Game Thread: Wizards at Milwaukee - 3/7/15 8:30

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

For the season, Wall's +/- is +16.5. Sessions first 8 games with the Wiz was -23.2, and with Sacramento, he was -10.6. I don't care how badly Wall was playing on any given night and how well Sessions played on any given night - you don't EVER play Sessions over Wall down the stretch of a tight game.

You do consider both Wall and Sessions and a good coach could leave Sessions in as long as the Wizards are tied and ahead.

You usually eventually own up to it when you've been wrong over the years, but you still haven't done that with Sessions. We've had how many discussions about him over the years? Almost every time, you use as evidence 1 or 2 stellar games that he had as a rookie. He's not a rookie anymore. He's a poor shooter. Using him and Wall together gives you 2 guards who don't shoot well from outside - causing a spacing problem. And Sessions clearly doesn't give you defense, so there's no reason to play him with Wall. At least Temple - who's only a marginal NBA player himself - plays defense.

You are talking absolutes. No reason to EVER play them together? Wall hit two three pointers to start the rally in the third. Otherwise, he shot 1-13 FG. Sessions played effectively last night.

Ruzious, I said Miller has had a better year than Sessions when the trade happened. I said Sessions has trended down for years. I did notice, however, as recently as last season he played several good games. His peak year was his rookie year, but sporadically he's played good games. Fans of other teams, one Laker fan I recall, mentioned Sessions played well when they got to the playoffs. Nivek posted Sessions might be able to play well still.

You want me to admit being wrong about Sessions after Sessions had a decent game?

[Dark Faze]

The time is ticking with him, he needs to go.

You guys need to miss the playoffs so the owner is finally forced to can Grunfeld. Nothing gets better for the Wizards until he's gone and a new GM is brought in with full power.

Five years from now Bill Simmons will do a "30 for 30" on Grunfeld after it is pointed out that he's been a GM in the league longer than Elgin Baylor with the same track record of mediocrity everywhere he goes.

Yeah, that's the sad truth that most of us here get- if we could, we'd divorce ourselves of this team, and maybe come back only if we see the headlines reading "Grunfeld and Wizards agree to part ways"- which I guess is how this is phrased these days.

Unfortunately a lot of us are lifers that can't do that- I find myself wishing for the Webber Howard days like some forlorn housewife in a bad marriage pining for that lost spark that flickered out 20 years ago.

And Ted Leonsis really doesn't look like the guy that's going to get it back- seriously, how would things have been different if Abe was still around? The only thing I can think of is that the League probably wouldn't have given us John Wall.

The frustrating thing about Ted is that all of his failings are basically due to him being a soft excuse for a man. He's holding this franchise hostage because he's afraid to hurt the feelings of people who have failed him.

[closg00]

+1 Dark Faze, a stronger business man would have fired Ernie long-ago. That and Ernie is a master politician who knows how to blame-shift all team ills/weakness's, onto the coach.

[Ruzious]

You do consider both Wall and Sessions and a good coach could leave Sessions in as long as the Wizards are tied and ahead.

You usually eventually own up to it when you've been wrong over the years, but you still haven't done that with Sessions. We've had how many discussions about him over the years? Almost every time, you use as evidence 1 or 2 stellar games that he had as a rookie. He's not a rookie anymore. He's a poor shooter. Using him and Wall together gives you 2 guards who don't shoot well from outside - causing a spacing problem. And Sessions clearly doesn't give you defense, so there's no reason to play him with Wall. At least Temple - who's only a marginal NBA player himself - plays defense.

You are talking absolutes. No reason to EVER play them together? Wall hit two three pointers to start the rally in the third. Otherwise, he shot 1-13 FG. Sessions played effectively last night.

Ruzious, I said Miller has had a better year than Sessions when the trade happened. I said Sessions has trended down for years. I did notice, however, as recently as last season he played several good games. His peak year was his rookie year, but sporadically he's played good games. Fans of other teams, one Laker fan I recall, mentioned Sessions played well when they got to the playoffs. Nivek posted Sessions might be able to play well still.

You want me to admit being wrong about Sessions after Sessions had a decent game?

There you go again - pointing to 1 game - when his other 8 games with the Wiz were awful - and his 30 some games with Sacramento were mostly awful. I just have to laugh. Year after year, we've had this debate about him, and you've fought me every time - going back to when you wanted to trade Wall and bring in Sessions as his replacement. So yeah, it'd be nice to get some closure on this.

I think Nivek pointed out that just because a player has made a few shots in a row, there's no evidence that his next few shots are more likely to go in than his normal percentage. Using that info, there's no reason to think Sessions wouldn't have reverted to his norm if left in - especially playing off the ball with Wall and no spacing.

[closg00]

Having Sessions on our team compounds our weakness, neither Ramon or John are scorer/shooters. Sessions has been pretty bad, a non-factor mostly.

[dckingsfan]

I really hated this loss... still doesn't sit right.

[GhostsOfGil]

I'm glad I didn't watch the second half. I got sucked into the Sixers Atlanta game. Noel is making Ernie and ted look foolish once again. 11/17/5/1

[Kanyewest]

The Wizards were due for a loss against the Bucks just because the Wizards were able to sneak away some wins earlier in the season. I was actually surprised that the Wizards kept it close down the stretch- but the missed free throws hurt and something seems wrong with Wall's jumper- hopefully he can fix it when it comes down to the postseason.

[Earth2Ted]

The frustrating thing about Ted is that all of his failings are basically due to him being a soft excuse for a man. He's holding this franchise hostage because he's afraid to hurt the feelings of people who have failed him.

Where's dan Snyder when you need him? I always felt his shtick would play much better in the nba. Sign the top free agent superstar. Hire Phil Jackson George Karl or whoever the high profile gm and coaches are. And if they bomb - fire their butts and bring in the next guys.

[Ruzious]

I'm glad I didn't watch the second half. I got sucked into the Sixers Atlanta game. Noel is making Ernie and ted look foolish once again. 11/17/5/1

Ouch. And at least half of our board would have picked Nerlens. Porter's still going to be solid, but... ouch. Nice game by Philly.

[montestewart]

Key positive takeaway from this loss: Garrett Temple getting some valuable burn.

[SUPERBALLMAN]

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Having Sessions on our team compounds our weakness, neither Ramon or John are scorer/shooters. Sessions has been pretty bad, a non-factor mostly.

They should've kept The Professor.

[nuposse04]

Key positive takeaway from this loss: Garrett Temple getting some valuable burn.

Gonna need his solid veteran presence moving forward for sure

[Tricky_Kid]

I'd like to do a GT ASAP the Wittless will be fired. I book it!

[AFM]

I'm glad I didn't watch the second half. I got sucked into the Sixers Atlanta game. Noel is making Ernie and ted look foolish once again. 11/17/5/1

To be fair, who would have guessed that the number one ranked prospect in the entire country would end up a decent NBA player? There's a lot of guesswork involved in the draft.

[FAH1223]

The same folks who are crying about Ariza now and before the season weren't saying a damn thing up until February when we hit the skids. This more to do with Witt's coaching and Ernie's roster building and unwillingness to make a serious deadline move such as trading for IT. Or signing a wing for that 15th spot. Ariza is not the issue... running Rasual Butler out for 30+ minutes is.

Pierce has not been a savior as you said he would be. Ariza has been missed.

Butler was on fire to start the season. Playing cold Butler 30 minutes sure doesn't help. The idea of lottery pick Porter playing less than Butler is distressing.

Pierce wasn't supposed to be the savior. He was supposed to be a piece and his play since the All-Star break has been pretty good.

The problem is, we have no other wing players who can create, defend, and shoot at a reasonably high level.

Otto is supposed to be it but Wittman didn't play him enough in the early going to not only get his confidence up but to also let him play through mistakes.

Not signing another wing when they cut Rice is also a mistake that is typical lazy EG.

[gambitx777]

The same folks who are crying about Ariza now and before the season weren't saying a damn thing up until February when we hit the skids. This more to do with Witt's coaching and Ernie's roster building and unwillingness to make a serious deadline move such as trading for IT. Or signing a wing for that 15th spot. Ariza is not the issue... running Rasual Butler out for 30+ minutes is.

100% agreed ! long term, as in now, Damion James might have been the better option. Just because of age,

if you switch our front office and HC with the bucks, I guarantee you that Webster would have been bought out or traded. gooden would be gone and so would Butler. Kevin might still be here but there is a good chance he would have been traded. We need a spark off the bench and I don't understand why the team won't go get one. Seth Curry is out there, and there are plenty of 3 pt shooters in china!