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GT #40: Bucks @ Wizards 8 PM (NBCSW/1500 AM)

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Re: RE: Re: GT #40: Bucks @ Wizards 8 PM (NBCSW/1500 AM) 

Post#141 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun Jan 7, 2018 10:00 am

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Tonight knowing that there was no Otto Porter in the lineup, if I were an NBA coach I would pick a name out of a hat and that name would be Chris McCullough because that would be the only name that I put in the hat. In front of the team for dramatic effect I would pick a name out of a hat as to who was going to start in place of Otto Porter.

Any number of choices could have been made. Instead of choosing Kelly oubre I probably would have chosen Tomas Satoransky and told him all I want you to do is defend. But I cannot argue with starting Kelly Oubre because he was really hot in the first quarter.

At the very end of the game when the score was tied at 98 that would have been a time to bring it in energizer...

I would have put Chris McCullough in at small forward at some point just to make the other team go what the f. There would not really be scripted plays and I would not expect him to know all the rotations I would just don't want him to be a live body running floor. I would have effectively played pickup basketball with McCulloch in the game.

Why do I mention Chris?

Because Giannis and Henson and those guys are long. At the end of the game the Wizards needed a guy like Chris who can jump through the gym on the floor.

This coach will never see that because he did not see that in the playoffs that he lost a Boston last season. He prefers short older vets over long, lithe athletes.

When I say play Chris McCulloch I might mean only put them in there for 1 minute or 3 minutes. Ride the wave with the hot guys what I'm trying to say. Not hot looking guy the person that is contributing to the team success.

Jodie Meeks was spectacular in pulling Beal away from Matthew dellavedova. Mix had a pretty pure shot that was dropping late in the game.

This coach did not put him back in the game because he is a creature of habit which means he's very predictable and a very average guy I don't care how much money he makes.

Same with Ernie Grunfeld GM for life.

If I sound like a hater it's probably because I am I'm 57 years old and I've been on this site for 17 years. I will never be where those guys are but when I look at them from a distance I think they're not that sharp most of them. I mean many of us could be mediocre at what we do. Many of us could do what they do just as well as they do it. However, they were Elite athletes in the first place most of them. Surely they worked to get to where they went.

But there are guys like Mike Fratello and Jeff and Stan Van Gundy who do not look like they were great Ballers to me. Every last one of them is a good damn coach.

Scott Brooks coach is very well sometimes and I'm sure he's competent. The problem is this team is not good enough to get by and win with just a merely competent coach.

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McCullough is in the G-league right now.

Sorry for those 1000 typos.

I would rather see Chris playing in the G League than sitting on the bench. (***I'm aware that Christian Wood puts up much better G League statistics than our Chris McCullough***). I would not be surprised to see Chris get released. Then again Ernie Grunfeld and the salary cap might make it no benefit to waive Chris.

Thanks for the update 80s. I guess that would explain why he couldn't have been put in the game.

Big picture: This coach isn't going to use McCullough; so, what are they doing, just wasting time sending him to G League?

If Porter is injured and Chris McCulloch is in G-League then that tells me that he has no use being on the roster. I blame Scott Brooks because I believe Chris McCullough can at least contribute.


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Re: RE: Re: GT #40: Bucks @ Wizards 8 PM (NBCSW/1500 AM) 

Post#142 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun Jan 7, 2018 10:03 am

dangermouse wrote:Yeah we broke our streak, but we're the older team on a back to back with an injured star. Lets settle down a bit guys.

If Beal wasnt so rattled at the line and sunk those two ft's on the flagrant call then we probably win. That was a turning point, there was too much me-first after that.

Yes, those two free throws are pretty much where the game was lost.

I just wish Beal could have collected himself and made those shots. Jason Terry I think got inside Beal's head by engaging in a conversation with him right before Bradley shot the free throws.

I wish we had a coach who would have immediately realized that Beal wasn't settled down. Old School coaches like Al McGuire, and John Cheney, and John Thompson and an NBA great Chuck Daly seemed to know when to create some sort of distraction. Why? To take the pressure off of their player! Jason Kidd is that kind of coach himself. I could just about see a smile on his face when all that rough house stuff was going on. I bet after the game he congratulated Matthew Dellavedova for just about injuring Bradley Beal! If the Wizards had a better Coach he would have pitched a fit and helped his own team get angry and fired up.

After the missed free throws I believe Scotty Brooks should have at least pulled Bradley Beal out of the game for a series or two. The team needed some consistency and some smart play down the end. Not the same old ISO chuck a shot from Bradley and John.

Those two missed free throws where where the momentum changed for the worst. Still a better coach could have pulled out a W.



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Re: GT #40: Bucks @ Wizards 8 PM (NBCSW/1500 AM) 

Post#143 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun Jan 7, 2018 10:46 am

Now that I have had about 6 hours to digest the results of the game; the real impact of the game is setting in.

--This could have been a huge win.

-- However, instead of creating a little space between them and the bottom have of the East -- the Wizards are now clumped in the pack of teams placed 4, 5, 6, and 7. One game separates them all.

The Wizards are still in fourth place in the East at 23 wins and 17 losses.

However, Milwaukee by defeating Washington on the road, now have 21 wins and 17 losses. They are tied in the loss column and only one game behind.

--Miami and Detroit have identical 21 and 17 records.

So, by losing the Wizards went from a clear fourth seed breathing down the back of the Cleveland Cavaliers for 3rd place, Washington's only one game ahead of 7th.

It was just one game but it was quite a let down in terms of the implications of what a win would have meant. I guess the word I'm thinking of right now is disquieting. I think that word makes sense I'm going to look it up...


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Re: GT #40: Bucks @ Wizards 8 PM (NBCSW/1500 AM) 

Post#144 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun Jan 7, 2018 11:07 am

One more game until the season is halfway over. The Wizards will either be on 46 win pace for 48 win pace.



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Re: GT #40: Bucks @ Wizards 8 PM (NBCSW/1500 AM) 

Post#145 » by DCZards » Sun Jan 7, 2018 3:50 pm

dangermouse wrote:Yeah we broke our streak, but we're the older team on a back to back with an injured star. Lets settle down a bit guys.

If Beal wasnt so rattled at the line and sunk those two ft's on the flagrant call then we probably win. That was a turning point, there was too much me-first after that.


Beal missing those 2 free throws hurt but that isn't why the Zards lost. Our inability to stop one of the top 5 players in the game is why we lost.

Zards beat the Bucks in Milw and they beat us at home. So two pretty evenly matched teams are 1-1 this season. What's the big deal? Certainly no reason for some of the overreaction and over analysis I'm reading in this thread.
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Re: GT #40: Bucks @ Wizards 8 PM (NBCSW/1500 AM) 

Post#146 » by ClutchDJ » Sun Jan 7, 2018 4:11 pm

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dangermouse wrote:Yeah we broke our streak, but we're the older team on a back to back with an injured star. Lets settle down a bit guys.

If Beal wasnt so rattled at the line and sunk those two ft's on the flagrant call then we probably win. That was a turning point, there was too much me-first after that.


Beal missing those 2 free throws hurt but that isn't why the Zards lost. Our inability to stop one of the top 5 players in the game is why we lost.

Zards beat the Bucks in Milw and they beat us at home. So two pretty evenly matched teams are 1-1 this season. What's the big deal? Certainly no reason for some of the overreaction and over analysis I'm reading in this thread.


Not to mention that Porter didn’t play.

Bucks are that one team that everyone overhypes because they have a special talent in Giannis, but fail to realize that coaching matters a lot & while Brooks isn’t the best, Kidd is atrocious. I they’ll continue to be 1st round exits until they get rid of Kidd.

Hell, I’m way more nervous about a 1st round matchup with Miami than I am Milwaukee.
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Re: GT #40: Bucks @ Wizards 8 PM (NBCSW/1500 AM) 

Post#147 » by NatP4 » Sun Jan 7, 2018 5:39 pm

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dangermouse wrote:Yeah we broke our streak, but we're the older team on a back to back with an injured star. Lets settle down a bit guys.

If Beal wasnt so rattled at the line and sunk those two ft's on the flagrant call then we probably win. That was a turning point, there was too much me-first after that.


Beal missing those 2 free throws hurt but that isn't why the Zards lost. Our inability to stop one of the top 5 players in the game is why we lost.

Zards beat the Bucks in Milw and they beat us at home. So two pretty evenly matched teams are 1-1 this season. What's the big deal? Certainly no reason for some of the overreaction and over analysis I'm reading in this thread.


What? The wizards scored 18 total points in the 4th quarter. Wall shot 5-19, one of the worst rebounding teams in the league out rebounded is. They were on the 2nd night of back to back on the road

Did you expect them to stop Giannis without Otto playing? Brooks had Jodie Meeks guarding him for an extended stretch.

Just because people criticize Brooks does not mean it’s an “overreaction or over analysis” my god. And no, those are NOT two evenly matched teams, that’s hilariously wrong.
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Re: GT #40: Bucks @ Wizards 8 PM (NBCSW/1500 AM) 

Post#148 » by dcstanley » Sun Jan 7, 2018 6:06 pm

Every so often, Beal has one of those games where he completely embarrasses himself.
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Re: GT #40: Bucks @ Wizards 8 PM (NBCSW/1500 AM) 

Post#149 » by DCZards » Sun Jan 7, 2018 6:25 pm

NatP4 wrote:Just because people criticize Brooks does not mean it’s an “overreaction or over analysis” my god. And no, those are NOT two evenly matched teams, that’s hilariously wrong.


So you believe one of these two teams is significantly better than the other? Which one...and based on what?
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Re: GT #40: Bucks @ Wizards 8 PM (NBCSW/1500 AM) 

Post#150 » by dckingsfan » Sun Jan 7, 2018 7:36 pm

Watching this game again. Our weakness is our interior D. EG's Band-Aid of Mahimni, Nicholson, Morris and Smith doesn't have any sticky - it keeps falling off.
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Re: GT #40: Bucks @ Wizards 8 PM (NBCSW/1500 AM) 

Post#151 » by Ruzious » Sun Jan 7, 2018 8:28 pm

Going into the game, I thought the Bucks would win it easily - because Porter was out and because Milwaukee came off a very ugly loss and Washington came off a win in which they showed lots of weaknesses. That was probably the most physical game I've seen all season - the officials let them play, but I thought it got out of control. And down the stretch, Morris was mauled several times without getting a call - It was maybe the first time I've felt sorry for him. He's actually played pretty well lately. The Wiz really needed a big game from Wall, and Wall's shooting just wasn't up to par. I think it's that simple. With Otto out, Wall can't have shooting nights like that. At least match what Bledsoe did - and he didn't. And you know Giannis is going to dominate - it's a given. I can't blame the coaches even a little bit. Last time I checked, Beal's a grown man. And if he's an all-star, he should rise up in a situation like that.
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Re: GT #40: Bucks @ Wizards 8 PM (NBCSW/1500 AM) 

Post#152 » by nate33 » Sun Jan 7, 2018 9:03 pm

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dangermouse wrote:Yeah we broke our streak, but we're the older team on a back to back with an injured star. Lets settle down a bit guys.

If Beal wasnt so rattled at the line and sunk those two ft's on the flagrant call then we probably win. That was a turning point, there was too much me-first after that.


Beal missing those 2 free throws hurt but that isn't why the Zards lost. Our inability to stop one of the top 5 players in the game is why we lost.

Zards beat the Bucks in Milw and they beat us at home. So two pretty evenly matched teams are 1-1 this season. What's the big deal? Certainly no reason for some of the overreaction and over analysis I'm reading in this thread.

... particularly when you factor that Otto Porter, arguably our most effective player, didn't play.
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Re: GT #40: Bucks @ Wizards 8 PM (NBCSW/1500 AM) 

Post#153 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Mon Jan 8, 2018 12:25 am

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dangermouse wrote:Yeah we broke our streak, but we're the older team on a back to back with an injured star. Lets settle down a bit guys.

If Beal wasnt so rattled at the line and sunk those two ft's on the flagrant call then we probably win. That was a turning point, there was too much me-first after that.


Beal missing those 2 free throws hurt but that isn't why the Zards lost. Our inability to stop one of the top 5 players in the game is why we lost.

Zards beat the Bucks in Milw and they beat us at home. So two pretty evenly matched teams are 1-1 this season. What's the big deal? Certainly no reason for some of the overreaction and over analysis I'm reading in this thread.


On top of that the refs didn't help. Giannis bullied his way to the hoop. Blatant offensive fouls...but in fairness, Wall gets those, too.

I agree that the best player took over, but I still believe if Beal hits those shots the Wizards would have had positive energy and momentum. They would have won if Beal didn't fail at that time IMO.
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Re: GT #40: Bucks @ Wizards 8 PM (NBCSW/1500 AM) 

Post#154 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Mon Jan 8, 2018 1:13 am

DCZards wrote:These game threads are always so laughable, especially after a loss. So much DRAMA. :)


You're kind of predictably too calm and for lack of a better word CONDESCENDING of us drama queens. :)
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Re: GT #40: Bucks @ Wizards 8 PM (NBCSW/1500 AM) 

Post#155 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Mon Jan 8, 2018 1:15 am

dlts20 wrote:Otto is too young to have all of these reoccurring back issues. I would be very hesitant to give him another deal


Hip?

I tend to worry in general. That said, John's knees and Otto's back/hip ... they concern me.
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Re: GT #40: Bucks @ Wizards 8 PM (NBCSW/1500 AM) 

Post#156 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Mon Jan 8, 2018 1:21 am

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Wizards were up double digits in the 1st moving the rock and John getting 6 assists. Its amazing how they always go away from what works or never make the defense adjust again after having early success.


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Post#157 » by dangermouse » Mon Jan 8, 2018 2:50 am

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dangermouse wrote:Yeah we broke our streak, but we're the older team on a back to back with an injured star. Lets settle down a bit guys.

If Beal wasnt so rattled at the line and sunk those two ft's on the flagrant call then we probably win. That was a turning point, there was too much me-first after that.

Yes, those two free throws are pretty much where the game was lost.

I just wish Beal could have collected himself and made those shots. Jason Terry I think got inside Beal's head by engaging in a conversation with him right before Bradley shot the free throws.

I wish we had a coach who would have immediately realized that Beal wasn't settled down. Old School coaches like Al McGuire, and John Cheney, and John Thompson and an NBA great Chuck Daly seemed to know when to create some sort of distraction. Why? To take the pressure off of their player


He was absolutely rattled by it. Old Man Terry got in his head. Beal's mental fragility is his biggest fault, now that his stress fracture problem seems to have subsided. Maybe we need a sports psychologist type or something like that, I'd even say a bit more of a veteran leader on the bench would do the job, like Pierce was.

He goes to pieces too easily, and this was after some decent shooting games fresh out of that recent slump. I wouldnt be suprised if he craps the bed against Utah because this is still on his mind.

The Big Panda needs some Zen meditation to block out all the distractions, and focus harder on himself.
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Re: GT #40: Bucks @ Wizards 8 PM (NBCSW/1500 AM) 

Post#158 » by Kanyewest » Mon Jan 8, 2018 4:30 am

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NatP4 wrote:Just because people criticize Brooks does not mean it’s an “overreaction or over analysis” my god. And no, those are NOT two evenly matched teams, that’s hilariously wrong.


So you believe one of these two teams is significantly better than the other? Which one...and based on what?


I think the Bucks are significantly better than the Wizards if Otto isn't playing.
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