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GT #39: Wizards @ Grizzlies 9:30 PM (ESPN/NBCSW/1500 AM)

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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: GT #39: Wizards @ Grizzlies 9:30 PM (ESPN/NBCSW/1500 AM) 

Post#261 » by Tricky_Kid » Sat Jan 6, 2018 5:28 pm

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nate33 wrote:Is Meeks ever going to hit a shot this season?
What I really hate is Meeks's one hand shot ala floater always miss. Not that his 3's are better :)

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Meeks just made 15 threes in a row in a Empty gym! You have to be able to shoot amazingly to get put in the game and have a complete green light.
Cause practice streak counts right? ;)

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Re: GT #39: Wizards @ Grizzlies 9:30 PM (ESPN/NBCSW/1500 AM) 

Post#262 » by montestewart » Sat Jan 6, 2018 5:30 pm

I've been so busy lately that I haven't seen a full game in over a month, usually 4th quarter, last 5 minutes or miss entirely (usually the latter). Reading this game thread side by side with the play by play this morning was pretty entertaining. Thanks guys!
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Post#263 » by CobraCommander » Sat Jan 6, 2018 5:31 pm

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Tricky_Kid wrote:Me too :) I like him since plaoffs Vs Bulls. He was clearly on our side


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I like how he does old school play by play when something is happening then STOPs and explains why
True. His knowledge is also worth to mention. I can't stans like some of the oppositing broadcasters are talking about Sato that he is from Czechoslovakia. God damn this country isn't exist since 1993!!!
I am European so general lack of aknowledge is pissing me off.

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They make it seem like he is from Slovakia or something :)
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Post#264 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat Jan 6, 2018 5:42 pm

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NatP4 wrote:Satoransky definitely needs to be more aggressive getting downhill and creating shots for guys, but playing next to a completely useless 2 guard that can’t create his own shot or create for anyone else is hurting that unit forsure. Mike Scott is really the only shot creator on that unit. They play really good defense regardless though.

We need to find a Meeks replacement that creates his own shot and can handle the ball. We gotta go get Lou Williams.

I think just tell Tim Frazier that you are the mix replacement is also an option. Tim Frazier was a big-time score at Penn State University. I do remember following his career pretty closely.

What I don't like is that people just pigeonhole one player into a certain roll. Tim Frazier is a guard and if Meeks is struggling Meeks needs to sit and Frazier needs to play some of those minutes.

NatP4 I started the thread about Sato at PG. The very first sentence I put after that was Meeks at SG.

In a perfect world Jodie Meeks would be hitting shots like he has done throughout his career. Right now Meeks is struggling. Therefore, perhaps, the Wizards need another solution at shooting guard. Sometimes coaches let a guy play his way out of a slump. Eric Maynor never got out of his slump. Brandon Jennings never got out of his slump. Jodie Meeks is a hell of a lot better shooter than either one of those guys.

I love that Hubie Brown emphasized that Jodie Meeks has been struggling with the major thumb surgery and he is not the shooter that he is always been in the past.

I just think right now for the short run why not put Tim Frazier in place of Jodie Meeks?

It's a team everybody should play. I am pretty sure that Frazier could score the ball efficiently and effectively.

Just my opinion

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Hey CCJ - why not just go to a 9 man rotation for the time being?

I do not believe in excluding guys. My coaching experience has been with youth leagues where every player had to get some time in the game. (At least one period out of four FYI). The best youth coaches always have their best players in during crunch time.

In NBA games, I think it would be better to use 10 to 12 players, regardless, in every single game. I believe NBA coaches are eventually going to figure this out.

I don't believe in short rotations or shortening the roster. The fact that Meeks is hurting doesn't mean we need to change to the only using nine players. It doesn't make any sense to me to assume arbitrarily that a capable basketball player can't Step Up to fill in 5 minutes here and there.

I have a military background. I used to be a captain in the Air Force and I think a lot of you know that. We used to play this game called flickerball. It was like a cross between Frisbee and football with some strange rules. I coached our team in officer training school.

Long story short some of the guys played at the Air Force Academy or other college level programs. There were also females in the flight who played. And they were Joe's like me who are also on the team playing. I got to blend in very different skill levels of people.

I watch the Wizards On TV and think it's ridiculous not to have a guy like Jason Smith Get Off the Bench for 10 straight games...

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Post#265 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat Jan 6, 2018 5:44 pm

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Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Amen to the 10th degree.

He also has forgotten who Tim Frazier is.

This game we would be better off if Jason Smith had gotten mahim means minutes and if Tim Frazier had gotten Meeks minutes

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Sorry CCJ, can't agree with you on that. This is not a night for Frazier. He is too small to guard Evans at PG. Our guard play has been fine, anyhow.

Also, Smith has been horrible all season. That guy needs to hit some shots to earn playing time.
It is hard to play consistence when You play few minutes one on 5 or more games...

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That is the argument that I get and do understand. It is hard for the player to be consistent. It is hard for the coaching staff to get a consistent field for who is playing when there are so many people playing. I think I do understand.

I just would use the counter argument that everybody can bring energy Off the Bench. I would rather have energy than consistency.

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Post#266 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat Jan 6, 2018 5:46 pm

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Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:JB Bickerstaff?

I remember when Bernie Bickerstaff was the Wizards assistant coach! I think his dad even replaced Dick Motta as Washington Bullets head coach.

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I remember him after Mc Hale was fired in Houston

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The young Bickerstaff was in Houston.

I want to say the older Bickerstaff was in Denver...

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Post#267 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat Jan 6, 2018 5:54 pm

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NatP4 wrote:Satoransky definitely needs to be more aggressive getting downhill and creating shots for guys, but playing next to a completely useless 2 guard that can’t create his own shot or create for anyone else is hurting that unit forsure. Mike Scott is really the only shot creator on that unit. They play really good defense regardless though.

We need to find a Meeks replacement that creates his own shot and can handle the ball. We gotta go get Lou Williams.

I think just tell Tim Frazier that you are the mix replacement is also an option. Tim Frazier was a big-time score at Penn State University. I do remember following his career pretty closely.

What I don't like is that people just pigeonhole one player into a certain roll. Tim Frazier is a guard and if Meeks is struggling Meeks needs to sit and Frazier needs to play some of those minutes.

NatP4 I started the thread about Sato at PG. The very first sentence I put after that was Meeks at SG.

I don't think Frazier is capable of that. He has a pretty slow release on his shot and doesn't really get any separation. He's a serviceable 3-point shooter when defenses leave him wide open, but if you put him in the SG role he wouldn't draw any defensive attention on off-the-ball action. I think we're better off with Meeks in that role and just hoping that he comes out of his slump.

If you really want to get Meeks out of the lineup, I think the solution might be to play Frazier at PG, Oubre at SG and Sato at SF. Other than Beal and Meeks, Oubre is probably the most capable guy of running around off-the-ball screens and playing catch-and-shoot in a manner that forces the defense to worry about him.

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:In a perfect world Jodie Meeks would be hitting shots like he has done throughout his career. Right now Meeks is struggling. Therefore, perhaps, the Wizards need another solution at shooting guard. Sometimes coaches let a guy play his way out of a slump. Eric Maynor never got out of his slump. Brandon Jennings never got out of his slump. Jodie Meeks is a hell of a lot better shooter than either one of those guys.

I love that Hubie Brown emphasized that Jodie Meeks has been struggling with the major thumb surgery and he is not the shooter that he is always been in the past.

I didn't hear that. Very interesting. That certainly could explain the significant decline in his shooting ability.

Points noted about you thinking Tim Frazier at shooting guard doesn't drawn up defense of attention. You could be right nate.

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Post#268 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat Jan 6, 2018 5:59 pm

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Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:JB Bickerstaff?

I remember when Bernie Bickerstaff was the Wizards assistant coach! I think his dad even replaced Dick Motta as Washington Bullets head coach.

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Bernie Bickerstaff replaced Jim Lynam midseason and coached the Wizards to 8th seed (first playoffs in years) and a 1st round sweep against Jordan/Bulls. That was Webber/Howard/Stickland/etc. and things were looking up. For a second. I think that was 97 or 98.

Commenting on this again to say that when Bernie Bickerstaff took over under those circumstances he was like a relief pitcher in baseball.

A closer.

One of the things I loved about Bernie Bickerstaff when I was a little kid of about 11 or 12 years old (45 years ago) was that whenever coach Dick Motta got himself ejected from a game for arguing with officials; Bernie Bickerstaff wood almost always coach the team to a win. At least that's how I remember it. Monte, it was no accident that Bullets team in 97 or so looked so good. They had talent and good coaching. I'm sorry I had forgotten it Bernie was the coach. I thank you so much for posting who got them to the playoffs that year.

Michael Jordan's Bulls teams won like 70 games at year. He was thoroughly impressed by our young Bullets team. My remembrance of those playoffs is that Washington got swept but only because Chris Webber kept getting bogus fouls called against him. The Bulls were big money TV in terms of viewership. The officiating did not give the Wizards or excuse me Bullets any chance. As great of a coach is Bernie Bickerstaff was he could not manage to win one game in that playoff series but Washington played them tough.
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Re: GT #39: Wizards @ Grizzlies 9:30 PM (ESPN/NBCSW/1500 AM) 

Post#269 » by Shanghai Kid » Sat Jan 6, 2018 6:52 pm

The Wizards are 9-3 since Wall came back from injury.

But it seemed to be that Brooklyn loss that really turned things around. Since Dec 23rd, we have gone 6-1 and actually have the highest net rating in the league, tied with OKC. We are also the highest scoring team in the league over that span.

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