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Re: Bradley Beal 

Post#101 » by go'stags » Sat Jun 30, 2012 5:34 pm

OKC actually traded up to the pick after ours, then when we picked Seraphin they traded that pick away.
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Re: Bradley Beal 

Post#102 » by The Consiglieri » Sun Jul 1, 2012 7:33 pm

WashWiz54 wrote:I wasn't sold on Beal until a couple days ago when I started listening to his interviews (most notably on The Fan a couple days ago). He sound like he knows what he can do, what he has to do, and knows it won't be an easy path. Humble, smart, and dedicated. Those are the qualities you look for (along with God given talent) in a difference maker.

I thought Lamb > Beal for quite awhile now, but I'm slowly backing off. I think both will end up as very good players in this league. I'd of been happy with a trade-down while picking Lamb, but I'm just as happy with Beal.

And just my opinion: Harrison Barnes will be a pretty dang good player. I know, I know this is a Beal thread but I just had to throw it out there. ;)


The word on Beal on all the giant trash can sized piles of media speak I unearthed the last six months has been:

BBIQ-Outstanding
Coachability: Outstanding
Character: Outstanding
Jump Shot/3: Outstanding (though iffy in first half of Florida Season)
Finishing: Solid
Athleticism: Above average
Defense: Solid
Decision Making: Outstanding

The sense with him has always been that at the next level he will be a picture perfect executor of the job of a 2. He will also help a ton w/team chemistry, and professionalism. He will be able to score no problem, and should contribute all across the stat line. He won't bring superstar potential, but you'll lock up your 2 position with a very good player for the forseeable future. He's a third piece on a very good team or better, not a top 2 piece, which is our main issue.

I think Barnes will be at worst, solid to good at the next level, but I definitely do not think he will be elite, has the raw ability to be so, but lacks the junkyard mentality or competitive edge necessary, plus lacks some tools as well. He should help Golden State a ton though.
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Re: Bradley Beal 

Post#103 » by hands11 » Sun Jul 1, 2012 7:51 pm

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Just food for thought: Seraphin was also another guy that the Spurs were interested in (and another team... may have even been OKC, hard to remember from a year ago). That worked out well for us... so there ya go.


Portland was trying to trade up for him.


So wait.

SA wanted Kevin, we got him
They wanted Beal, we got him
We had Mason and they took him from us/we let him walk.

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Are you saying the Ted/EG are selecting players similar to that which SA would take ? Cuz it seems like the facts actually say that. :D You'll do know Ted purchased into that advanced metrics system that some teams are using right.

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Very nice. Very nice indeed.
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Re: Bradley Beal 

Post#104 » by dobrojim » Sun Jul 1, 2012 9:00 pm

hands11 wrote:
GUYANNAGRIZZLI wrote:Glad Bobcats draft the wrong guy again
Wiz aquired a futur all-star and best scorer of this draft
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They drafted the right guy for them. MKGs motor and will to win is exactly what they needed. Even with a questionable J. They picked correctly. Him or Robinson were the right pick for them. Beal was the right pick for the Wizards.

Since Ted has purchased the the Ted, we have seen some lucky moments.


I wonder how happy MKG will be in CHA. We know he hates to lose. He's going
to have to endure a lot of that. I doubt CHA gets any good any time soon.
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Re: Bradley Beal 

Post#105 » by BruceO » Sun Jul 1, 2012 10:15 pm

dobrojim wrote:
hands11 wrote:
GUYANNAGRIZZLI wrote:Glad Bobcats draft the wrong guy again
Wiz aquired a futur all-star and best scorer of this draft
Ernie is a intelligent GM


They drafted the right guy for them. MKGs motor and will to win is exactly what they needed. Even with a questionable J. They picked correctly. Him or Robinson were the right pick for them. Beal was the right pick for the Wizards.

Since Ted has purchased the the Ted, we have seen some lucky moments.


I wonder how happy MKG will be in CHA. We know he hates to lose. He's going
to have to endure a lot of that. I doubt CHA gets any good any time soon.


Out of all the draft scenarios mkg got into the worst out of all the top picks. Everyone else has another good young player besides them
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Re: Bradley Beal 

Post#106 » by verbal8 » Mon Jul 2, 2012 12:31 pm

BruceO wrote:Out of all the draft scenarios mkg got into the worst out of all the top picks. Everyone else has another good young player besides them


If Gordon returns to form he could help some, but overall it doesn't look like a good situation for any rookie.
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Post#107 » by BruceO » Mon Jul 2, 2012 10:39 pm

verbal8 wrote:
BruceO wrote:Out of all the draft scenarios mkg got into the worst out of all the top picks. Everyone else has another good young player besides them


If Gordon returns to form he could help some, but overall it doesn't look like a good situation for any rookie.


Mkg and Davis are the only ones who have to be the man...Davis at least has help where mkg barely does and another thing is it was the worst record in the league where new Orleans was better than ours theoretically due to the record. Beal has wall and others and doesn't have to be the man, waiters got Irving, Robinson got cousins, Lillard got aldridge, barnes got curry and bogut....

Sucks for mkg because I think charlottes rebuild will be the longest and if I was him I'd opt out first chance I get
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Re: Bradley Beal 

Post#108 » by Knighthonor » Tue Jul 3, 2012 3:04 am

I am interested more about Beal vs Crawford.

if Crawford steps up his game, he can be a nice star on this team.
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Post#109 » by 7-Day Dray » Tue Jul 3, 2012 4:01 am

Knighthonor wrote:if Crawford steps up his game, he can be a nice star on this team.


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Post#110 » by Nivek » Tue Jul 3, 2012 12:58 pm

Knighthonor wrote:
if Crawford steps up his game, he can be a nice star on this team.


Same was true of AJ English and Charles Jones.
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Post#111 » by Severn Hoos » Tue Jul 3, 2012 1:02 pm

Hey now, those guys made the 1989-90 Bullets what they were!

Oh wait.....




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Post#112 » by fishercob » Tue Jul 3, 2012 2:41 pm

Knighthonor wrote:
if Crawford steps up his game, he can be a nice star on this team.


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Post#113 » by Severn Hoos » Tue Jul 3, 2012 2:45 pm

fishercob wrote:
Knighthonor wrote:
if Crawford steps up his game, he can be a nice star on this team.


if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.


You now, these days, apparently that can be arranged.
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Re: Bradley Beal 

Post#114 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Jul 3, 2012 3:16 pm

Knighthonor wrote:I am interested more about Beal vs Crawford.

if Crawford steps up his game, he can be a nice star on this team.

The Wizards drafted Beal #3 to take Crawford's job. Jordan Crawford does not seem like the type to accept a sixth man role. He can score points in a hurry, but he is too inefficient for me to appreciate what he brings. For that reason, I am on the trade Crawford bandwagon.

There are teams probably pursuing Crawford. My hope is the Wizards can get a guy like Kevin Martin, even if for only one season to play in front of Beal. If no trade goes down I think Cartier and Mo Almond both could spell minutes around starter Brad Beal (and probably do just as well for a while).
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Post#115 » by REDardWIZskin » Tue Jul 3, 2012 4:00 pm

I think you all are underrating Crawford a bit, he's only been around for two seasons.For as much as we give Wall a pass for not having a structured team to grow under Crawford has had the same experiences. I don't think its impossible that he could improve his game enough to hold off Beal until about Jan or Feb. I'm very excited to see how he, Singleton and hopefully Mack (when we bring in another PG) respond to having to actually having earn minutes.
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Post#116 » by DCZards » Tue Jul 3, 2012 4:02 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:The Wizards drafted Beal #3 to take Crawford's job. Jordan Crawford does not seem like the type to accept a sixth man role. He can score points in a hurry, but he is too inefficient for me to appreciate what he brings. For that reason, I am on the trade Crawford bandwagon.

There are teams probably pursuing Crawford. My hope is the Wizards can get a guy like Kevin Martin, even if for only one season to play in front of Beal. If no trade goes down I think Cartier and Mo Almond both could spell minutes around starter Brad Beal (and probably do just as well for a while).


Crawford was unhappy when he was taken out of the starting lineup for a game or two last season, but I think the verdict is still out on whether or not he'd accept a sixth man role. He could see it as an opportunity to be "the man" on the second unit.

I wouldn't trade for Kevin Martin because we'd be picking up a player who has been a longtime starter (and a top scorer)....someone who would be even less likely than Crawford to accept coming off the bench behind Beal. I say let Crawford and Beal battle for the starting job starting with training camp rather than taking on Martin as a one season rental.
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Post#117 » by tontoz » Tue Jul 3, 2012 6:34 pm

I am pretty sure Crawford will be starting, at least in the beginning of the season until Beal gets his feet wet.

Crawford is a serial chucker no doubt but he does have legit talent and has two years left on his cheap rookie deal. Even though i think he is probably not going to change i would be reluctant to trade him now. Talent isn't that easy to come by.
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Post#118 » by Nivek » Tue Jul 3, 2012 6:59 pm

Through two seasons, Crawford's career is a lot like Flip Murray's. Murray's usage rate declined as he got older, but his efficiency never got much better. He never became a good 3pt shooter. Crawford is the kind of guy to have around until someone better can be found. Beal ought to be better quickly. The Wizards should be able to replace what Crawford does pretty easily -- he was at replacement level (in my stuff, that means he was at about the level of the 300th player in the league -- the 30th ranked 10th man) last season.
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Post#119 » by GhostsOfGil » Tue Jul 3, 2012 7:12 pm

Good Billy Donavon interview about Beal Parmesan.
His steller character continues to shine through in absolutely every report I've read/heard.

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Post#120 » by tontoz » Tue Jul 3, 2012 7:20 pm

Nivek wrote:Through two seasons, Crawford's career is a lot like Flip Murray's. Murray's usage rate declined as he got older, but his efficiency never got much better. He never became a good 3pt shooter. Crawford is the kind of guy to have around until someone better can be found. Beal ought to be better quickly. The Wizards should be able to replace what Crawford does pretty easily -- he was at replacement level (in my stuff, that means he was at about the level of the 300th player in the league -- the 30th ranked 10th man) last season.



Funny you bring up Murray. When the Hawks signed him for the vet min for the 08/09 season i wasn't happy since he had been an inefficient chucker his whole career. Then out of the blue he comes up with his career season, a TS of 54.3%. I was stunned. He came up big in the clutch time and again. He was probably the best free agent signing that year dollar for dollar.

The Hawks let him walk and he went right back to his old self the following season, out of the NBA the year after that.
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