Wizards sign Donald Sloan

[NatP4]

The thing is... if you want to develop Satoransky, & if you believe in Frazier (at least enough that you were willing to trade an asset, any asset, for him), then why would you sign Sloan?

In particular, why would you sign him to take your roster up to 16 players? Maybe if he had a camp deal... but apparently he is fully guaranteed. That means someone has to go, & the only "someone"s available are Sheldon Mac & Daniel Ochefu, both of whom have only partially guaranteed deals.

Given that Mac played way more minutes than Ochefu last year, & that he looked improved in SL, I suppose it's Ochefu who is likely to go. I hope so. I'd much rather have Sheldon Mac at 24 than Donald Sloan at 29.

Still... why was he signed? That's the unanswered question. Is there an injury we haven't heard about yet?

Depth at PG has proven to be vital and hard to come by for Ernest G from Tennessee. Sato's not a PG. You can dress him up like a PG, call him a PG, put PG next to him on the roster, but he "ain't no NBA PG" as the old saying goes. That leaves Frazier - who's not good. Maybe John Wall notified them. I doubt they lose Mac, but... he really doesn't have much value, and he's never been much of a shooter. The Wiz upgraded their bench shooting in the backcourt this offseason - which uh... wasn't difficult.

Sato is a facilitator.

A better coach would have utilized him and Sheldon Mac better. I think last season the bench got WORSE after EG traded for Bogs. Defense went to hell. Brooks forgot Sato was even on the roster. (I expect he won't sniff playing time this season with the acquisition of Meeks, Frazier, and perhaps Sloan. Veterans get carte blanche and unmerited PT under this coach).

Sato can defend reasonably well and he can be a passer who helps the set offense.

Scott Brooks was way rigid and unimaginative with Sato. Ruzious, I didn't see enough games to know for sure and I respect your opinion.

I think Sato can play with the right lineup. Sato, Meeks, Oubre, Scott, Smith might not need a prototypical NBA PG.

Let Sato facilitate.

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Sato and Mac won't even see the floor this season. I can see the Sloan/Frazier/Wall combos with Meeks stealing Oubre's playing time and Jason Smith and Mike Scott playing over using small ball.

I can't think of a worse offseason, would've preferred they do literally nothing and bring this back:

wall sato
beal mac
otto oubre
keef
gortat mahinmi

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

NatP4, Ernie could have effed it up (even) more.

I do agree that the acquisitions screw both Sato and Mac. I was pissed at Brooks for not using either player enough last season.

They won't play is most likely what will happen.



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[long suffrin' boulez fan]

... The Wiz upgraded their bench shooting in the backcourt this offseason....

I've been thinking about this from a new perspective. I mean not just bench shooting, but the entire bench upgrade.

Think about this way: we traded a R2 pick for Burke. Then, we upgraded our bench by not retaining Burke. So doesn't that mean that we got an opportunity to upgrade our bench -- and all it cost us was a R2 pick?

Now... if you use this same model to examine the Frazier trade, it looks much better than it might otherwise. I mean... the guy's no good. Letting him go will no doubt constitute another bench upgrade. & once again, all it will cost us for that upgrade is a R2 pick.

That Ernie, he's devious & clever.

Yeah, it's like shooting yourself in the foot, and when the wound gets infected, amputating your leg and saying, "There. Much better!"

Good analogy, but I would go one step further. EFG would spend a second round pick to purchase the rusty saw for the amputation

[Ruzious]

The thing is... if you want to develop Satoransky, & if you believe in Frazier (at least enough that you were willing to trade an asset, any asset, for him), then why would you sign Sloan?

In particular, why would you sign him to take your roster up to 16 players? Maybe if he had a camp deal... but apparently he is fully guaranteed. That means someone has to go, & the only "someone"s available are Sheldon Mac & Daniel Ochefu, both of whom have only partially guaranteed deals.

Given that Mac played way more minutes than Ochefu last year, & that he looked improved in SL, I suppose it's Ochefu who is likely to go. I hope so. I'd much rather have Sheldon Mac at 24 than Donald Sloan at 29.

Still... why was he signed? That's the unanswered question. Is there an injury we haven't heard about yet?

Depth at PG has proven to be vital and hard to come by for Ernest G from Tennessee. Sato's not a PG. You can dress him up like a PG, call him a PG, put PG next to him on the roster, but he "ain't no NBA PG" as the old saying goes. That leaves Frazier - who's not good. Maybe John Wall notified them. I doubt they lose Mac, but... he really doesn't have much value, and he's never been much of a shooter. The Wiz upgraded their bench shooting in the backcourt this offseason - which uh... wasn't difficult.

Sato is a facilitator.

A better coach would have utilized him and Sheldon Mac better. I think last season the bench got WORSE after EG traded for Bogs. Defense went to hell. Brooks forgot Sato was even on the roster. (I expect he won't sniff playing time this season with the acquisition of Meeks, Frazier, and perhaps Sloan. Veterans get carte blanche and unmerited PT under this coach).

Sato can defend reasonably well and he can be a passer who helps the set offense.

Scott Brooks was way rigid and unimaginative with Sato. Ruzious, I didn't see enough games to know for sure and I respect your opinion.

I think Sato can play with the right lineup. Sato, Meeks, Oubre, Scott, Smith might not need a prototypical NBA PG.

Let Sato facilitate.

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Problem is - Sato couldn't shoot to save his life, so teams could play way off of him. That erases passing lanes, which takes away his ability to facilitate. And while Sato works his arse off on defense, he's not able to guard quick point guards... and in the NBA, 95% of the PGs are quick PG's. It's a different game in Europe. In the NBA, he's a 2... both offensively and defensively, but he's got to show he can shoot - no matter what position he plays.

[Ruzious]

... The Wiz upgraded their bench shooting in the backcourt this offseason....

I've been thinking about this from a new perspective. I mean not just bench shooting, but the entire bench upgrade.

Think about this way: we traded a R2 pick for Burke. Then, we upgraded our bench by not retaining Burke. So doesn't that mean that we got an opportunity to upgrade our bench -- and all it cost us was a R2 pick?

Now... if you use this same model to examine the Frazier trade, it looks much better than it might otherwise. I mean... the guy's no good. Letting him go will no doubt constitute another bench upgrade. & once again, all it will cost us for that upgrade is a R2 pick.

That Ernie, he's devious & clever.

Every year, we trade a first rounder for a problematic forward - and a 2nd rounder for a very limited backup PG. At least eliminate one of those moves, and we make progress. But it seems as if Washington almost has contempt for any draft pick past the top 3. The odd thing is - this goes directly against what Ted said was going to be the key to Washington's success when he became owner of the Wiz.