GT #20: Wiz vs Sixers 7 PM 12/5/2019

[TheBabyMaker]

Well well. No IT and we played pretty good defense.

Without IT, I think we would have won about 2-3 more games this year.

Do they want that though?

I'd rather them build a winning mentality instead of them of looking at a higher draft pick. How long you think guys like Beal is going stand for that ****.

Just sit IT already.

[TGW]

Well well. No IT and we played pretty good defense.

Without IT, I think we would have won about 2-3 more games this year.

Do they want that though?

I'd rather them build a winning mentality instead of them of looking at a higher draft pick. How long you think guys like Beal is going stand for that ****.

Just sit IT already.

Agreed. The tanking culture is terrible for development of players.

Just play ball with the players that deserve minutes. The losses will come regardless, but the lessons learned will be even more vaulable.

[Meliorus]

Do they want that though?

I'd rather them build a winning mentality instead of them of looking at a higher draft pick. How long you think guys like Beal is going stand for that ****.

Just sit IT already.

Agreed. The tanking culture is terrible for development of players.

Just play ball with the players that deserve minutes. The losses will come regardless, but the lessons learned will be even more vaulable.

Going for it is better for the sake of being high motor and not getting used to losing. Don't think there will be a difference between picking 11th instead of 6th in a draft like this.

[TheBabyMaker]

I'd rather them build a winning mentality instead of them of looking at a higher draft pick. How long you think guys like Beal is going stand for that ****.

Just sit IT already.

Agreed. The tanking culture is terrible for development of players.

Just play ball with the players that deserve minutes. The losses will come regardless, but the lessons learned will be even more vaulable.

Going for it is better for the sake of being high motor and not getting used to losing. Don't think there will be a difference between picking 11th instead of 6th in a draft like this.

Sad thing is this year the #1 pick has yet to play a single minute in the NBA. 2nd 3rd 4th picks are putting up eh? numbers and are not moving the needle on their respective teams.

[DCZards]

Troy had one of his better all-around games tonight. 3 for 5 from the field, 2 for 3 from the line, 2 steals in just 18 mins. Had some nice assists as well as 4 boards.

Ball was in Troy's hands more often tonight than typically.

[gambitx777]

Too a team with no bench scoring, IT is attractive now.

I don't get how we have beaten Philly 10 straight times at home. That's just crazy and Yawn actually contributed. No IT probably helped as Bonga defended his ass off. Smith and Chiozza at the point. That was fun.

Philly sleptwalked through that game after they jumped out to the big lead.

Ish is better than IT. Chiozza is better defensively. Bonga and Brown Jr offer advantages minus some offense.

In short, the team's better without IT.... BUT, IT has heart and he's a potent scorer when 100%. He's got a name and is only a few 30 point games away from tradeable.

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[nate33]

I'm really curious to see how the team defends the next game.

Was the good defense tonight a result of IT and Bryant being out and Mahinmi getting some minutes at center? Or was it just that Philly has no spacing so we could pack it in, play lots of weakside help, and just hope they miss from the perimeter?

[dckingsfan]

I'm really curious to see how the team defends the next game.

Was the good defense tonight a result of IT and Bryant being out and Mahinmi getting some minutes at center? Or was it just that Philly has no spacing so we could pack it in, play lots of weakside help, and just hope they miss from the perimeter?

[Ruzious]

I'm really curious to see how the team defends the next game.

Was the good defense tonight a result of IT and Bryant being out and Mahinmi getting some minutes at center? Or was it just that Philly has no spacing so we could pack it in, play lots of weakside help, and just hope they miss from the perimeter?

Good question. I know Embiid started out the first few minutes of the game like a house a fire against Wagner, but I missed the entire rest of the game, and he must have been very ineffective after the first few minutes - with a lot of to's. I'm thinking the Wiz coaches made adjustments that the 6ers coaches failed to adjust to.

Philly could really use someone like Redick - for spacing. Or Bertans.

Btw, Ish is no star, but when he's in there, he gets the team playing good smart basketball. I'm glad they signed him.

[tontoz]

Re: Embiid

Mahinmi gave him problems. Rui also did a good job fronting him at times.

Bonga was pretty active on help D as well.

[payitforward]

What would be great -- lemonade from lemons -- would be for Mahinmi to play really well between now & the deadline, so that someone might, just maybe, want him enough for the playoffs to give us a R2 pick for him.

[Ruzious]

What would be great -- lemonade from lemons -- would be for Mahinmi to play really well between now & the deadline, so that someone might, just maybe, want him enough for the playoffs to give us a R2 pick for him.

That's Ian "The Embid Stoppa" Mahinmi. Gotta pump up his brand value.

[nate33]

What would be great -- lemonade from lemons -- would be for Mahinmi to play really well between now & the deadline, so that someone might, just maybe, want him enough for the playoffs to give us a R2 pick for him.

Impossible. His contract is too big. Somebody might want him in a buyout scenario, but few playoff teams have the ballast to trade for that contract. It would only work if we took back a 2020 contract.

[payitforward]

Well, I can't see us going for a buyout scenario in which we took back a 2020 contract.

But, we could take back an expiring salary, that would be fine. Still gotta bring a R2 pick of course!

Don't get me wrong -- I can't right off think of a potential trade partner. It'd have to be a team with a guy or guys to get rid of & with a need for a defensive-minded center.

[nate33]

Well, I can't see us going for a buyout scenario in which we took back a 2020 contract.

But, we could take back an expiring salary, that would be fine. Still gotta bring a R2 pick of course!

Don't get me wrong -- I can't right off think of a potential trade partner. It'd have to be a team with a guy or guys to get rid of & with a need for a defensive-minded center.

One idea that came to mind involves Portland. If they get Nurkic and he is playing well, they might prefer a low usage defensive minded guy like Mahinmi instead of Whiteside. We could send them Mahinmi and Miles for Whiteside and absorb $3.3M in the process. They're way in the luxtax so that's lie a $10M savings for them. How much would Portland chip in to make that deal happen?

I'd like it even more if we could send Whiteside to another team in exchange for even more worthless players, but that's a tall order. The only more worthless player on an equivalent expiring contract is Chandler Parsons.

[payitforward]

Excellent, nate! Assume that a R2 pick in the 30's has a value of $3m. Ceteris parabus, that would be what they'd have chip in.

OTOH, they've already paid part of that $$ delta; that would lower what they'd need to chip in. But... the tax savings nullifies that & more. Since they can buy R2 picks in the next 3 drafts with that $$, perhaps they'd need to chip in 2 R2 picks in the trade.

Challenge: what are some trade scenarios useful to us that could lead to our acquiring Chandler Parsons?

[Meliorus]

I'm really curious to see how the team defends the next game.

Was the good defense tonight a result of IT and Bryant being out and Mahinmi getting some minutes at center? Or was it just that Philly has no spacing so we could pack it in, play lots of weakside help, and just hope they miss from the perimeter?

The defense from Wagner/Bryant to Mahinmi is night and day. Having a non 5' 7" player on the court allows for much more deflection opportunities etc, I haven't seen the Wizards poke so many balls away in a long time.

[gambitx777]

Ian's out with a strain injury

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[long suffrin' boulez fan]

Ian's out with a strain injury

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Seriously?