Slather me, Lather me, Blather me - 2011 Draft Thread 5

dobrojim · Post #101 » by **dobrojim** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:36 pm

WD seems to think that after he makes a post, they disappear into thin air, leaving no traces of what he previously said.

reminds me of a lot of politicians

WizarDynasty · Post #102 » by **WizarDynasty** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:38 pm

TGW wrote:
tontoz wrote:
WizarDynasty wrote:Derrick Williams is an offensive wing player. Minnesota knows that and they know that he is not much of an upgrade over Beasley.
We spent 3 years of torture to build McGee into a top notch center, olympic invite, top shotblocker adn rebounder in the league with the ability to score in the post and in transition. .

You were the one saying that he was a bad draft pick and that the Wizards should have taken DeAndre Jordan instead.

WD seems to think that after he makes a post, they disappear into thin air, leaving no traces of what he previously said.

WizD -- bro...you do remember the non-stop McGee bashing you were doing for months? It wasn't that long ago.

Not saying that realgm has any kind of pull with the wizards but my point of bashing our bigman coach was so either ted gets us a results producing bigman coach or Eugene Banks starts forcing his bigs to show elite post footwork. Guess what, it magically happened in the last part of the season and I am DC Wiz/Bullets fan to the core. When i saw McGee improve dramatically I was quite satisfied because Dc finally had a center with upside both offensively and defensively that was actually being realized.
I bashed on EG to but he went out and addressed the needs that i had for the team. I still think we can get our 3 and d player and post banger off the bench but McGee showed excellent post footwork and was force for the first time in his life in the post.
I like Dontas by the way and hope we can get another teens pick to grab him after we grab Tyler.

Liverbird · Post #103 » by **Liverbird** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:55 pm

Not a big fan of the Blatche/Kanter/Williams post combination - McGee however would be great with either Kanter or Williams. We'd have very little post protection with that rotation.

Ed Wood · Post #104 » by **Ed Wood** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:56 pm

So you are saying that realgm has sway with the team, or you do or... something. You are saying something.

Anyway, a website, draft material within: http://www.grantland.com/

When you see a frontpage article titled "Rock Vorp" you know, this is home.

SUPERBALLMAN · Post #105 » by **SUPERBALLMAN** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:04 pm

I think we should stay at 6. I like Kanter, and if he's gone I could be sold on Valanciunas. Most scouts seem to think he's going to be better.

He can stay overseas & develop a year, all our young guys can get a year better along with our other 2 picks. Next year add Val & someone like Barnes.

keynote · Post #106 » by **keynote** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:16 pm

More from Kanter re: his team-crush for the Wizards:

Mike Prada wrote: "I would love to go to D.C. It doesn't matter which team, but I would love to go to D.C. It's [an] international city, and Obama loves basketball. I would love to play with John Wall. I think it's a great team."

http://www.bulletsforever.com/2011/6/22 ... ut-i-would

Man, I can't remember the last time I saw a player (draft prospect, FA, or otherwise) nakedly flirt with the Wizards as brazenly as Kanter is right now. Us Wizards fans lack the player-dating experience or social skills to avoid falling too hard and too fast for a smooth talker like this.

All of this batting of eyelashes and flashing of thigh is making me feel uncomfortable.

Cramer · Post #107 » by **Cramer** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:25 pm

keynote wrote:More from Kanter re: his team-crush for the Wizards:

Mike Prada wrote: "I would love to go to D.C. It doesn't matter which team, but I would love to go to D.C. It's [an] international city, and Obama loves basketball. I would love to play with John Wall. I think it's a great team."

http://www.bulletsforever.com/2011/6/22 ... ut-i-would

Man, I can't remember the last time I saw a player (draft prospect, FA, or otherwise) nakedly flirt with the Wizards as brazenly as Kanter is right now. Us Wizards fans lack the player-dating experience or social skills to avoid falling too hard and too fast for a smooth talker like this.

All of this batting of eyelashes and flashing of thigh is making me feel uncomfortable.

It is a nice change of pace, ain't it? It gives me a little tingle.....

Liverbird · Post #108 » by **Liverbird** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:26 pm

KANTER: The BRO'MANCE - Begins 6/23/2011

TGW · Post #109 » by **TGW** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:32 pm

Liverbird wrote:Not a big fan of the Blatche/Kanter/Williams post combination - McGee however would be great with either Kanter or Williams. We'd have very little post protection with that rotation.

I think Hoopalotta "blathered" about it earlier...Kanter is probably going to turn out into a full-time center. He's 6'11, 260--and he had to get in great shape to get down to that. Imagine he grows another inch or so...he'll be Dwight Howard sized. I don't think there's much of a chance he can play power forward....maybe in stretches but I doubt it'll be full-time. I don't see a McGee/Kanter frontline being plausible.

Of course it would be a nice problem to have.

Liverbird · Post #110 » by **Liverbird** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:37 pm

TGW wrote:
Liverbird wrote:Not a big fan of the Blatche/Kanter/Williams post combination - McGee however would be great with either Kanter or Williams. We'd have very little post protection with that rotation.

I think Hoopalotta "blathered" about it earlier...Kanter is probably going to turn out into a full-time center. He's 6'11, 260--and he had to get in great shape to get down to that. Imagine he grows another inch or so...he'll be Dwight Howard sized. I don't think there's much of a chance he can play power forward....maybe in stretches but I doubt it'll be full-time. I don't see a McGee/Kanter frontline being plausible.

Of course it would be a nice problem to have.

My concern is protecting the rim. I'm not as much worried about his size - but the inability for Blatche and Kanter to provide a shotblocking threat. Neither really has the athleticism to provide that capability.

jivelikenice · Post #111 » by **jivelikenice** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:47 pm

I agree with that. Kanter may have the bulk to play center but not the shot blocking ability. I think a McGee/ Kanter could work ideally because what one doesn't have, the other brings to the table.

Illuminaire · Post #112 » by **Illuminaire** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:49 pm

Marc Gasol did a decent job for Memphis. They didn't block many shots, but they contested them. Good positional defense and smart players following a scheme can do enough to deter driving players.

I mean, ideally you want a shot blocking big who does those things too. But you can get by with savvy defenders who make sure they're in the right place, making shots difficult.

Illuminaire · Post #113 » by **Illuminaire** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:51 pm

jivelikenice wrote:I agree with that. Kanter may have the bulk to play center but not the shot blocking ability. I think a McGee/ Kanter could work ideally because what one doesn't have, the other brings to the table.

I think that if Javale gets his head on straight and plays disciplined defense, that would be a phenomenal pairing. There's risk involved, but so very much potential synergy. (Even with rebounding... wide body + high flyer)

keynote · Post #114 » by **keynote** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:00 pm

Kanter is *killing* me right now.

http://www.bulletsforever.com/2011/6/22 ... est-player
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2011/6/22/2 ... nes-kanter

Mike Prada wrote:Kanter on how he'd respond to people who were worried about how little he played last year (this I found interesting).

Kanter wrote:"I'm not worried about anything. Even if I could have played, I would have just played like, 22-24 games, because we'd have won many games by 30. I don't think I missed anything."

JAR69 · Post #115 » by **JAR69** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:08 pm

OK, so how about this pie-in-the-sky proposal:

McGee for #2, take Kanter.
Trade #6 down to either Charlotte or Detroit, pick Biyombo. (If we can't trade, pick BB anyway.)

Wall/Crawford
Young/Crawford
Lewis/
Baltche/Biyombo/Booker
Kanter/Baltche/Seraphin

Insanely young, inexperienced team. (How many guys too young to drink on that team?) Probably wins 25 games next year. But as Biyombo develops, we would have the shotblocking we lose by trading McGee. And get better defense. Kanter provides the low blocks offense, Lewis and Young outside shooting.

DCZards · Post #116 » by **DCZards** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:14 pm

SUPERBALLMAN wrote:I think we should stay at 6. I like Kanter, and if he's gone I could be sold on Valanciunas. Most scouts seem to think he's going to be better.

He can stay overseas & develop a year, all our young guys can get a year better along with our other 2 picks. Next year add Val & someone like Barnes.

I'm never really comfortable drafting a foreigner, like Val. First, very few of them have lived up to the hype. And I'm uneasy with the theory that they'll be joining the team "after another year developing overseas." Far too often, I've seen that one year turn into 2-3 years. I say use the 6th pick to draft someone who will be on the roster next season.

I'd be happy with Leonard, who has the desire and physical skillset that it takes to be an outstanding player at the next level ...or even Tristan Thompson, who I think could be a sleeper. Thompson is raw as hell offensively, but he already has a big, strong body that he moves well, especially on D. Now, if he can only work on that FT shooting.

Post #117 » by **nate33** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:21 pm

I'm with WizD on this one. We should keep McGee. You win championships with mature versions of Mcgee. You don't win them with Al Harrington clones like Williams. And it's far too soon to worry about the logjam at center with Kanter and Mcgee. How many rookie centers play more than 20-24 minutes a game? By the time Kanter is a bonafide starting caliber center, Mcgee will be capable of PF duties on D. Either that, or one of them will be used as trade bait for a star-caliber player. Having two good centers is a good thing.

REDardWIZskin · Post #118 » by **REDardWIZskin** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:32 pm

Soooo.... I just watched the Motiejunas highlight tape on WP.com. I didnt know he was as athletic as he is, he even had some plays where he put the ball on the floor by using his pump fake and finished with contact several times. I think if he falls to 18 and Faried and Morris are gone than I wouldn't mind taking him if he is the shooter that he is reported to be. He doesn't rebound well but he could be useful in the pick and pop game like Yi was supposed to be and his motor is also very high. Im in the KL/ Tristan Thompson camp at 6 though assuming we don't get Kanter. No to Vesely. Yes to Valuncias if we can get another 1st rd pick through trade back or trading Blatche. Have a look for yourselves...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFqK-YXl ... r_embedded

Illuminaire · Post #119 » by **Illuminaire** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:39 pm

Motie looks like a fantastic bench player. Probably a disappointment if you wanted a starter, since all reports indicate that he plays to the very definition of "soft."

If Faried/Morris are gone, then sure, that's a good value pick.

closg00 · Post #120 » by **closg00** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:44 pm

Illuminaire wrote:Motie looks like a fantastic bench player. Probably a disappointment if you wanted a starter, since all reports indicate that he plays to the very definition of "soft."

If Faried/Morris are gone, then sure, that's a good value pick.

+1 Would love to have Donatas or Vucevic on our bench, but seriously doubt either will be around at 18 if Vesely is going in the top-10.