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Re: GT #33: Wizards vs Magic 7:00 PM 

Post#81 » by 80sballboy » Sun Dec 24, 2017 2:21 am

Again, I don't know how Mike Scott can continue this. I can't think of a bettter stretch of shooting by any Wiz player who is not a center like Muresan.
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Re: GT #33: Wizards vs Magic 7:00 PM 

Post#82 » by NatP4 » Sun Dec 24, 2017 2:21 am

Satoransky with 6-5-3-1, 0 turnovers and +16 in only 17 minutes. gotta get Meeks his 20 minutes for some reason.
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Re: GT #33: Wizards vs Magic 7:00 PM 

Post#83 » by NatP4 » Sun Dec 24, 2017 2:22 am

80sballboy wrote:Again, I don't know how Mike Scott can continue this. I can't think of a bettter stretch of shooting by any Wiz player who is not a center like Muresan.


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Re: GT #33: Wizards vs Magic 7:00 PM 

Post#84 » by nate33 » Sun Dec 24, 2017 2:22 am

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nate33 wrote:Oubre with 4 assists tonight. Nice!

And Sato continues to just make good basketball plays. That was a great alley-oop pass to McCullough. Sato is +13 in 14 minutes. The rest of the team is just +11 in 32 minutes without Sato on the floor.


He's fine against backups but I'm not ready to put him in the starting lineup over Beal. That's a huge stretch there for a guy who passes first and only shoots if he has to. He is solid, which is something I wouldn't have said last season when he played very tentatively. My issue is with Meeks. I'd love to have an upgrade there to push Beal when he's not playing well.

I should have used green font on that. No, I don't think Sato should start over Wall or Beal. He's been real good though. He just makes the right basketball play over and over again. He gets the ball to the hot hand, and he attacks the defense if they start to cheat off of him. And he defends and rebounds.

Sato is good enough that Wall and Beal should get a quick hook if they're not playing the right way. It's time to hold everyone accountable.
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Re: GT #33: Wizards vs Magic 7:00 PM 

Post#85 » by 80sballboy » Sun Dec 24, 2017 2:29 am

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nate33 wrote:Oubre with 4 assists tonight. Nice!

And Sato continues to just make good basketball plays. That was a great alley-oop pass to McCullough. Sato is +13 in 14 minutes. The rest of the team is just +11 in 32 minutes without Sato on the floor.


He's fine against backups but I'm not ready to put him in the starting lineup over Beal. That's a huge stretch there for a guy who passes first and only shoots if he has to. He is solid, which is something I wouldn't have said last season when he played very tentatively. My issue is with Meeks. I'd love to have an upgrade there to push Beal when he's not playing well.

I should have used green font on that. No, I don't think Sato should start over Wall or Beal. He's been real good though. He just makes the right basketball play over and over again. He gets the ball to the hot hand, and he attacks the defense if they start to cheat off of him. And he defends and rebounds.

Sato is good enough that Wall and Beal should get a quick hook if they're not playing the right way. It's time to hold everyone accountable.


No way is Brooks going to take out Beal for Sato but maybe Wall. I'm not that high on him. He's nice off the bench. Let's see him attack the basket more and make his FTs. He makes the right pass and doesn't turn it over. You need to be more aggressive offensively to be a starter and you also need to show you can defend quick, athletic smaller point guards. Not just D.J. Augustine and Jameer Nelson.
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Re: GT #33: Wizards vs Magic 7:00 PM 

Post#86 » by AFM » Sun Dec 24, 2017 2:29 am

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Re: GT #33: Wizards vs Magic 7:00 PM 

Post#87 » by NatP4 » Sun Dec 24, 2017 2:37 am

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He's fine against backups but I'm not ready to put him in the starting lineup over Beal. That's a huge stretch there for a guy who passes first and only shoots if he has to. He is solid, which is something I wouldn't have said last season when he played very tentatively. My issue is with Meeks. I'd love to have an upgrade there to push Beal when he's not playing well.

I should have used green font on that. No, I don't think Sato should start over Wall or Beal. He's been real good though. He just makes the right basketball play over and over again. He gets the ball to the hot hand, and he attacks the defense if they start to cheat off of him. And he defends and rebounds.

Sato is good enough that Wall and Beal should get a quick hook if they're not playing the right way. It's time to hold everyone accountable.


No way is Brooks going to take out Beal for Sato but maybe Wall. I'm not that high on him. He's nice off the bench. Let's see him attack the basket more and make his FTs. He makes the right pass and doesn't turn it over. You need to be more aggressive offensively to be a starter and you also need to show you can defend quick, athletic smaller point guards. Not just D.J. Augustine and Jameer Nelson.



he's averaging 11-5-5-1 per 36 on 57% TS. Ranked 27th in RPM for small forwards (above Oubre). He makes the right play every time down the court and plays good defense and rebounds and yet you complain about the way he plays. Funny, you also say the same thing about the other player that always makes the right play, Otto Porter.

You also were campaigning for Tim Frazier(63rd in RPM for PGs, averaging 3&3 on 49% TS) because "he just runs the offense and facilitates the ball to people"
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Re: GT #33: Wizards vs Magic 7:00 PM 

Post#88 » by 80sballboy » Sun Dec 24, 2017 3:29 am

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Re: GT #33: Wizards vs Magic 7:00 PM 

Post#89 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Sun Dec 24, 2017 5:09 am

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80sballboy wrote:Again, I don't know how Mike Scott can continue this. I can't think of a bettter stretch of shooting by any Wiz player who is not a center like Muresan.


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Re: GT #33: Wizards vs Magic 7:00 PM 

Post#90 » by payitforward » Sun Dec 24, 2017 7:14 pm

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80sballboy wrote:Again, I don't know how Mike Scott can continue this. I can't think of a bettter stretch of shooting by any Wiz player who is not a center like Muresan.

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Overall, the comparison is quite apt. In both cases we are talking about a piece of luck w/ a rent-a-player. Especially in the case of Mike Scott, the better he finishes the season the closer to impossible it is for him to be back.

All the same, as good as Butler was the first part of that season, he never shot 66.4% on 2 pt. attempts the way Mike is!

For a while, though, Butler led the league in 3pt%, & he wound up overall at 38.7% -- quite good.
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Re: GT #33: Wizards vs Magic 7:00 PM 

Post#91 » by 80sballboy » Sun Dec 24, 2017 9:36 pm

That's the difference between him and Butler. He's finding all sorts of ways to score. Butler was red-hot from beyond the stripe. Scott is scoring on post-ups, ISOs, layups, dunks, three-pointers. Of course he's not going to stay that hot. But he's not just relying on shooting long-range jumpers.

He's so hot that if I put a Mike Scott Appreciate Thread because that would jinx him. :D
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Re: GT #33: Wizards vs Magic 7:00 PM 

Post#92 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Mon Dec 25, 2017 3:30 am

80sballboy wrote:That's the difference between him and Butler. He's finding all sorts of ways to score. Butler was red-hot from beyond the stripe. Scott is scoring on post-ups, ISOs, layups, dunks, three-pointers. Of course he's not going to stay that hot. But he's not just relying on shooting long-range jumpers.

He's so hot that if I put a Mike Scott Appreciate Thread because that would jinx him. :D


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Re: GT #33: Wizards vs Magic 7:00 PM 

Post#93 » by payitforward » Mon Dec 25, 2017 2:05 pm

80sballboy wrote:That's the difference between him and Butler. He's finding all sorts of ways to score. Butler was red-hot from beyond the stripe. Scott is scoring on post-ups, ISOs, layups, dunks, three-pointers. Of course he's not going to stay that hot....

Yes he is. Shut up. :)

It's not quite fair to compare Scott & Butler in the terms you use. Butler played the 2 for us. He also rebounded well for a 2, which Scott doesn't do for a 4.

Rasual was amazing. We opened that season 19-6, if you recall, powered above all by his play.

Be that as it may, I don't think I've ever seen as hot a shooter as Mike is now. He just throws it up, & in it goes! I feel shocked every time he misses a shot -- not that he misses all that many! Fun to watch him.
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Re: GT #33: Wizards vs Magic 7:00 PM 

Post#94 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Mon Dec 25, 2017 2:44 pm

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80sballboy wrote:That's the difference between him and Butler. He's finding all sorts of ways to score. Butler was red-hot from beyond the stripe. Scott is scoring on post-ups, ISOs, layups, dunks, three-pointers. Of course he's not going to stay that hot....

Yes he is. Shut up. :)

It's not quite fair to compare Scott & Butler in the terms you use. Butler played the 2 for us. He also rebounded well for a 2, which Scott doesn't do for a 4.

Rasual was amazing. We opened that season 19-6, if you recall, powered above all by his play.

Be that as it may, I don't think I've ever seen as hot a shooter as Mike is now. He just throws it up, & in it goes! I feel shocked every time he misses a shot -- not that he misses all that many! Fun to watch him.


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Re: GT #33: Wizards vs Magic 7:00 PM 

Post#95 » by payitforward » Mon Dec 25, 2017 2:54 pm

NatP4 wrote:(Sato is) averaging 11-5-5-1 per 36 on 57% TS. Ranked 27th in RPM for small forwards (above Oubre). He makes the right play every time down the court and plays good defense and rebounds and yet you complain about the way he plays. Funny, you also say the same thing about the other player that always makes the right play, Otto Porter.

You also were campaigning for Tim Frazier(63rd in RPM for PGs, averaging 3&3 on 49% TS) because "he just runs the offense and facilitates the ball to people"

Satoransky has been a revelation. Overall, he might be playing the best basketball of anyone on the team.

He's our best rebounding guard, certainly. Only Porter & Meeks turn the ball over less -- & Sato has it in his hands a lot more than they do. Plus he's got the 3d highest TS% of any Wizard -- just a tiny sliver behind Porter (with Scott on top in the stratosphere).

Admittedly, his usage is on the low side, but -- come on! -- who here thought Tomas Satoransky would be shooting the 3 at 40% & the 2 at 54% ?? He's a huge success story, which is welcome after what was a little bit of a shaky rookie season.

Sato got very few minutes & some DNPs to start the season, but now he's playing 20 minutes a game. He needs that much or more the rest of the way.

But, Nat, there's no reason to ding Frazier in order to make Sato's case. Tim is playing well too. Our problem is that Wall & Beal aren't playing all that well. But, obviously, they'll remain our starters.

Sato is showing that he can be effective at the 1, 2 or 3. The way to get him more minutes is to play Morris @5 fewer minutes each game & bump Sato @5 minutes (i.e. at the 3). Our offense would be better, & I don't see Morris as a particularly good defender either.

Now, truth be told, that's already happening. Last year, Kieff averaged 31 minutes a game; this year (in the 22 games he's played) he's averaging 23 minutes a game. Bring him down a little more & Sato up a little more, & we'd be a little bit better team.
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Re: GT #33: Wizards vs Magic 7:00 PM 

Post#96 » by payitforward » Mon Dec 25, 2017 2:58 pm

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80sballboy wrote:That's the difference between him and Butler. He's finding all sorts of ways to score. Butler was red-hot from beyond the stripe. Scott is scoring on post-ups, ISOs, layups, dunks, three-pointers. Of course he's not going to stay that hot....

Yes he is. Shut up. :)

It's not quite fair to compare Scott & Butler in the terms you use. Butler played the 2 for us. He also rebounded well for a 2, which Scott doesn't do for a 4.

Rasual was amazing. We opened that season 19-6, if you recall, powered above all by his play.

Be that as it may, I don't think I've ever seen as hot a shooter as Mike is now. He just throws it up, & in it goes! I feel shocked every time he misses a shot -- not that he misses all that many! Fun to watch him.

Clearly it was the PIF reverse curse. A “FIP” if you will.

You mean that when I predicted that some R2 pick forwards from this draft would outplay him, that was enough for him to excel? & now that I've eaten crow, he's likely to tumble? :)

Hey. I was wrong the first time. Do I have to be wrong both times for you to be happy?
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Re: GT #33: Wizards vs Magic 7:00 PM 

Post#97 » by Tricky_Kid » Mon Dec 25, 2017 4:28 pm

No Wiz- Cel GT yet??? Nate do something ! ;)

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Re: GT #33: Wizards vs Magic 7:00 PM 

Post#98 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Mon Dec 25, 2017 6:13 pm

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long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:
payitforward wrote:Yes he is. Shut up. :)

It's not quite fair to compare Scott & Butler in the terms you use. Butler played the 2 for us. He also rebounded well for a 2, which Scott doesn't do for a 4.

Rasual was amazing. We opened that season 19-6, if you recall, powered above all by his play.

Be that as it may, I don't think I've ever seen as hot a shooter as Mike is now. He just throws it up, & in it goes! I feel shocked every time he misses a shot -- not that he misses all that many! Fun to watch him.

Clearly it was the PIF reverse curse. A “FIP” if you will.

You mean that when I predicted that some R2 pick forwards from this draft would outplay him, that was enough for him to excel? & now that I've eaten crow, he's likely to tumble? :)

Hey. I was wrong the first time. Do I have to be wrong both times for you to be happy?


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