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Official Trade Thread -- Part XXXVI

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Re: Official Trade Thread -- Part XXXVI 

Post#381 » by Dat2U » Fri Jul 6, 2018 4:21 pm

Dark Faze wrote:
NatP4 wrote:
Rafael122 wrote:
Interesting, kinda what we suspected here.



Sounds like they would have interest in Oubre+Mahinmi type deal


Temple for Oubre and Mahinmi without giving up our first could be a huge win. Would be ideal to see how Oubre is coming along before the deadline before pulling the trigger. I think it's a deal the Kings would do even if Oubre looks like he's barely improved to that point. If he hasn't, we can feel a lot better about letting him walk. Of course, if he looks great, we start exploring ways to free up space to extend him.


A huge win for Sacramento? Why do we consider our own guys to be only slightly better than hot trash?
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Re: Official Trade Thread -- Part XXXVI 

Post#382 » by dckingsfan » Fri Jul 6, 2018 5:30 pm

Dat2U wrote:
Dark Faze wrote:
NatP4 wrote:

Sounds like they would have interest in Oubre+Mahinmi type deal


Temple for Oubre and Mahinmi without giving up our first could be a huge win. Would be ideal to see how Oubre is coming along before the deadline before pulling the trigger. I think it's a deal the Kings would do even if Oubre looks like he's barely improved to that point. If he hasn't, we can feel a lot better about letting him walk. Of course, if he looks great, we start exploring ways to free up space to extend him.


A huge win for Sacramento? Why do we consider our own guys to be only slightly better than hot trash?

Why do we undervalue cap space?
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Re: Official Trade Thread -- Part XXXVI 

Post#383 » by popper » Fri Jul 6, 2018 9:33 pm

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Re: Official Trade Thread -- Part XXXVI 

Post#384 » by Dat2U » Fri Jul 6, 2018 10:19 pm

dckingsfan wrote:
Dat2U wrote:
Dark Faze wrote:
Temple for Oubre and Mahinmi without giving up our first could be a huge win. Would be ideal to see how Oubre is coming along before the deadline before pulling the trigger. I think it's a deal the Kings would do even if Oubre looks like he's barely improved to that point. If he hasn't, we can feel a lot better about letting him walk. Of course, if he looks great, we start exploring ways to free up space to extend him.


A huge win for Sacramento? Why do we consider our own guys to be only slightly better than hot trash?

Why do we undervalue cap space?


Um, what cap space?
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Re: Official Trade Thread -- Part XXXVI 

Post#385 » by dckingsfan » Fri Jul 6, 2018 10:29 pm

Dat2U wrote:
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Dat2U wrote:A huge win for Sacramento? Why do we consider our own guys to be only slightly better than hot trash?

Why do we undervalue cap space?

Um, what cap space?

Exactly.
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Re: Official Trade Thread -- Part XXXVI 

Post#386 » by truwizfan4evr » Fri Jul 6, 2018 11:12 pm

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Re: Official Trade Thread -- Part XXXVI 

Post#387 » by Eli Babak » Sat Jul 7, 2018 2:48 pm

Do you know what's going to happen?

- For whatever reason Melo wants to sign with the Wizards once he's bought out
- Ernie gets excited and makes few trades:

*Otto Porter & Jason Smith for Kevin Love & Kyle Korver ("talented allstar stretch big & terrific shooter")
*Kelly Oubre, Tomas Satoransky & Ian Mahinmi for Kosta Koufos & Garrett Temple ("good smart veterans (and cap savings)")

->

Wall/Rivers/Temple
Beal/Korver/Meeks
Melo/Green/Brown
Love/Morris
Howard/Koufos/Bryant


:o :banghead: :D Though next year only Wall, Beal and Brown would be under contract if everyone opt out (Korver is partially guaranteed for $3.4M). Unfortunately as we saw in 2016 no one wants to come to DC.
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Re: Official Trade Thread -- Part XXXVI 

Post#388 » by payitforward » Sat Jul 7, 2018 5:24 pm

Please don't say these things. When someone says them, they happen!
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Re: Official Trade Thread -- Part XXXVI 

Post#389 » by montestewart » Sun Jul 8, 2018 2:31 am

Eli Babak wrote:Do you know what's going to happen?

- For whatever reason Melo wants to sign with the Wizards once he's bought out
- Ernie gets excited and makes few trades:

*Otto Porter & Jason Smith for Kevin Love & Kyle Korver ("talented allstar stretch big & terrific shooter")
*Kelly Oubre, Tomas Satoransky & Ian Mahinmi for Kosta Koufos & Garrett Temple ("good smart veterans (and cap savings)")

->

Wall/Rivers/Temple
Beal/Korver/Meeks
Melo/Green/Brown
Love/Morris
Howard/Koufos/Bryant


:o :banghead: :D Though next year only Wall, Beal and Brown would be under contract if everyone opt out (Korver is partially guaranteed for $3.4M). Unfortunately as we saw in 2016 no one wants to come to DC.

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Re: Official Trade Thread -- Part XXXVI 

Post#390 » by gambitx777 » Sun Jul 8, 2018 7:52 pm

Im just saying
Rivers and Ian for melo, actually saves us a million
gives us a 4 to split time with morris and porter, and some major tax relief next summer.
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Re: Official Trade Thread -- Part XXXVI 

Post#391 » by queridiculo » Sun Jul 8, 2018 8:24 pm

gambitx777 wrote:Im just saying
Rivers and Ian for melo, actually saves us a million
gives us a 4 to split time with morris and porter, and some major tax relief next summer.


Melo's got a trade kicker, I'm pretty sure that trade would be a push, and with Howard on board this team doesn't need another sideshow.
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Re: Official Trade Thread -- Part XXXVI 

Post#392 » by dckingsfan » Sun Jul 8, 2018 8:45 pm

queridiculo wrote:
gambitx777 wrote:Im just saying
Rivers and Ian for melo, actually saves us a million
gives us a 4 to split time with morris and porter, and some major tax relief next summer.


Melo's got a trade kicker, I'm pretty sure that trade would be a push, and with Howard on board this team doesn't need another sideshow.

He can waive trade kicker, no? I would love that deal. Saving the $15M for 19-20 would be sweet. But why would OKC do that - they are trying to get out of the tax. I think there would need to be a 3rd team and some draft picks - and I don't see that happening.
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Post#393 » by WallToWall » Sun Jul 8, 2018 11:44 pm

dckingsfan wrote:
queridiculo wrote:
gambitx777 wrote:Im just saying
Rivers and Ian for melo, actually saves us a million
gives us a 4 to split time with morris and porter, and some major tax relief next summer.


Melo's got a trade kicker, I'm pretty sure that trade would be a push, and with Howard on board this team doesn't need another sideshow.

He can waive trade kicker, no? I would love that deal. Saving the $15M for 19-20 would be sweet. But why would OKC do that - they are trying to get out of the tax. I think there would need to be a 3rd team and some draft picks - and I don't see that happening.
Melo wants to go to a place where he can be a starter. I don't think we can give him that. It's a different discussion on if he is still starter material at this point in his career. If he isn't a starter with the Wizards, then imagine the chaos we would have with Melo, Howard, and whoever else. If Melo were able to accept a backup role, then no problem, do it.

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Post#394 » by 80sballboy » Mon Jul 9, 2018 4:43 pm

WallToWall wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:
queridiculo wrote:
Melo's got a trade kicker, I'm pretty sure that trade would be a push, and with Howard on board this team doesn't need another sideshow.

He can waive trade kicker, no? I would love that deal. Saving the $15M for 19-20 would be sweet. But why would OKC do that - they are trying to get out of the tax. I think there would need to be a 3rd team and some draft picks - and I don't see that happening.
Melo wants to go to a place where he can be a starter. I don't think we can give him that. It's a different discussion on if he is still starter material at this point in his career. If he isn't a starter with the Wizards, then imagine the chaos we would have with Melo, Howard, and whoever else. If Melo were able to accept a backup role, then no problem, do it.

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I'm not a fan of bringing him here, but he'd start right away at the 4 over Morris and Green. Kieff would probably backup Howard at center.
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Re: Official Trade Thread -- Part XXXVI 

Post#395 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:03 am

What about something less ambitious like Smith and Meeks for Korver?

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/7096203

We could use a 3pt specialist off the bench. Meeks was supposed to be that.
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Re: Official Trade Thread -- Part XXXVI 

Post#396 » by rl25g » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:47 am

SUPERBALLMAN wrote:What about something less ambitious like Smith and Meeks for Korver?

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/7096203

We could use a 3pt specialist off the bench. Meeks was supposed to be that.


What incentive would Cleveland have to do this
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Re: Official Trade Thread -- Part XXXVI 

Post#397 » by Eli Babak » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:38 am

rl25g wrote:
SUPERBALLMAN wrote:What about something less ambitious like Smith and Meeks for Korver?

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/7096203

We could use a 3pt specialist off the bench. Meeks was supposed to be that.


What incentive would Cleveland have to do this


Ernie would be happy to throw in a second round pick and Cavs would also save some money next year. Smith is a great cheerleader and Meeks, um, I don't know.

I doubt Ted would allow this. I think they're looking at dumping Smith & Meeks with cash at the deadline. On the other hand, if tax isn't a problem for Ted, then yeah, pull the trigger. Korver > Meeks and then sign some young dude to fight for minutes.
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Re: Official Trade Thread -- Part XXXVI 

Post#398 » by payitforward » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:59 pm

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:lol: You need to have a conversation with Lonnie Walker!

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Re: Official Trade Thread -- Part XXXVI 

Post#399 » by NatP4 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:15 am

If everyone on the Cavs besides Sexton is truly available, I would totally give them Oubre+2019 1st+Mahinmi for Larry Nance and George Hill.

Wall Hill
Beal Rivers
Sato Brown
Porter Green
Howard Nance
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Re: Official Trade Thread -- Part XXXVI 

Post#400 » by MVPofDC » Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:39 am

NatP4 wrote:If everyone on the Cavs besides Sexton is truly available, I would totally give them Oubre+2019 1st+Mahinmi for Larry Nance and George Hill.

Wall Hill
Beal Rivers
Sato Brown
Porter Green
Howard Nance


Sato as the starting 3?

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