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Post#341 » by whatisacenter » Sat Oct 28, 2017 3:38 pm

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closg00 wrote:CCJ wanted very badly for us to get another pick and to get Loony, 30th pick. SMH


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we worked out Looney and alot of experts had us picking him at 19.

but he had asthma and motor issues. Would've been my pick if we didn't trade up to nab Oubre. Had the highest upside in that range BY FAR

He also had I believe a hip issue.

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Yeah, Looney has had two surgeries since we drafted him. Really hasn't been able to stay on the court so far in his career.

I really like what you guys have going on. Oubre and Porter look to be stepping their games up and once you get Morris back your bench will be that much better.
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Re: Washington Wizards vs. Golden State Warriors (10/27 10:30 PM) 

Post#342 » by payitforward » Sat Oct 28, 2017 4:11 pm

NatP4 wrote:
closg00 wrote:CCJ wanted very badly for us to get another pick and to get Loony, 30th pick. SMH

we worked out Looney and alot of experts had us picking him at 19.

but he had asthma and motor issues. Would've been my pick if we didn't trade up to nab Oubre. Had the highest upside in that range BY FAR

CCJ & I both wanted Looney, it's true. Our mutual assumption was that Portis (first choice of us both) would be gone. Of course we had no idea that Ernie would trade up for KO.

As it turns out, rather than get another R1 pick & take Looney, we'd have been a lot better off spending less & getting two R2 picks -- picking Richaun Holmes & Montrezl Harrell. & then picking up Willie Reed undrafted.

Was a strange draft that one.
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Re: Washington Wizards vs. Golden State Warriors (10/27 10:30 PM) 

Post#343 » by Dark Faze » Sat Oct 28, 2017 5:12 pm

Didn't watch--who was guarding David West? Was Mahinmi any good? He should be locking a guy like West down given his role and contract.
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Re: Washington Wizards vs. Golden State Warriors (10/27 10:30 PM) 

Post#344 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Sat Oct 28, 2017 5:24 pm

Mahinmi was straight garbage last night
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Re: Washington Wizards vs. Golden State Warriors (10/27 10:30 PM) 

Post#345 » by CobraCommander » Sat Oct 28, 2017 5:42 pm

Dark Faze wrote:Didn't watch--who was guarding David West? Was Mahinmi any good? He should be locking a guy like West down given his role and contract.


Mahinmi has hands and feet of stone. He was really worthless. He doesnt even bring toughness. He could literally be out of the league and no one would notice.

I didnt expect the wiz to win but i did expect them to play well. They played well for the most part. Sad issue is that that Lakers L hurts more than even this one for me because they were respectable tonight.
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Re: RE: Re: Washington Wizards vs. Golden State Warriors (10/27 10:30 PM) 

Post#346 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat Oct 28, 2017 5:44 pm

Dark Faze wrote:Didn't watch--who was guarding David West? Was Mahinmi any good? He should be locking a guy like West down given his role and contract.

West dominating is very reminiscent of Al Horford dominating in the playoffs. The Wizards have not taken any steps to correct the mismatch of a big man with perimeter skills against Gortat or Mahinmi. Scott is not going to cut it.

Morris would help some but there is still something lacking on this team.

McCulloch may as well not be on the roster because Brooks is never going to use him and I guess he's just not any good.

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Re: RE: Re: Washington Wizards vs. Golden State Warriors (10/27 10:30 PM) 

Post#347 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat Oct 28, 2017 5:53 pm

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closg00 wrote:CCJ wanted very badly for us to get another pick and to get Loony, 30th pick. SMH

we worked out Looney and alot of experts had us picking him at 19.

but he had asthma and motor issues. Would've been my pick if we didn't trade up to nab Oubre. Had the highest upside in that range BY FAR

CCJ & I both wanted Looney, it's true. Our mutual assumption was that Portis (first choice of us both) would be gone. Of course we had no idea that Ernie would trade up for KO.

As it turns out, rather than get another R1 pick & take Looney, we'd have been a lot better off spending less & getting two R2 picks -- picking Richaun Holmes & Montrezl Harrell. & then picking up Willie Reed undrafted.

Was a strange draft that one.

It would still be nice to get Portis on this team. Washington is getting outrebounded by four a game.

I believe this team might be better with a player like Portis at center than it is with Gortat or Mahinmi. I haven't watched Portis defend but I know he is more versatile on offense than Marcin. I assume he would be better defending Al Horford or David West.

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Re: Washington Wizards vs. Golden State Warriors (10/27 10:30 PM) 

Post#348 » by nate33 » Sat Oct 28, 2017 6:44 pm

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Dark Faze wrote:Didn't watch--who was guarding David West? Was Mahinmi any good? He should be locking a guy like West down given his role and contract.


Mahinmi has hands and feet of stone. He was really worthless. He doesnt even bring toughness. He could literally be out of the league and no one would notice.


It's like his hand-eye coordination has declined significantly. He can't catch a pass and he longer is showing the quick hands that enabled him to put up respectable steals and blocks numbers last year. Last year, he averaged 2.1 steals, 1.6 blocks, 2.2 turnovers and 5.8 fouls per 36 minutes. This year, it's down to 1.1 steals 1.1 blocks, 3.3 turnovers, and 6.5 fouls per 36. (Small sample size applies, of course.)

We may be better off with Jason Smith at center. He has quicker feet and is often in better position to defend drives to the rim. He doesn't have the length to block the shot, but at least he'll commit a hard foul rather than give up an easy 2. Obviously, Smith is light years better on offense.
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Re: Washington Wizards vs. Golden State Warriors (10/27 10:30 PM) 

Post#349 » by AFM » Sat Oct 28, 2017 6:46 pm

glad I didn't watch this one
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Re: Washington Wizards vs. Golden State Warriors (10/27 10:30 PM) 

Post#350 » by montestewart » Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:21 pm

AFM wrote:glad I didn't watch this one

It was pretty excruciating, but also pretty exciting. I'm glad I did, and the Comcast feed even returned the sound for the 4th quarter.

AFM, make a game thread! They can take the Kings, and maybe they get on a roll and you help them take the Cavs in DC!
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Re: Washington Wizards vs. Golden State Warriors (10/27 10:30 PM) 

Post#351 » by trast66 » Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:44 pm

This game, and first 5 in general, prove we are who we thought we were:

1. Our top 6 can play with any top 6.
2. Bench stinks. Smith, Meeks, Scott need to have outlier years to make ECF. Mahinmi & Frazier should get zero minutes.
3. Brooks is good at developing young players. Maybe proof Sato is just not an NBA level player.
4. Some trade involving our first round pick and getting out of luxury tax will happen.
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Re: Washington Wizards vs. Golden State Warriors (10/27 10:30 PM) 

Post#352 » by tontoz » Sat Oct 28, 2017 10:13 pm

Finally got done watching the game. At least they played better. The effort on D was better and they heated up from 3. I think many overlooked their weak play in the first 3 games because they won.

KO has always looked like a guy who could hit 3s but really hasn't done so. Nice to see him heating up and avoiding those awful drives. He has really solidified his spot in the rotation. A game like this against the champs can do a lot for a young guy's confidence.

Wall needs to get his head out of his ass. He is 14-42 the last two games. I am reminded of something Gary Williams screamed at a player during a U of Md practice years ago "Stop shooting! you are not a f-ing shooter!".

Wall is so predicable when he takes it to the basket. No fakes, no misdirection, just straight to the basket full steam ahead. Does he not realize the other team has a scouting report on him?
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Re: Washington Wizards vs. Golden State Warriors (10/27 10:30 PM) 

Post#353 » by dangermouse » Sat Oct 28, 2017 10:43 pm

payitforward wrote:
NatP4 wrote:
closg00 wrote:CCJ wanted very badly for us to get another pick and to get Loony, 30th pick. SMH

we worked out Looney and alot of experts had us picking him at 19.

but he had asthma and motor issues. Would've been my pick if we didn't trade up to nab Oubre. Had the highest upside in that range BY FAR

CCJ & I both wanted Looney, it's true. Our mutual assumption was that Portis (first choice of us both) would be gone. Of course we had no idea that Ernie would trade up for KO.

As it turns out, rather than get another R1 pick & take Looney, we'd have been a lot better off spending less & getting two R2 picks -- picking Richaun Holmes & Montrezl Harrell. & then picking up Willie Reed undrafted.

Was a strange draft that one.


I still remember liking Looney as well. I think i coined the phrase Looney Tunes or Looney Bin or something for those of us on here that were high on him.

Getting Oubre was preferable of course, he looked starter calibre last night. Hitting threes and getting boards... In fact I think Beal and Wall didnt look starter calibre. Wall is shooting us out of games. His shot needs to start falling or he needs to look to set up others in the 4th more than he does in the 1st.
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NatP4 wrote:but why would the pacers want Mahinmi's contract


Well, in fairness, we took Mike Pence off their hands. Taking back Mahinmi is the least they can do.
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Re: Washington Wizards vs. Golden State Warriors (10/27 10:30 PM) 

Post#354 » by dangermouse » Sat Oct 28, 2017 10:48 pm

tontoz wrote:Finally got done watching the game. At least they played better. The effort on D was better and they heated up from 3.


This was what i noticed the most. Our 3pt defense was fantastic, we challenged absolutely everything and only fouled KD once on a really soft call. We also rebounded decently most of the game. We took GS completely out of their offense and they only won from some Durant heroics and a lot of boneheaded mistakes & stagnant offense on our end (again).

If Brooks can get us to play D like that every game, we'll be the best team in the east, even with a sub par bench and offensive woes, the latter of which will sort itself out as we continue through the season.
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NatP4 wrote:but why would the pacers want Mahinmi's contract


Well, in fairness, we took Mike Pence off their hands. Taking back Mahinmi is the least they can do.
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Re: Washington Wizards vs. Golden State Warriors (10/27 10:30 PM) 

Post#355 » by dckingsfan » Sat Oct 28, 2017 11:18 pm

Do we know about suspensions yet?
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Re: Washington Wizards vs. Golden State Warriors (10/27 10:30 PM) 

Post#356 » by TheBabyMaker » Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:11 am

dckingsfan wrote:Do we know about suspensions yet?


Kelly should be suspended for being pretty and clocking John Wall in the back of the head 1 game. John Wall 1 game for being an idiot at the end of 2 games (last 2) with his hero ball. Beal 1 game for missing freethrows at the end of the LOLers game.
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Re: Washington Wizards vs. Golden State Warriors (10/27 10:30 PM) 

Post#357 » by diaboliQ_Mo » Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:26 am

Must’ve been a real sweet night for ex-wiz prodigals SwaggyP and the other tall guy. It makes the loss even more annoying. :nonono:
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Post#358 » by The Consiglieri » Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:45 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
closg00 wrote:CCJ wanted very badly for us to get another pick and to get Loony, 30th pick. SMH


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You remember.

Yep.

He's been injured for 2 years but when healthy that guy can play.

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Classic example of the prospect I prefer us to draft after the top 10-15 picks. Take the guy with the ceiling. Use FA and Undrafted Free Agents for role playing bench positions. When you hit on those "talent" guys that fall, you're basically getting an all star for peanuts. It's worth the misses that taking those big swings necessitates over the fullness of time. You'll miss more than you hit, but at the end of the day, that's why you take swings at Rudy Gobert's, and Giannis types and yes even Looney (granted he's a long ways off those guys, but the premise applies in exactly the same way).

I liked him a lot too, that draft for me was about getting him, or Portis, but then we traded up, and I was fine w/who we got in the trade up because the ceiling justified the move.

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