Wittman & Shepherd in Poland, in talks with Gortat

[Ruzious]

That seems like a huge chunk of money for Gortat to sign for. Plus there are no sale taxes in Florida.

The state tax issue is also overblown.

Let's assume that we offer $11M. The state income tax in DC is 8.5%. It is only owed for 41 games, or half the season. If Gortat played in Miami, he would not owe income tax on those 41 games, but he would owe income tax on two extra road games in Washington. So effectively, the income tax disparity covers 39 games of an 82 game season. Gortat would pay an extra 4.04% in income taxes if stayed in DC. That's $430,000 out of $11M. Also you have to factor that Florida is going to have higher sales taxes, property taxes and fees to partially offset their revenue lost by not having income taxes. In reality, that 8.5% differential in income taxes is probably more like 5% net. So that $430,000 is really more like $260,000. It's not that big of a deal. If Miami offers $10M, we can offer $10.3M and offset the tax disparity.

He also wouldn't owe taxes on the 4 games against Orlando and the 6 games played in Texas.

And there are easy ways to decrease the state tax even further.

[nate33]

He also wouldn't owe taxes on the 4 games against Orlando and the 6 games played in Texas.

Irrelevant. He would be getting that same advantage whether he played in Miami or DC. I'm focusing only on the difference between Miami and DC. That difference is 39 games.

[Ruzious]

He also wouldn't owe taxes on the 4 games against Orlando and the 6 games played in Texas.

Irrelevant. He would be getting that same advantage whether he played in Miami or DC. I'm focusing only on the difference between Miami and DC. That difference is 39 games.

Actually, if he joined the Wiz and lived in the DC area, he would get taxed on the games against FL and TX teams. You get taxed in your home state and then generally get a credit in your home state for taxes paid to other states. Since TX & FL don't tax you, there's no credit on your home state return.

[Nivek]

Our defense would suffer...badly.

I really can't believe people are comparing the two. Forget the numbers. Hawes can't defend me and he's allergic to the paint. Offensively he's probably a tad better than Marc. I don't want him as my starting five. Rather as a backup 4-5. Plus the intangibles that Gortat brings. They have nothing to do with metrics.

Why would we forget the numbers? The numbers show that Gortat is significantly more productive than Hawes.

[montestewart]

Our defense would suffer...badly.

I really can't believe people are comparing the two. Forget the numbers. Hawes can't defend me and he's allergic to the paint. Offensively he's probably a tad better than Marc. I don't want him as my starting five. Rather as a backup 4-5. Plus the intangibles that Gortat brings. They have nothing to do with metrics.

Why would we forget the numbers? The numbers show that Gortat is significantly more productive than Hawes.

YOET (Ye Olde Eye Test) frequently agrees with the numbers.

[stevemcqueen1]

What's the rule about having only two five year deals on your roster?

[verbal8]

What's the rule about having only two five year deals on your roster?

The only restriction is on 5-year rookie extensions. So with Wall on the roster the Wizards can not offer one to Beal and they can only acquire one player on a 5-year rookie extension.

It means the Wizards could only add Paul George, Blake Griffin or James Harden on their current contracts.

I am not too concerned about Beal. What it means he either has to take the 4 year extension or wait and get new 5 year contract(which only the Wizards could offer).

[stevemcqueen1]

What's the rule about having only two five year deals on your roster?

The only restriction is on 5-year rookie extensions. So with Wall on the roster the Wizards can not offer one to Beal and they can only acquire one player on a 5-year rookie extension.

It means the Wizards could only add Paul George, Blake Griffin or James Harden on their current contracts.

I am not too concerned about Beal. What it means he either has to take the 4 year extension or wait and get new 5 year contract(which only the Wizards could offer).

Thanks for clearing that up. So the only way Beal can get a 5 year extension at the end of his rookie deal is if we trade Wall?

[verbal8]

What's the rule about having only two five year deals on your roster?

The only restriction is on 5-year rookie extensions. So with Wall on the roster the Wizards can not offer one to Beal and they can only acquire one player on a 5-year rookie extension.

It means the Wizards could only add Paul George, Blake Griffin or James Harden on their current contracts.

I am not too concerned about Beal. What it means he either has to take the 4 year extension or wait and get new 5 year contract(which only the Wizards could offer).

Thanks for clearing that up. So the only way Beal can get a 5 year extension at the end of his rookie deal is if we trade Wall?

For an extension that is correct correct. Assuming Wall is retained, in the summer of 2015 Beal can sign a 4 year extension. The extension would kick in for the 2017-8 season.

If he goes into the 2016-7 offseason without an extension, he can get a new 5 year contract via Bird Rights. If Wizard want to ensure a 5 year deal they can essentially do so with a Maximum Qualifying Offer.

[miller31time]

Would it be the worst thing in the world to let Gortat walk and sign Spencer Hawes? He'd be half the cost, is a near double-double per-36 minutes, spreads the floor exceptionally well and would be a great fit with John Wall. He posted a PER of over 16 with the Cavs last season and is a pretty good passing big man to boot.

I'm not saying he's better than Gortat - he's not. But he's a better fit and if Marcin is commanding 13mil per year, I think I may rather sign Hawes for a MLE-sized deal.

Hawes can't defend an ant on the floor. He is brutal defensively.

Oh I know. If he was a good or even average defender, his price tag would be right up there with Gortat's. But there's a reason he's available for 5-6mil. Still a bargain if you ask me.

[NiGhtWiSh]

LOL

http://dimemag.com/2014/07/marcin-gorta ... un-turret/