Fandom has it's limits. When to cut back?

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I'm really tired of being a Wizards fan.

Ernie Grunfeld and Scott Brooks and Ted Leonsis ... with this current team...I'm going to be continually upset.

Like the playoffs loss to Boston.

This team is a hard luck team that's getting to be tough to root for.

[TheBigThree]

Moved out of the DC area and have cut back the amount I watch by probably 90% over the past 3 years. Now I basically stick to highlights/prime time games and subject myself to the annual playoff failure, which is easier to take having not watched months and months of meaningless regular season games.

I highly recommend it, this team (and, frankly, all DC sports) aren't worth the investment.

[Shanghai Kid]

I typically take a take step when I feel like sports is consuming too much of my daily thoughts. Almost everything is better in moderation and sports is the same for me. The other aspect that can be exhausting and unhealthy is when your team losing effects your temperament in your every day life. The day after the game 7 loss I had to remind myself that sports is for fun and isn't something I should let personally effect me. I oddly felt the same after the Lakers loss last week.

It's easy to be a hardcore fan of a really good team, but a team like the Wizards is basically a roller coaster ride, so it's hard to invest too much. I know this season for example most of us came into the season with high expectations, and it may still pan out, but I think the horrible losses so far have been really bad just because of the built-up expectations.

A step back can be a good thing. It would be perfectly reasonable to follow the Wizards casually until the All-star break then get more into it. Watching every game and dealing with the losses can be emotionally taxing.

But we're on a basketball message board so I'm guessing the fandom here is such that most of us are probably accustomed to the more hardcore fandom level in sports.

[Wizardspride]

Nah. This is nothing.

Try being a fan of the Pelicans.

Call me an optimist but I believe we'll figure things out.

Way too early to bail.

[tontoz]

I typically don't watch games live. Last year I started taping all the games and either watched with a delay or didn't watch at all.

My expectations weren't that high to start the season so I am not too disappointed now.

[nate33]

It's very frustrating to be a Wizards fan. There's just no sense of professionalism from the team. They're talented and they seem to want to work hard, but they don't pay attention to detail. They consistently get outsmarted by good coaching.

I try to keep my stress levels down by reminding myself that the regular season doesn't really matter. Just win 44+ games and make the playoffs, and we'll see what happens after that.

[AFM]

I’ve only watched two full games this year. Lately I’ve been doing other stuff and having the stream on my laptop in the background. If I Hear buckhantz say “and they’ve cut it to three!!” I’ll check the score and see if I should turn it on for the fourth quarter. But I’ve been so busy with work recently that I can’t really justify spending 2.5 hours watching these clowns.

[stilldropin20]

The paradigm shift in the NBA where ball movement player movement offense are fully implemented will take time to reach all teams. The bulls are going through it right now.

What NBA executives are figuring out is that you dont exactly need "superstars" to have a good team. Atlanta and SAS figured this out first. Then kerr took it to GS. and Stevens runs perhaps an even better version of it in Boston.

Good player look great in these systems so long as all 5 players buy in.

The trouble is top end talent like Wade(used to be) and Jimmy Butler is that they dont want to embrace this system because it threatens their status as "go-to-iso-ball" superstars as player movement/ball movement makes an good player just as effective as these great players in terms of TS%.

i dont follow the wizards enough to know what the issue is here though.

[Kanyewest]

I have been watching them on DVR, using the 30 second fast forward button to skip through free throws. Only spent like 30-40 minutes of real time to watch them in the last one.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I didn't watch the last game but I noticed that when Wall has 14 assists and no other Wizards player has more than one or two assists; that tends to lose when the other team has several players with four or more assists.

Which one do you think has more ball and player movement? A ball dominant Wall team?

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[stilldropin20]

I didn't watch the last game but I noticed that when Wall has 14 assists and no other Wizards player has more than one or two assists; that tends to lose when the other team has several players with four or more assists.

Which one do you think has more ball and player movement? A ball dominant Wall team?

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it's a usage thing. where one guy like westbrook last year dominates the ball so much, it usually has a cap...like 2nd round or conference finals at best...aka the iversonian model. It can still will work, and get a team to the 2nd round. but it tends to be expensive and you need unique talent like Westbrook or Wall to carry the lions share. which makes that player expensive and it hands over the keys of th efranchise to that player. That players gets to essentiually pick his coach. pick his role players. which makes that coach and those role players more expensive(in actual salary cap money and future draft picks that it often costs to acquire them like the cavs gave up for lebron to get Korver). For lebron you do it. Everyone else? history has shown it to be a mistake.

Such a mistake that teams take forever to rebuild after a player like Iverson leaves. Took philly a decade and a half. and they are repaeating the same mistakes by having Simmons and Embiid dominate the offense so much which simultaneous lessons the trade values of players like Saric, Mcconnell, Covington, Noel, Okefor, and even fultz (who looks like a wasted pick that should have been spent on tatum).

The best thing about lowering your own superstars usage rates is that their stats dip which makes them more affordable to retain and lessor players have bigger roles and better stats which fluffs their trade values. see jae crowder.

and in this type of offense your players become more plug and play. If you lose Tony parker, Danny green steps right in. No Kawhi Leonard(who might be the best player in the game today? in comes jonathon simmons).

right now, 1 team, 1 coach and 1 executive are just killing it with the win with no superstars model. Danny Ainge n brad stevens. they soon will have their own young version of GSW. Obviously Kerr and GSW are the gold standard. Pops and SAS still up there. and they set the market/standard.

[trast66]

Frustration this year is we are not "harvesting our nuts" or whatever Eddie Jordan said.

I'll always DVR/watch while multi tasking the games and attend 5 or so cheap seat games and all the playoff games every year no matter the state of the team. I really enjoy NBA basketball.

[AFM]

fellas we need a safe word when subjected to this torture

[verbal8]

The paradigm shift in the NBA where ball movement player movement offense are fully implemented will take time to reach all teams. The bulls are going through it right now.

i dont follow the wizards enough to know what the issue is here though.

I think the problem is the politics section of the message board.

[stilldropin20]

The paradigm shift in the NBA where ball movement player movement offense are fully implemented will take time to reach all teams. The bulls are going through it right now.

i dont follow the wizards enough to know what the issue is here though.

I think the problem is the politics section of the message board.

true dat, brofessor!! its so tempting, though.