Drew Gooden Appreciation Thread

[TheSecretWeapon]

I agree with nate. I'd be willing to bring back Gooden on a one-year deal at a modest price.

Can we stop the circle jerk around here at some point ?

As for Gooden. You aren't likely to get him for one year at a modest price. Whatever that means.

Min is more likely a two years with a player option at 3-4 M.

Welcome back to my ignore list, asshat.

[dckingsfan]

I agree with nate. I'd be willing to bring back Gooden on a one-year deal at a modest price.

It was interesting that no teams offered him a larger contract for the last two years. There is a reason for that...

- he is viewed as old
- he is viewed as a backup

But I would think that someone would now offer him the bi-annual. I really don't think he is going to get the full MLE from anyone - but I could be wrong. And at 34 - I don't think anyone offers him more than a 2 year deal.

I would personally love to see Humphries move to the 3 point line and keep Gooden
PF: Humphries/Gooden
C: Gortat/Nene

Don't think that Wittman would do that though - and I don't think that Nene wants to play C...

[TheSecretWeapon]

I agree with nate. I'd be willing to bring back Gooden on a one-year deal at a modest price.

It was interesting that no teams offered him a larger contract for the last two years. There is a reason for that...

- he is viewed as old
- he is viewed as a backup

But I would think that someone would now offer him the bi-annual. I really don't think he is going to get the full MLE from anyone - but I could be wrong. And at 34 - I don't think anyone offers him more than a 2 year deal.

I would personally love to see Humphries move to the 3 point line and keep Gooden
PF: Humphries/Gooden
C: Gortat/Nene

Don't think that Wittman would do that though - and I don't think that Nene wants to play C...

He was also viewed as a locker room problem. Really, the only place he's been where he hasn't been considered a problem was here in DC. Just a guess, but getting released by Milwaukee and then having zero interest from the league in hiring him (until the Wizards came calling in desperation) may have helped him change his ways.

I concur with your hope that Humphries can/will move back to the 3pt line. He's been a good jump shooter on mid-to-long range 2s throughout his career. Surely he's strong enough to shoot the three. If he can shoot 40% on long twos (he's at .407 for his career), it seems likely he could shoot at least 30% from three. Which would be a net plus.

[hands11]

dc..

It didn't matter for the most part before. He was getting Dray money from MIL

And because the WIZ were the ones that gave him a shot after he was not getting calls, he rewarded them by sticking around.
Plus his local connections.
Plus, he had already started to find a spot on this team.

Now... there is not $6,680,000 M from MIL. Contract dollars will be a bigger issue now.

I expect he will balance money and opportunity and look for a 1 yr with player option.

Exit interviews are today I believe. I think they clean out their lockers today.

[dckingsfan]

I concur with your hope that Humphries can/will move back to the 3pt line. He's been a good jump shooter on mid-to-long range 2s throughout his career. Surely he's strong enough to shoot the three. If he can shoot 40% on long twos (he's at .407 for his career), it seems likely he could shoot at least 30% from three. Which would be a net plus.

I wonder what would be a realistic 3pt %? I would think .350 would be a base. I guess your point is that if he shoots 0.271 from 3pt land it would be break even and .300 would be an improvement.

[TheSecretWeapon]

I concur with your hope that Humphries can/will move back to the 3pt line. He's been a good jump shooter on mid-to-long range 2s throughout his career. Surely he's strong enough to shoot the three. If he can shoot 40% on long twos (he's at .407 for his career), it seems likely he could shoot at least 30% from three. Which would be a net plus.

I wonder what would be a realistic 3pt %? I would think .350 would be a base. I guess your point is that if he shoots 0.271 from 3pt land it would be break even and .300 would be an improvement.

Right. I don't see any way he can shoot worse than 30% on threes if he's shooting better than 40% on long twos. I suspect you're correct that 33-35% is realistic.

[dckingsfan]

I concur with your hope that Humphries can/will move back to the 3pt line. He's been a good jump shooter on mid-to-long range 2s throughout his career. Surely he's strong enough to shoot the three. If he can shoot 40% on long twos (he's at .407 for his career), it seems likely he could shoot at least 30% from three. Which would be a net plus.

I wonder what would be a realistic 3pt %? I would think .350 would be a base. I guess your point is that if he shoots 0.271 from 3pt land it would be break even and .300 would be an improvement.

Right. I don't see any way he can shoot worse than 30% on threes if he's shooting better than 40% on long twos. I suspect you're correct that 33-35% is realistic.

Yep, and if he REALLY worked at it - maybe .375 - but that is a fan reaching maybe - but I think his stroke is very good.

[nate33]

I agree with nate. I'd be willing to bring back Gooden on a one-year deal at a modest price.

It was interesting that no teams offered him a larger contract for the last two years. There is a reason for that...

- he is viewed as old
- he is viewed as a backup

But I would think that someone would now offer him the bi-annual. I really don't think he is going to get the full MLE from anyone - but I could be wrong. And at 34 - I don't think anyone offers him more than a 2 year deal.

I would personally love to see Humphries move to the 3 point line and keep Gooden
PF: Humphries/Gooden
C: Gortat/Nene

Don't think that Wittman would do that though - and I don't think that Nene wants to play C...

dc..

It didn't matter for the most part before. He was getting Dray money from MIL

Yes. To clarify, Gooden had been amnestied by Milwaukee. He was getting $6.7M a year from them over the past 2 years. Any money that the Wizards paid him got subtracted out of the Milwaukee money. It didn't matter if Washington paid him $1.1M or $5M a year; either way, he was going to get a total of $6.7M. So, naturally, Washington paid him the minimum to force Milwaukee to pay the bulk of his salary.

That dynamic no longer applies because his amnestied Milwaukee contract has expired. Gooden is now an ordinary free agent receiving no money from anybody. He has a financial motivation to go to the highest bidder.

[dckingsfan]

Ben Standig: Drew Gooden said he would love to return, but he understands the business. He's no longer receiving that amnesty money from the Bucks.

[Higga]

Love what Gooden did for us but I'd be hesitant to bring him back for any significant amount of money. He's really old and the thing about age is that when it goes it often goes suddenly. Remember London Fletcher of the Redskins? Dude went from Pro Bowler in 2011-2012 to being god awful in 2013.

There has gotta be a younger, more athletic stretch 4 out there.

[hands11]

I agree with nate. I'd be willing to bring back Gooden on a one-year deal at a modest price.

Can we stop the circle jerk around here at some point ?

As for Gooden. You aren't likely to get him for one year at a modest price. Whatever that means.

Min is more likely a two years with a player option at 3-4 M.

Welcome back to my ignore list, asshat.

LOL

[hands11]

Ben Standig: Drew Gooden said he would love to return, but he understands the business. He's no longer receiving that amnesty money from the Bucks.

Sounds very interested in returning. And he is going to work on expanding his S4 skills this summer.

http://www.monumentalnetwork.com/videos/drew-gooden-exit-interview-5-18-15

[dckingsfan]

Yep, will be interesting to see who wins the bidding war...