WOJ Bomb: Wizards trade Miller for Sessions

[closg00]

Didn't Jan Vesely almost get a double-double one night? +1 to what Dat wrote.


#FireErnie ~ Because he believed Stephen Curry couldn't help us and Jan Vesely could.

[Kanyewest]

Didn't Jan Vesely almost get a double-double one night? +1 to what Dat wrote.


#FireErnie ~ Because he believed Stephen Curry couldn't help us and Jan Vesely could.

Sessions has been in the league 11 years and counting so Sessions has an advantage on Vesley there.

[dobrojim]

Vesely's peak was an 8-8 FG game he had vs CHA at the end of one season when both teams were
playing out the string. He probably scored in double figures fewer than 20 times in the 3 years
(was it 3?) that he was in the league. Probably got dub figures in rebounds at an equally miniscule
rate as well. Yeah, Sessions has had a better career than Jan which is an exceedingly low bar.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Whoever coaches shooting has been really doing work for years. Not only did guys like Webster and Ariza have career years from 3 but even spot bench players like Butler, Temple, Gooden and now Sessions have shown improvement.

When Sessions first came to the Wizards I posted about his strange career. Very early in his career he posted a 24 assist game. He's had a 20/20 game with points and assists. He's scored over 40. He's had a triple double.

Sessions is not a player who depends on Wall.

I think the 40 pt game & 20/20 game are more attributable to the lack of defense played in the NBA at times than being an indicator to Sessions true talent level. Sessions may not be dependent on any player to maintain an NBA job but he's likely dependent on being in the absolute perfect situation to provide any useful utility for a team. Maybe this is it... maybe it's just a hot stretch .

That's exactly how I feel about Sessions.

The second round will tell more about Sessions. I think he's going to be a plus for the Wizards.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Didn't Jan Vesely almost get a double-double one night? +1 to what Dat wrote.


#FireErnie ~ Because he believed Stephen Curry couldn't help us and Jan Vesely could.

Sessions has been in the league 11 years and counting so Sessions has an advantage on Vesley there.

Not quite that long. He was on Javale McGee's Nevada team. I believe he came out one season before McGee.

Yeah, he was drafted in 2008. Sessions turned 29 a couple weeks ago.

I remember seeing him live in college when Nevada played Hawaii. I am shocked that it's been seven years!

[Kanyewest]

Didn't Jan Vesely almost get a double-double one night? +1 to what Dat wrote.


#FireErnie ~ Because he believed Stephen Curry couldn't help us and Jan Vesely could.

Sessions has been in the league 11 years and counting so Sessions has an advantage on Vesley there.

Not quite that long. He was on Javale McGee's Nevada team. I believe he came out one season before McGee.

Yeah, he was drafted in 2008. Sessions turned 29 a couple weeks ago.

I remember seeing him live in college when Nevada played Hawaii. I am shocked that it's been seven years!

Whoops - he's been on a lot of teams.

[hands11]

Vesely's peak was an 8-8 FG game he had vs CHA at the end of one season when both teams were
playing out the string. He probably scored in double figures fewer than 20 times in the 3 years
(was it 3?) that he was in the league. Probably got dub figures in rebounds at an equally miniscule
rate as well. Yeah, Sessions has had a better career than Jan which is an exceedingly low bar.

Here are some more stats for those interested

Here averaged 8 and 8 over 10 gameas and the Wizards went on a 8-2 run to finish that first year.

He twice posted 11 pts and 11 games over 4 games in that run.

also 16pts and 6 and 6pts 12 rebounds and 11 pts 8 rebounds down the stretch

He had 10 double digit pts that year. 5 double digit rebounds over 57 game with 20 starts.

His first game was 2012-01-08 because of injury and the strike

He got a few starts midway through the season but down the stretch, he started every game from 2012-04-01 till the end.

He started 4 games the following year but they had Nene and Okafor at that point. His min went from 19 to 12. That was the year Beal was added and Wall was injured until January. That was the no PG year. Price, Mack, Pargo (7 games), Livingston for 17, Temple some. Crawford some. That year was so FUBR.

Not only no Wall for a good chunk, but no PG. And once Wall was there, Ves wasn't playing in his line ups anymore.

That was a lot that went into Ves not working out. Culture. Expectations and pressure of being #6. Team direction once they added Nene, Okafor and TA. Coaching. Ves being a kid. His crappy FT shooting. Its all snowballed the wrong direction.

Had he been picked lower and to a team that was going to build with a starting spot available to him for at least two years, he could have made the transition better and stuck around. At team like ORL, PHX, or MIL might have been better for him.

[hands11]

When Sessions first came to the Wizards I posted about his strange career. Very early in his career he posted a 24 assist game. He's had a 20/20 game with points and assists. He's scored over 40. He's had a triple double.

Sessions is not a player who depends on Wall.

I think the 40 pt game & 20/20 game are more attributable to the lack of defense played in the NBA at times than being an indicator to Sessions true talent level. Sessions may not be dependent on any player to maintain an NBA job but he's likely dependent on being in the absolute perfect situation to provide any useful utility for a team. Maybe this is it... maybe it's just a hot stretch .

That's exactly how I feel about Sessions.

The second round will tell more about Sessions. I think he's going to be a plus for the Wizards.

The 3 ball is so key. If he can hit that, he can really help in spot minutes.

[nate33]

Over the past 20 games, Ramon Sessions has averaged the following per 36 minutes:

14.3 points
5.1 assists
4.8 rebounds
0.9 steals
1.8 turnovers
.592 TS%
116 ORtg

He actually played 22 minutes a game.

[closg00]

Fine, I'll link the stats here as-well.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fanc ... s-absence/

[Ruzious]

When Sessions first came to the Wizards I posted about his strange career. Very early in his career he posted a 24 assist game. He's had a 20/20 game with points and assists. He's scored over 40. He's had a triple double.

Sessions is not a player who depends on Wall.

I think the 40 pt game & 20/20 game are more attributable to the lack of defense played in the NBA at times than being an indicator to Sessions true talent level. Sessions may not be dependent on any player to maintain an NBA job but he's likely dependent on being in the absolute perfect situation to provide any useful utility for a team. Maybe this is it... maybe it's just a hot stretch .

That's exactly how I feel about Sessions.

The second round will tell more about Sessions. I think he's going to be a plus for the Wizards.

Me too. Are you happy now? He's doing a very nice job - playing very smart - focusing on taking it to the rim or setting up for his new-found 3 point shot. He's a nice backup.

And Bynum is one of those guys who can get hot for a game or 2 now and then. Who knows - the Wiz could at least keep the series competitive, and if Teague re-twists his ankle, anything's possible.

[Dat2U]

Vesely's peak was an 8-8 FG game he had vs CHA at the end of one season when both teams were
playing out the string. He probably scored in double figures fewer than 20 times in the 3 years
(was it 3?) that he was in the league. Probably got dub figures in rebounds at an equally miniscule
rate as well. Yeah, Sessions has had a better career than Jan which is an exceedingly low bar.

Here are some more stats for those interested

Here averaged 8 and 8 over 10 gameas and the Wizards went on a 8-2 run to finish that first year.

He twice posted 11 pts and 11 games over 4 games in that run.

also 16pts and 6 and 6pts 12 rebounds and 11 pts 8 rebounds down the stretch

He had 10 double digit pts that year. 5 double digit rebounds over 57 game with 20 starts.

His first game was 2012-01-08 because of injury and the strike

He got a few starts midway through the season but down the stretch, he started every game from 2012-04-01 till the end.

He started 4 games the following year but they had Nene and Okafor at that point. His min went from 19 to 12. That was the year Beal was added and Wall was injured until January. That was the no PG year. Price, Mack, Pargo (7 games), Livingston for 17, Temple some. Crawford some. That year was so FUBR.

Not only no Wall for a good chunk, but no PG. And once Wall was there, Ves wasn't playing in his line ups anymore.

That was a lot that went into Ves not working out. Culture. Expectations and pressure of being #6. Team direction once they added Nene, Okafor and TA. Coaching. Ves being a kid. His crappy FT shooting. Its all snowballed the wrong direction.

Had he been picked lower and to a team that was going to build with a starting spot available to him for at least two years, he could have made the transition better and stuck around. At team like ORL, PHX, or MIL might have been better for him.

No, no one was interested in Jan Vesely stats in a Miller for Sessions thread but thanks.

[closg00]

Agree about Bynum, Randy needs to open his vise-grip mind and get creative with what we have, not tightened-up more. I hope in practice that they are experimenting with Bynum and Sessions and different line-up combos that might throw ATL off. I suspect that Randy won't surprise ATL with anything.


#FireErnie ~ Because he believed Stephen Curry couldn't help us and Jan Vesely could.

[tontoz]

Sessions isnt going to look good relative to Wall, who started in the All-Star game. But Sessions looks pretty good (at least for the last few weeks) relative to Wall's previous backups.

[LyricalRico]

Agree about Bynum, Randy needs to open his vise-grip mind and get creative with what we have, not tightened-up more. I hope in practice that they are experimenting with Bynum and Sessions and different line-up combos that might throw ATL off. I suspect that Randy won't surprise ATL with anything.

Agreed. There are options available, just a question of whether Randy will use them.