we don't match up particularly well with anyone so why not go down fighting against the Champs. We might even get a nationally televised game on a Sunday afternoon lol.

To be honest, I think we'd steal one game, whether it's game 3 or 4. I think we'd probably sh*t the bed the first two games in Miami.
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Re: Official Thread - Wizard vs Heat (4/14/14) 

Post#164 » by Higga » Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:42 pm

Was at the game last night, got cheap tickets from my work. Figured we'd win with Lebron out. He dodgin us. :D (j/k of course)

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Re: Official Thread - Wizard vs Heat (4/14/14) 

Post#165 » by FAH1223 » Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:44 pm

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Well I think we don't match up particularly well with anyone so why not go down fighting against the Champs. We might even get a nationally televised game on a Sunday afternoon lol.

To be honest, I think we'd steal one game, whether it's game 3 or 4. I think we'd probably sh*t the bed the first two games in Miami.


If they pounded the ball inside and won the rebounding battle, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Wizards push it the distance.

That Heat team leaves shooters wide open with or without LeBron/Bosh. Their defense of trapping leaves those angles for you to get great shots on the wings and swinging the ball inside.

The Wizards would probably turn it over a bunch to negate that though and MIA is the best at converting points off turnovers...
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Re: Official Thread - Wizard vs Heat (4/14/14) 

Post#166 » by Dat2U » Tue Apr 15, 2014 3:01 pm

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Well I think we don't match up particularly well with anyone so why not go down fighting against the Champs. We might even get a nationally televised game on a Sunday afternoon lol.

To be honest, I think we'd steal one game, whether it's game 3 or 4. I think we'd probably sh*t the bed the first two games in Miami.


If they pounded the ball inside and won the rebounding battle, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Wizards push it the distance.

That Heat team leaves shooters wide open with or without LeBron/Bosh. Their defense of trapping leaves those angles for you to get great shots on the wings and swinging the ball inside.

The Wizards would probably turn it over a bunch to negate that though and MIA is the best at converting points off turnovers...


I don't see it. Miami isn't defending the perimeter very well because they haven't been motivated to do so. At their best, the perimeter defense is a catalyst because of their physical and aggressive approach. So far this season, they appear to be just going through the motions. Maybe the light won't switch on and the Heat will be in trouble, but more likely, the Heat will lock in at some point (most likely 4th quarters of these games) and will be able to successfully close out a team like us or the Bobcats in 4 or 5.
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Re: Official Thread - Wizard vs Heat (4/14/14) 

Post#167 » by FAH1223 » Tue Apr 15, 2014 3:10 pm

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I don't see it. Miami isn't defending the perimeter very well because they haven't been motivated to do so. At their best, the perimeter defense is a catalyst because of their physical and aggressive approach. So far this season, they appear to be just going through the motions. Maybe the light won't switch on and the Heat will be in trouble, but more likely, the Heat will lock in at some point (most likely 4th quarters of these games) and will be able to successfully close out a team like us or the Bobcats in 4 or 5.


It remains to be seen but their defense isn't as good as last year. I haven't really seen them lock in that much this season, they'll do it in tiny spurts at home but they've had a lot of duds on the road. They give up a lot in the paint and they flat out do not rebound the ball.

LeBron also isn't as good defensively this year as he was the last two seasons. The eye test shows it with him getting blown by quite a bit and he also hasn't gotten a lot of those chase downs as well. The advanced stats also show a drop off.

I think everyone is expecting them to turn it on but the last couple months really do not inspire much confidence IMO. They've had plenty of time to get it fixed and they're still a notch or two below the past couple of seasons.

Ther most dominating defensive game this year was at OKC. But OKC isn't much of a test for them since Brooks still doesn't know how to adjust since the 2012 Finals vs. them. If that's a rematch again this year, the Heat SHOULD win unless Brooks finally wisens up and lets some of those athletes he has on the floor to defend the Heat's shooters and make life more difficult for them instead of playing Fisher/Perkins/Caron

If they play the Spurs again, the Heat will lose in 5 or 6 games.
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Re: Official Thread - Wizard vs Heat (4/14/14) 

Post#168 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Apr 15, 2014 3:11 pm

doclinkin wrote:
dlts20 wrote:
doclinkin wrote:Me I want MIami. Feel like we match up well with their few weaknesses. Our PG and interior size are a mismatch in our favor, and LeBron is great but Ariza can make him work harder. Plus I like the high profile and spotlight if we acquit ourselves well, win or lose it could be a fun series.

so what do you mean? you want them now in round 1 or you just like them being on our side of the bracket so we face them in round 2?


I want them whenever. I want to stun them and beat the piss outta them. I want to shock the world. If we lose to them no shame they're the defending champs, but with our size up front and Nene's decent defense roaming outside of the paint combine with Gortat underneath I feel like we have the personnel to frustrate LeBron and forcing them to rely on Bosh to beat us with jumpers. He can do that, he has in fact done that, but the secret fact of LeBJ is he's a bully, he does not like to get challenged on the interior, beaten up, pushed around, and I feel like adding nothing-to-lose vets like Dr Feelgooden and Harrington works to our advantage.

We saw today and it has been shown in the past how little depth the team has behind LeBJ. They outclass us in overall talent. We beat them at PG and the frontcourt (unless LeBJ is at PF). Spoelstra is a notch above Wittman, maybe, but he's no Tom Tippytoe. I feel like legitimately, if all is clicking and they get a little dinged up we could take 'em. They are vulnerable. I got an in-the-bones certainty they are not the champions this year, they will get picked off along the line and LeBJ will start looking around halfway through one tough series thinking about where he's going next etc etc. You've seen him quit before when he gets tested or distracted.

But mostly I would relish the competitive rage I could work up for that team. Would love it. Enjoy either being the villain or battling the villain. Win or lose it would be gratifying to bloody them and make them hear footsteps. I know this board could have fun with it. This city would get charged up for it. This team -- they've shown they will sometimes take lightly an opponent -- for the Miami LeBJ's though, I know they would come out the gate steely-eyed and grim, ready to prove doubters wrong who say they have no chance.

That's who I want. I want the Heat. Want to sink my teeth into that series and get righteous and fired up with a cleansing fire like an exorcism. Heat is an anagram of Hate. That to me is the fun of this sport, this substitute for war, to really really enjoy detesting your opponent, and then, maybe, beat them. For that team I'm already fired up, it would be supremely satisfying to take out my frustrations on them. The Heat.

Sure let me get them in the 2nd round if I have to, but them's the cats this dog wants to chase.
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Re: Official Thread - Wizard vs Heat (4/14/14) 

Post#169 » by Dat2U » Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:56 pm

FAH1223 wrote:
Dat2U wrote:
I don't see it. Miami isn't defending the perimeter very well because they haven't been motivated to do so. At their best, the perimeter defense is a catalyst because of their physical and aggressive approach. So far this season, they appear to be just going through the motions. Maybe the light won't switch on and the Heat will be in trouble, but more likely, the Heat will lock in at some point (most likely 4th quarters of these games) and will be able to successfully close out a team like us or the Bobcats in 4 or 5.


It remains to be seen but their defense isn't as good as last year. I haven't really seen them lock in that much this season, they'll do it in tiny spurts at home but they've had a lot of duds on the road. They give up a lot in the paint and they flat out do not rebound the ball.

LeBron also isn't as good defensively this year as he was the last two seasons. The eye test shows it with him getting blown by quite a bit and he also hasn't gotten a lot of those chase downs as well. The advanced stats also show a drop off.

I think everyone is expecting them to turn it on but the last couple months really do not inspire much confidence IMO. They've had plenty of time to get it fixed and they're still a notch or two below the past couple of seasons.

Ther most dominating defensive game this year was at OKC. But OKC isn't much of a test for them since Brooks still doesn't know how to adjust since the 2012 Finals vs. them. If that's a rematch again this year, the Heat SHOULD win unless Brooks finally wisens up and lets some of those athletes he has on the floor to defend the Heat's shooters and make life more difficult for them instead of playing Fisher/Perkins/Caron

If they play the Spurs again, the Heat will lose in 5 or 6 games.


You may be right about the Heat losing to the Spurs this time around. But I wouldn't get too caught up with how they've played in the regular season. This is the 2-time defending champions. They are bored by the regular season. Hell, they may be bored by the potential 1st round match up. But Miami operating at 70 or 80% is still likely good enough to dispose of the Wizards or Bobcats in 4 or 5 games. Where their slippage will likely hurt them is against other elite teams. We don't have the talent, experience, coaching, or mental toughness to be anything other than a nuisance to elite teams like the Heat. If we do end up facing Miami, I expect they'll let us hang around till the end of games where they'll close us out. I can definitely see us winning a game. Maybe two if we get a good break.

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