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Post#61 » by tontoz » Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:36 pm

leswizards wrote:
tontoz wrote:...Neither guy is an efficient scorer. ...Embid tries to do too much, leading to bad shots and turnovers....


If Embid were to start shooting the 3 the way he did last year, or start reducing the number of 3s he attempt, he would be incredibly efficient as a scorer.


I guess you haven't looked at his turnover rate. It is really bad.
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Post#62 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:21 am

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I totally understand and support your desire to get rid of EG. But what I don't understand is your desire to see the Zards have a mediocre or bad season to achieve that goal. Why call for making life miserable for Wizard fans, players and coaches in order to get rid of one individual? I don't get that.


Because some of us are pretty dissatisfied already. Last season they failed to advance past Boston. That KILLED my enthusiasm. Their bench was horrific. The coach didn't have much to work with. I'm hoping for change that advances them farther.

DCZ, you're one of the many who seem to be really happy with status quo. 44-47 wins and an early out. That's better than nothing. I guess it's decent. But I see the Wizards "decent" as VERY frustrating. Get rid of that ONE INDIVIDUAL and I guarantee you they will not fail the same way.

I would rather see this team miss the playoffs, and get a high lottery pick; than for them to make the playoffs and lose in round one.

BY NOT GETTING RID OF GRUNFELD, I can virtually GUARANTEE they will once again trade away the first round pick just to try and move Mahinmi. Watch and see.


Who said anything about being happy with the status quo, CCJ? I can assure you that I want to win a championship as badly as anyone on this board. And it's clear that I'm more about winning than you are. :) As I said, I think losing is the absolutely wrong medicine for fans, players, coaches and the city.

I agree with getting rid of EG but I will NEVER embrace (or call for) losing games as an option when the goal is to win. It's just not in my DNA, bro.

It's also a little naive on your part to think that getting rid of one individual is some sort of silver bullet that will result in the Zards becoming title contenders.

Troy Weaver. Make him the GM. Has DC roots and he has worked with Scott Brooks before, in OKC. He's been an assistant GM forever.

I just want something different than EG.

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Post#63 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Nov 23, 2017 7:06 am

At 17 or 18 games into the season the Wizards are tied for 7th. They are only two games from being in 12th place.

Detroit, New York, and Philadelphia are ahead of the Wizards. The Wizards have played the easiest schedule in the entire NBA.

Wall and or Bradley Beal isolation play is not getting it done at the end of close games. This team does not protect leads well. This team has been very anti clutch.





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Post#64 » by closg00 » Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:22 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:At 17 or 18 games into the season the Wizards are tied for 7th. They are only two games from being in 12th place.

Detroit, New York, and Philadelphia are ahead of the Wizards. The Wizards have played the easiest schedule in the entire NBA.

Wall and or Bradley Beal isolation play is not getting it done at the end of close games. This team does not protect leads well. This team has been very anti clutch.





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+1 This is a huge part of the problem that coach Brooks needs to get control of. Also, Smith is in the doghouse, why? Give him some spot minutes at C.
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Post#65 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:33 pm

Smith should be playing. Solid veteran and an energy guy. I don't watch the games but just from an energy standpoint so should Satoransky.

How great would it be to have an imaginative coach who could Infuse energy by playing his entire depth of the roster?

Dare I say McCullough should get a minute or two here and there as well. All the people here who said he cannot play it all I know that he played a lot more for Brooklyn and he did a good job when he got in there. None other than Bogdan Bogdanovich said that McCullough is a good player.

I am well aware that his stats don't look great in his D League stats weren't great but Chris McCullough can play. He's a bit like Gerald Green and that he is not fundamentally solid but his Above the Rim and his 3-point shooting would make him a viable asset if the coach value him at all. Similarly to Sheldon Mac last season it seems like Scott Brooks did not take notice of anything the guy did an actual games. This season McCullough's stats are in packable for the limited minutes he receives.

So to conclude I believe Scott Brooks should be giving token minutes to Smith, Satoransky and McCullough. Yes, all 12 guys should be playing. Wall and Beal should be playing a little bit less and more intensely when they do play. Instead of being shot jackers they should be sharing the wealth. Some of the so-called scrubs should be playing a few minutes with the better players.

Instead of being 10-8, with better coaching this team could be 15 -3 or at least 13-5. I would be happy with 12 and 6.

I guess the big picture is all they really got to do is make the playoffs and get their s*** together....

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Post#66 » by Sluggerface » Fri Nov 24, 2017 7:14 pm

I really don't think the Optics are as bad as everyone is making it out to be. Washington is 7th in the league in SRS. Realistically Detroit and New York aren't on the level they are at. Boston is due for some regression at some point (hopefully, but who knows, didn't think they'd win 16 games straight while maintaining a +7 scoring differential). We're also looking at post shortened preseason fallout. The Western conference doesn't look nearly as good as we thought it would be. Things will level out over the course of the season and the team (barring catastrophic injury) will finish top 4 just like they did last season.
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Post#67 » by nate33 » Fri Nov 24, 2017 9:22 pm

Sluggerface wrote:I really don't think the Optics are as bad as everyone is making it out to be. Washington is 7th in the league in SRS. Realistically Detroit and New York aren't on the level they are at. Boston is due for some regression at some point (hopefully, but who knows, didn't think they'd win 16 games straight while maintaining a +7 scoring differential). We're also looking at post shortened preseason fallout. The Western conference doesn't look nearly as good as we thought it would be. Things will level out over the course of the season and the team (barring catastrophic injury) will finish top 4 just like they did last season.

This.

There is no need to panic. The first 18 games haven't gone as well as they should have, but it's not they've dug themselves a deep hole or anything. Up until the Charlotte game, the Wizards had run off 7 straight games holding their opponent to 100 points or less. They rank 5th in the league in offense, and 12th in the league in defense. Their point differential suggests they are on a 51-win pace. So far, they have lost a bunch of close games so their actual record is lagging their predicted record, but these things typically have a way of balancing out over the course of the season.
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Post#68 » by queridiculo » Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:23 pm

closg00 wrote:+1 This is a huge part of the problem that coach Brooks needs to get control of. Also, Smith is in the doghouse, why? Give him some spot minutes at C.


Brooks has 44 million reasons why.
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Post#69 » by Dark Faze » Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:05 am

Wall with a knee MRI. As I've been saying he doesn't look right. While his off season efforts kept him in unbelievable shape it's the first time in a while he didn't have a summer to rest. It was too much work and now he's paying for it. You rest him now, no question for an extended period of time. If he misses the season im completely fine with it. I'd love a mini tank and an opportunity to force Otto into higher usage. A high draft pick is exactly what we need.
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Post#70 » by nate33 » Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:23 pm

Dark Faze wrote:Wall with a knee MRI. As I've been saying he doesn't look right. While his off season efforts kept him in unbelievable shape it's the first time in a while he didn't have a summer to rest. It was too much work and now he's paying for it. You rest him now, no question for an extended period of time. If he misses the season im completely fine with it. I'd love a mini tank and an opportunity to force Otto into higher usage. A high draft pick is exactly what we need.

We're not tanking. I am looking forward to Otto increasing his usage rate, though.
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Post#71 » by FAH1223 » Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:34 pm

Dark Faze wrote:Wall with a knee MRI. As I've been saying he doesn't look right. While his off season efforts kept him in unbelievable shape it's the first time in a while he didn't have a summer to rest. It was too much work and now he's paying for it. You rest him now, no question for an extended period of time. If he misses the season im completely fine with it. I'd love a mini tank and an opportunity to force Otto into higher usage. A high draft pick is exactly what we need.


Wall is fine. 2 weeks in November/December being off is better than post-ASB.
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Post#72 » by Dark Faze » Sat Nov 25, 2017 8:20 pm

We will see. I dont personally think two weeks is enough time but we will see.
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Post#73 » by FAH1223 » Sun Nov 26, 2017 2:29 am

Okay. Another blown lead.

This is a trend and part of the team's identity now. They can't win close games or preserve leads.
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Post#74 » by gravytrain24 » Sun Nov 26, 2017 3:39 am

You look at the schedule for the next two weeks and I don't really look at a game and be confident. Maybe Utah but every other team in some way or another will give them fits. When wall comes back the record could very well be 11-15.
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Post#75 » by FAH1223 » Sun Nov 26, 2017 3:43 am

gravytrain24 wrote:You look at the schedule for the next two weeks and I don't really look at a game and be confident. Maybe Utah but every other team in some way or another will give them fits. When wall comes back the record could very well be 11-15.


Clippers are dysfunctional.

We seem to have Detroit's # when we play them in DC.

Revenge factor with the Suns game... we didn't have Otto when we blew that 22 point lead too.

The Jazz have trouble scoring for stretches..

You know what's funny? The Wiz could very well get out to double digit leads in a lot of these games and still LOSE! :lol:
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Post#76 » by gravytrain24 » Sun Nov 26, 2017 3:50 am

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gravytrain24 wrote:You look at the schedule for the next two weeks and I don't really look at a game and be confident. Maybe Utah but every other team in some way or another will give them fits. When wall comes back the record could very well be 11-15.


Clippers are dysfunctional.

We seem to have Detroit's # when we play them in DC.

Revenge factor with the Suns game... we didn't have Otto when we blew that 22 point lead too.

The Jazz have trouble scoring for stretches..

You know what's funny? The Wiz could very well get out to double digit leads in a lot of these games and still LOSE! :lol:


Clippers, I can see Blake Griffin going off and Jordan dominating the paint. Detroit, beal struggles with Avery Bradley covering him. Jackson and Drummond playing the pick and roll. Suns, booker didn't really go off and Monroe is playing well. Jazz are good defensively but that would be the one game I see them winning.
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Post#77 » by gambitx777 » Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:40 am

We about to lose 7 straight. lol
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Post#78 » by Dark Faze » Sun Nov 26, 2017 12:29 pm

Lose a ton for Ayton
Bomba for Bamba

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