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Re: Wizards @ Spurs 8:30PM 

Post#101 » by hands11 » Sun Feb 3, 2013 3:58 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:hands, when they fire Randy I guaran-damn-tee you the next coach won't win ISH with this team, either.


I guess that would depend on who the coach is.

What I do know is he is not getting the most from the roster. He is actually hurting.
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Re: Wizards @ Spurs 8:30PM 

Post#102 » by w dumseld » Sun Feb 3, 2013 3:58 am

I'm with you Hands. Witt is not qualified to be an NBA coach. Good assistant. Its the Peter Principle if you are familiar with it. But on the other hand, I think he does deserve credit for getting these guys to play hard. That was EJs strength also. Hopefully, this all has a purpose and we get a good draft pick, a new coach and a decent GM.
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Re: Wizards @ Spurs 8:30PM 

Post#103 » by Upper Decker » Sun Feb 3, 2013 3:59 am

Wow the offense sucks, well the team sucks. Down the stretch 4 3-point shots by 3 poor 3-point shooters.
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Re: Wizards @ Spurs 8:30PM 

Post#104 » by TGW » Sun Feb 3, 2013 3:59 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:hands, when they fire Randy I guaran-damn-tee you the next coach won't win ISH with this team, either.

Splitter v Nene is not on Randy. Duncan is just a leeeetle bit better than Okafor. Crawford can take 30 shots and they won't beat SA.

The Spurs shoot too well, defend too well, and there isn't firepower on this roster.


This is pretty much common sense. Only hands is delusional enough to think another coach could do better with this roster.
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Re: Wizards @ Spurs 8:30PM 

Post#105 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun Feb 3, 2013 4:01 am

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Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:dandridge, it always come down to the architect when a building collapses due to faulty design.

Why can't they score when it counts? Ariza, Okafor, injured Nene … those guys have the experience and they make the money. Ernie acquired them.


Agreed. The Wizards can't score because Ernie stocked the team with a bunch of nice, hardworking guys that just can't shoot.


But, man, what great character those guys have! Nene seems like a deacon or future minister. Okafor seems like a college professor type. Ariza seems like a regional youth camp director. They are so much better dudes than Andray and Javale, and they have substance and depth that Nick Young doesn't.

Ted and Ernie knee jerked (or, as they say in the military) circle jerked together to make SURE they were no longer an embarrassment around the league. These are some stand up dudes. Randy is a stand up coach. This team has great character.

Well done on what they wanted to achieve.

Winning? Uhh, no.
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Post#106 » by jivelikenice » Sun Feb 3, 2013 4:03 am

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jivelikenice wrote:Néne back in....spacing does...

Even though he's just one big, he's just slow and doesn't move we'll without the ball so the big that's guarding him just sits back.


The Wizards run died before Nene came in. As soon as Splitter came in (before Nene), the Spurs got two or three layups in a row to go back up by 12. Nene came in and played just fine. It was 2 turnovers by Wall and a bunch of bricked open 3s that did the Wizards in.

Small ball helped the Wiz get back in the game. I don't know if that would have worked as well if Duncan didn't go out with an injury.

Ultimately, the Wizards lost for the same reason they always lose...the inability to score when it counts.


Agreed. Big misses when the opportunities presented themselves. Beals absence hurt tonight. Néne played fine near the end when he started higher on his roll and got his momentum going to the hoop.
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Re: Wizards @ Spurs 8:30PM 

Post#107 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun Feb 3, 2013 4:04 am

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Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:hands, when they fire Randy I guaran-damn-tee you the next coach won't win ISH with this team, either.

Splitter v Nene is not on Randy. Duncan is just a leeeetle bit better than Okafor. Crawford can take 30 shots and they won't beat SA.

The Spurs shoot too well, defend too well, and there isn't firepower on this roster.


This is pretty much common sense. Only hands is delusional enough to think another coach could do better with this roster.


hands, I have much respect for you. I know you see something that in your mind Randy could be doing a LOT BETTER.

I think even with what you see this team without healthy Nene and Beal sucks.
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Post#108 » by jivelikenice » Sun Feb 3, 2013 4:05 am

I don't expect this from Singleton nightly, but there was no reason for him not to get any pt the last few weeks....
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Post#109 » by hands11 » Sun Feb 3, 2013 4:07 am

TGW wrote:
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:hands, when they fire Randy I guaran-damn-tee you the next coach won't win ISH with this team, either.

Splitter v Nene is not on Randy. Duncan is just a leeeetle bit better than Okafor. Crawford can take 30 shots and they won't beat SA.

The Spurs shoot too well, defend too well, and there isn't firepower on this roster.


This is pretty much common sense. Only hands is delusional enough to think another coach could do better with this roster.


Last I checked I think the board has a policy against personal attack and name calling of members.

If you oppose my view fine. Make your case. Name calling doesn't do that.
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Re: Wizards @ Spurs 8:30PM 

Post#110 » by 80sballboy » Sun Feb 3, 2013 4:07 am

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dandridge 10 wrote:
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:dandridge, it always come down to the architect when a building collapses due to faulty design.

Why can't they score when it counts? Ariza, Okafor, injured Nene … those guys have the experience and they make the money. Ernie acquired them.


Agreed. The Wizards can't score because Ernie stocked the team with a bunch of nice, hardworking guys that just can't shoot.


But, man, what great character those guys have! Nene seems like a deacon or future minister. Okafor seems like a college professor type. Ariza seems like a regional youth camp director. They are so much better dudes than Andray and Javale, and they have substance and depth that Nick Young doesn't.

Ted and Ernie knee jerked (or, as they say in the military) circle jerked together to make SURE they were no longer and embarrassment around the league. These are some stand up dudes. Randy is a stand up coach. This team has great character.

Well done on what they wanted to achieve.

Winning? Uhh, no.


I'd rather lose with professors and deacons than lose with clowns and knuckleheads. If Beal and Wall were healthy, I think we'd at least be competitive this year. All the other guys are just role players, some very bad ones. When Nene is healthy, he's really a good player. Of course, he's not as good as Duncan and it's no surprise that he couldn't score against him. But I'd take him over most of the big men in the league. Okafor has surprised me that he still has something left in the tank.

Really not unhappy with this loss. The first half was embarrassing but overall what do you guys expect against a team that won 10 straight games that had a few days of rest while we just played Memphis? I expected a 20-point loss with Duncan. Fire the coach. Fire the GM? Fire the owner!
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Re: Wizards @ Spurs 8:30PM 

Post#111 » by Dat2U » Sun Feb 3, 2013 4:08 am

Instead of saying "let's get veterans", "let's get good citizens", it might have ideal to focus on actually getting good players.
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Re: Wizards @ Spurs 8:30PM 

Post#112 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun Feb 3, 2013 4:10 am

hands11 wrote:I'm done with Randy.

He really just has no clue about who to play with whom and when.

You can see what works. Its obvious. Stop feeding Nene in the post. It doesn't work. He is much better on high pick and roll plays where he is moving toward the baskets.

Finally Ves saw some minutes and you could see how he helped. Then you don't see him ago. Singleton comes in and totally beasts. But he never uses him either. Wall isolations work. He needs to do them a lot more. Etc. Etc. He would get close with some line ups but even then he would be a player off.

He never played a set that got Okafor in a rhythm and he has been a beast lastly. He doesn't take advantage of what Crawford can do.

Temple should never have started at SG and yet he still started him for the 2nd. He puts the team in a hole that is to big to overcome before stumbling into something that works. And then he puts Nene back in.

He just doesn't understand what is a good line up where the players compliment each other and the offense he has been running feeding Nene is the post is terrible.

He is what EFJ was. A good assistant that is not a good head coach.

Please fire him at the All Star break.


SHOCKER ALERT: hands, I say why wait?

Randy is a good man and he has done his best. Fire him now and bring in a different coach. These guys have lost hope and are about to devolve into selfish play, bickering, etc. Wittman can't bark at them and get anything else. They probably are blaming him like you are.

Fire him. I like Wittman a lot and this is on Ted and Ernie. Give the coach his papers and let Newman steer the Titanic. Why not?

But TED LEONSIS, YOU NEED TO MAN UP AND FIRE YOUR BOY, EG, TOO!!!!
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Post#113 » by hands11 » Sun Feb 3, 2013 4:10 am

jivelikenice wrote:I don't expect this from Singleton nightly, but there was no reason for him not to get any pt the last few weeks....


That was really nice to see.

He looked confident. He made some nice plays. Very balanced when shooting. Nice step back. The young man actually looked talented out there.
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Post#114 » by 80sballboy » Sun Feb 3, 2013 4:10 am

jivelikenice wrote:I don't expect this from Singleton nightly, but there was no reason for him not to get any pt the last few weeks....


Did you watch him play in December? He was terrible. Not sure what he's doing in practice but it looked as though he lost all confidence in his jumper and wasn't even defending that well. One game doesn't mean he's great but it's basically Tweedle Dee (Singleton), Tweedle Fragile (Booker) or Tweedle Dum (Vesely). Go with Singleton for now at the backup 4.
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Post#115 » by 80sballboy » Sun Feb 3, 2013 4:12 am

hands11 wrote:
jivelikenice wrote:I don't expect this from Singleton nightly, but there was no reason for him not to get any pt the last few weeks....


That was really nice to see.

He looked confident. He made some nice plays. Very balanced when shooting. Nice step back. The young man actually looked talented out there.


It's not like he's never showed that. He started last year and showed glimpses. But he's never shown any consistency. Hope he gets it together because you can't rely on Booker (fragile) or Vesely (can't play).
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Re: Wizards @ Spurs 8:30PM 

Post#116 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun Feb 3, 2013 4:13 am

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jivelikenice wrote:I don't expect this from Singleton nightly, but there was no reason for him not to get any pt the last few weeks....


Did you watch him play in December? He was terrible. Not sure what he's doing in practice but it looked as though he lost all confidence in his jumper and wasn't even defending that well. One game doesn't mean he's great but it's basically Tweedle Dee (Singleton), Tweedle Fragile (Booker) or Tweedle Dum (Vesely). Go with Singleton for now at the backup 4.


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Post#117 » by nate33 » Sun Feb 3, 2013 4:13 am

Just tuned in...

9 points in the 2nd quarter? Seriously?

I'm glad I missed that.
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Post#118 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun Feb 3, 2013 4:16 am

nate33 wrote:Just tuned in...

9 points in the 2nd quarter? Seriously?

I'm glad I missed that.


Me, too! :D
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Re: Wizards @ Spurs 8:30PM 

Post#119 » by 80sballboy » Sun Feb 3, 2013 4:17 am

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hands11 wrote:I'm done with Randy.

He really just has no clue about who to play with whom and when.

You can see what works. Its obvious. Stop feeding Nene in the post. It doesn't work. He is much better on high pick and roll plays where he is moving toward the baskets.

Finally Ves saw some minutes and you could see how he helped. Then you don't see him ago. Singleton comes in and totally beasts. But he never uses him either. Wall isolations work. He needs to do them a lot more. Etc. Etc. He would get close with some line ups but even then he would be a player off.

He never played a set that got Okafor in a rhythm and he has been a beast lastly. He doesn't take advantage of what Crawford can do.

Temple should never have started at SG and yet he still started him for the 2nd. He puts the team in a hole that is to big to overcome before stumbling into something that works. And then he puts Nene back in.

He just doesn't understand what is a good line up where the players compliment each other and the offense he has been running feeding Nene is the post is terrible.

He is what EFJ was. A good assistant that is not a good head coach.

Please fire him at the All Star break.


SHOCKER ALERT: hands, I say why wait?

Randy is a good man and he has done his best. Fire him now and bring in a different coach. These guys have lost hope and are about to devolve into selfish play, bickering, etc. Wittman can bark at them and get anything else. They probably are blaming him like you are.

Fire him. I like Wittman a lot and this is on Ted and Ernie. Give the coach his papers and let Newman steer the Titanic. Why not?

But TED LEONSIS, YOU NEED TO MAN UP AND FIRE YOUR BOY, EG, TOO!!!!


Guys, we're not going to make the playoffs. It's over. There's no reason to fire the coach right now. If you have any clue as an owner, you fire EG right after the All-Star break so you can hire a GM who can picks his own scouts and draft his own guys. Maybe work some trades. But let the guy pick his own coach. No way do you fire Randy now just to hire Cassell or Newman unless you think they are a much better option.

But I'd rather let them flounder under Randy and get a top 3 pick. I mean the guy has to play Garrett Temple. Crawforrd is so bad that they came back with AJ Price and Wall playing together. That might be a better starting 2 but that's what Witt has to deal with until Beal returns. Yeah, he sucks as a coach.
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Post#120 » by dandridge 10 » Sun Feb 3, 2013 4:17 am

hands11 wrote:I'm done with Randy.

He really just has no clue about who to play with whom and when.

You can see what works. Its obvious. Stop feeding Nene in the post. It doesn't work. He is much better on high pick and roll plays where he is moving toward the baskets.

Finally Ves saw some minutes and you could see how he helped. Then you don't see him ago. Singleton comes in and totally beasts. But he never uses him either. Wall isolations work. He needs to do them a lot more. Etc. Etc. He would get close with some line ups but even then he would be a player off.

He never played a set that got Okafor in a rhythm and he has been a beast lastly. He doesn't take advantage of what Crawford can do.

Temple should never have started at SG and yet he still started him for the 2nd. He puts the team in a hole that is to big to overcome before stumbling into something that works. And then he puts Nene back in.

He just doesn't understand what is a good line up where the players compliment each other and the offense he has been running feeding Nene is the post is terrible.

He is what EFJ was. A good assistant that is not a good head coach.

Please fire him at the All Star break.



There is just so much wrong with your post that I don't know where to begin.

When Ves came in and Nene went out, we were down by 10. When Ves went out, we were down by 12. I wouldn't say that he hurt them that bad, but he didnt help.

Singleton came in and played well tonight when we were getting blown out. When Singleton was getting minutes before, he has stunk. Let's see him play well on a consistent basis and when we arent down by 27 points with nothing to lose.

Wall isolations work...especially when the opposing teams best defender is not in the game and the opposing team gets a little lackadaisical after being up 27 points. Wall's isolations didn't work when the Spurs locked down in the last few minutes.

Wittman put Nene back in the game and he played well, making a dunk and a hook shot. The Wizards lost not because Nene was in the game, but because Ariza and Price bricked up multiple 3 pointers and Wall had two bad turnovers. But of course, that's on Wittman.

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