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Re: Re: Wizards Summer League 2016 

Post#361 » by mictic » Sun Jul 17, 2016 2:16 pm

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closg00 wrote:Both House and Eric shrank against better matchups today.


Huh? Eric was defending Cooley, who played in Spain last season, who ate him up. House struggled but was again playing the 4, either against Portis or Davies. I think he's going to have to show he can defend the 3 spot in training camp and play a little S4, though he's just too small. We really didn't have much of an option at that spot and they were trying to give McClellan a long look at the 3.

House weighs @195 lbs. He's 6'5"+ in shoes. If he's to make it in the league, it'll have to be at the 2. Not the 3 and obviously not the 4.


Draftexpress has him listed as 6'7'' and 215lbs with no sources.
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Re: Wizards Summer League 2016 

Post#362 » by Ruzious » Sun Jul 17, 2016 7:52 pm

payitforward wrote:Wolters had a great college career. Coming out of school, he was one of those "low risk - high reward" types that are worth taking a chance on in R2, where he went #38 in 2013 -- maybe a little high.

I assume everybody remembers that we actually had the #38 pick -- and the #54 pick as well -- that year. We traded both those picks for the chance to pick the inimitable Glen Rice III.

Had we kept those picks we could have had Wolters. Even better, tho, would have been to pick Jeff Withey at that spot. Then at 54, we would have been able to pick DeWayne Dedmon.

Now... the above is most definitely hindsight, which is always 20-20. No blame on Ernie for this particular move. Some people had Rice graded as a late R1 pick. & in fact, Dedmon went undrafted that year -- so in fact we could have had him even with the trade. And we can have Wolters right now if we want him.

I was "virtually" screaming for the Wiz to pick Withey. He went 39th. :banghead:
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Re: Re: Wizards Summer League 2016 

Post#363 » by payitforward » Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:42 am

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Huh? Eric was defending Cooley, who played in Spain last season, who ate him up. House struggled but was again playing the 4, either against Portis or Davies. I think he's going to have to show he can defend the 3 spot in training camp and play a little S4, though he's just too small. We really didn't have much of an option at that spot and they were trying to give McClellan a long look at the 3.

House weighs @195 lbs. He's 6'5"+ in shoes. If he's to make it in the league, it'll have to be at the 2. Not the 3 and obviously not the 4.

Draftexpress has him listed as 6'7'' and 215lbs with no sources.

Fair enough, maybe he's grown a little. That's what DR has as well.
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Re: Re: Wizards Summer League 2016 

Post#364 » by 80sballboy » Mon Jul 18, 2016 1:43 am

payitforward wrote:
mictic wrote:
payitforward wrote:House weighs @195 lbs. He's 6'5"+ in shoes. If he's to make it in the league, it'll have to be at the 2. Not the 3 and obviously not the 4.

Draftexpress has him listed as 6'7'' and 215lbs with no sources.

Fair enough, maybe he's grown a little. That's what DR has as well.


I'm assuming you're not watching the games because there's no way he's 6-5, 195. He's a lot thicker than McClellan who is 6-6, 195.

http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/teams/Washington-Wizards/30/Rosters/Summer_League
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Re: Wizards Summer League 2016 

Post#365 » by payitforward » Mon Jul 18, 2016 2:58 am

I'm watching the games, son. And watching lots of games of the other teams as well. If House looks "big" to you, in any sense, get your TV checked out. Or your eyes. Or watch recordings of some players on other teams who actually are big.

While you're at it you might look at some players in SL who played extremely well too, which House didn't. He wasn't terrible, but nothing special.
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Re: Re: Wizards Summer League 2016 

Post#366 » by Ruzious » Mon Jul 18, 2016 3:38 am

80sballboy wrote:
payitforward wrote:
mictic wrote:Draftexpress has him listed as 6'7'' and 215lbs with no sources.

Fair enough, maybe he's grown a little. That's what DR has as well.


I'm assuming you're not watching the games because there's no way he's 6-5, 195. He's a lot thicker than McClellan who is 6-6, 195.

http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/teams/Washington-Wizards/30/Rosters/Summer_League

He went 2 for 8 with 1 rebound and no assists in a game he needed to showcase his skills. Why argue about someone like this? You shake a D League tree, and a dozen House's fall to the ground. Quite a thud.
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Re: Wizards Summer League 2016 

Post#367 » by Ruzious » Mon Jul 18, 2016 3:48 am

payitforward wrote:I'm watching the games, son. And watching lots of games of the other teams as well. If House looks "big" to you, in any sense, get your TV checked out. Or your eyes. Or watch recordings of some players on other teams who actually are big.

While you're at it you might look at some players in SL who played extremely well too, which House didn't. He wasn't terrible, but nothing special.

Kay Felder - I was raving about him before the draft - saying he's a better among the tiny guards than Tyler Ulis - who I like, btw. Felder had a huge game the other night - something like 22 points and 5 assists. The box sxore said he had 3 blocks. He's maybe 5'9, but he's built much better than Ulis, and he can sky.

Tyus Jones showed why he was a first rounder last year with a huge game for Minnesota. Unlike Felder, he's not going to wow anyone with his athleticism, but he is the dictionary definition of a true point guard.

And for the Bucks, huge Josh Smith from G-town quietly finished strong with a 10 points, 8 boards performance in just 15 minutes. He pushed his rebound average to 6.6 in just 16.6 minutes per game - though his offense for the 5 games wasn't good, and he has to be careful about fouling. But he did well enough - I think - to get a D League spot and keep his name on some radars.
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Re: Wizards Summer League 2016 

Post#368 » by 80sballboy » Tue Jul 19, 2016 3:19 pm

payitforward wrote:I'm watching the games, son. And watching lots of games of the other teams as well. If House looks "big" to you, in any sense, get your TV checked out. Or your eyes. Or watch recordings of some players on other teams who actually are big.

While you're at it you might look at some players in SL who played extremely well too, which House didn't. He wasn't terrible, but nothing special.


I thought you were on vacation, "son". You just seem to spout a lot of numbers. House does appear big standing next to Dawson and McClellan. I mean wide, not tall. Also I never said House was special, just that he had a chance to make an impact before camp started. Compared him to this roster, not the rest of the Summer League because I know there are many better options that we drafted or not drafted. On this team, he played better than "he wasn't terrible". That ain't according to just me by the way, but maybe I better go back to the eye doctor but again, I wasn't the one that said he was 190. :-?
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Re: Wizards Summer League 2016 

Post#369 » by payitforward » Tue Jul 19, 2016 3:29 pm

80sballboy wrote:
payitforward wrote:I'm watching the games, son. And watching lots of games of the other teams as well. If House looks "big" to you, in any sense, get your TV checked out. Or your eyes. Or watch recordings of some players on other teams who actually are big.

While you're at it you might look at some players in SL who played extremely well too, which House didn't. He wasn't terrible, but nothing special.

I thought you were on vacation, "son". You just seem to spout a lot of numbers. House does appear big standing next to Dawson and McClellan, "son". I mean wide, not tall.

That was a coupla weeks ago, pops. And anyway, any "house" looks wide standing next to a door, son (Dawson?).

What does it matter how big, wide or whatever House looks next to Dawson or McClellan? He's a wing player, and he's small for a 3.

E.g. Beal weighed 202 at the combine when he wasn't yet 19, and stood almost 6' 5" in shoes. By now he's an inch taller and at least 5 lbs heavier.
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Re: Wizards Summer League 2016 

Post#370 » by payitforward » Tue Jul 19, 2016 3:49 pm

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payitforward wrote:I'm watching the games, son. And watching lots of games of the other teams as well. If House looks "big" to you, in any sense, get your TV checked out. Or your eyes. Or watch recordings of some players on other teams who actually are big.

While you're at it you might look at some players in SL who played extremely well too, which House didn't. He wasn't terrible, but nothing special.

Kay Felder - I was raving about him before the draft - saying he's a better among the tiny guards than Tyler Ulis - who I like, btw. ...Tyus Jones showed why he was a first rounder...

Felder definitely looks like he can play in the league. And play well. Ulis looked outstanding much of the time (and occasionally a little bit lost); like Jones, he looks to have a long NBA career, a solid one.

The only problem is - as always - judging anything off of SL. Take a look at how well Adreian Payne played, for example, a guy who has never been anything but awful in the NBA.
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Re: Wizards Summer League 2016 

Post#371 » by closg00 » Sat Jul 23, 2016 9:22 pm

So is SL over? The last score I see is the Bulls winning in OT.

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