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Re: Wizards Summer League 2013 - Mini Camp 8th Games July 13 

Post#101 » by hands11 » Mon Jul 8, 2013 8:19 pm

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pancakes3 wrote:
Dat2U wrote:I believe Summer league is ideal for finding out what a player "can't" do.


Then it's looking like KCP can't really shoot.


PC3 hes playing the C's now and hes playing a helluva lot better than yesterday and the game just started. Already hit a 3 too. Maybe it was the nerves


What is a PC3?

There is a CP3. And a RG3. Thats all the 3's we need. Let's not over due it people.
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Re: Wizards Summer League 2013 - Mini Camp 8th Games July 13 

Post#102 » by MikeTheKid » Mon Jul 8, 2013 8:58 pm

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pancakes3 wrote:
Then it's looking like KCP can't really shoot.


PC3 hes playing the C's now and hes playing a helluva lot better than yesterday and the game just started. Already hit a 3 too. Maybe it was the nerves


What is a PC3?

There is a CP3. And a RG3. Thats all the 3's we need. Let's not over due it people.


Pancakes3, I know I tried too hard on that one
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Post#103 » by Knighthonor » Tue Jul 9, 2013 1:59 am

dobrojim wrote:
Knighthonor wrote:I didnt say it was Racial, I said prejudice.
To make judgement of Somebody's character based off a dunk is just wrong and prejudice.i don't care what race you are. It's prejudice to make that kind of judgment on anybody. So how about you clear things up there. I said nothing about racial.


It would be prejudiceD of me if I were to racially stereotype someone based on
their grammar. It would be stupid as well since I could very easily be totally wrong.

Your point?
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Re: Wizards Summer League 2013 - Mini Camp 8th Games July 13 

Post#104 » by payitforward » Tue Jul 9, 2013 2:03 am

hands11 wrote:
MikeTheKid wrote:Im watching this Orlando Magic SL team right now and they are really gun to watch right now and Osby and Harkless is going to be a real stud in a few years. Man they've retooled

I like what Orlando is doing....
They should be back in the playoffs in 2-3 years. And in a perfect storm, maybe sooner.

Yep. In one year, from what looked to the world like a total disaster -- losing Howard via what everyone thought was a horrible trade -- their new, young GM has turned the Magic into an incredibly interesting franchise with an absolute *ton* of young talent.

Word is they have been trying hard to trade Glen Davis. Even if they don't, next year they'll have 11 guys under contract for @ $37m. Wow. Oladipo, Vucevic, Harris, Harkless, Nicholson, O'Quinn, Lamb -- a terrific set of young talent. Add Osby maybe. And of course more to come next draft.

If they decide to go "all in for mediocrity" like a certain team I know, what would keep them out of the playoffs next year, given the $$ they'll have to spend on FAs. My guess is they won't do that.
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Re: Wizards Summer League 2013 - Mini Camp 8th Games July 13 

Post#105 » by 80sballboy » Tue Jul 9, 2013 2:19 am

Summer league is fun to watch but it's an absolute joke when it comes to determining how great a player is going to be because there is so much garbage out there. Olynyk looked good but let's see him do those finger rolls against real players. Burke struggled some and maybe he will have issues getting his shot off but I feel he's a smart enough player to adjust to the size and length of the defenders.
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Post#106 » by dobrojim » Tue Jul 9, 2013 3:09 am

Knighthonor wrote:
dobrojim wrote:
Knighthonor wrote:I didnt say it was Racial, I said prejudice.
To make judgement of Somebody's character based off a dunk is just wrong and prejudice.i don't care what race you are. It's prejudice to make that kind of judgment on anybody. So how about you clear things up there. I said nothing about racial.


It would be prejudiceD of me if I were to racially stereotype someone based on
their grammar. It would be stupid as well since I could very easily be totally wrong.

Your point?


never mind. It was a stupid thought.
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Post#107 » by verbal8 » Tue Jul 9, 2013 3:25 am

BruceO wrote:
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gambitx777 wrote:Jackie Carmichael, was that to much to ask for..... WTF.

booker, Bone, Hassel, land Dillard look interesting, Im not a fan of gaines, but what ever. So much for ever seeing Thomas ever again, but at least we can see how Jan plays with his bigger body. I am looking forward to seeing Singleton play as well as our first looks at Rice and Porter.


I don't think anyone has picked up Carmichael yet. Sure would have been nice to see him invited.


Miami heat has carmicheal. Kabongo playing today as well. It's been interesting if Oladipo makes a westbrook like change to pg. Or plays wades game who has the ball


I recall seeing it mentioned that they don't see him as a pg, but they see that as being the toughest transition to the pros for him. Seems like a smart move to challenge him in summer league rather than have an easier time doing less ball handling. I don't think there is much question he should be able to finish, when set up.
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Re: Wizards Summer League 2013 - Mini Camp 8th Games July 13 

Post#108 » by doclinkin » Tue Jul 9, 2013 5:12 am

Wizards Mini-Camp: Day 1
Posted on July 08, 2013

Jeremy Hyman | WashingtonWizards.com

7:45 pm: Just wrapped up Day 1 of camp. Like with any first day, there were a lot teaching points that needed to be taught, but for the most part the practice went pretty well.

A lot of fast-break type drills to get everyone running and teach that philosophy to get out and run immediately. We got our first look at the two rookie draft picks, Otto Porter and Glen Rice, Jr. which was exciting and neither disappointed. Porter's length could not go unnoticed as he constantly tipped balls and came away with steals. One of his highlights tonight was when he soared for a rebound, took the ball coast-to-coast, and then pulled up and sank a 15-foot jump-shot. That one play showed many of the areas Porter can help this Wizards team and while we can't get carried away with a mini-camp scrimmage, it's nice to see what he's capable of doing on the court. As for Rice Jr., he also showed why he's called a "pure scorer" as he showed an ability to score both inside and out. He finished at the basket with some acrobatic lay-ins and also showed his ability to shoot the ball. I saw a little bit of a Monta Ellis type game from Rice Jr. tonight in the scrimmage, though again we can't get carried away and now project Rice to average 20 points per game next year. However, I think he could be a guy that see's minutes at the two guard when the team is looking for an offensive spark off the bench.
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Post#109 » by gambitx777 » Tue Jul 9, 2013 6:03 am

Maurice Sutton is on the roaster, i must have missed that one. He never got much playing time for Villinova, but he can block and rebound, hes flawed but i think he could be one of those off the radar pick ups that could turn out for us if he gets taught by our vet bigs. I hope he gets more playing time than bone.
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Post#110 » by hands11 » Tue Jul 9, 2013 6:18 am

http://www.monumentalnetwork.com/videos ... ec17ed0000

Video interviews.

BB
Otto
Chris
Glen
Ves

Good stuff. Nice to hear from the boys.

Chris Singleton gave an impressive interview. Great to see him sound so confident.
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Post#111 » by deneem4 » Tue Jul 9, 2013 10:31 am

I think glen rice going to be the steal of the draft...he gives off a westbrook like vibe...I would really like to see him run some point during the summer league...
Pay your beals....or its lights out!!!
Bron, Bosh, Wade is like Mike, Hakeem, barkley...3 top 5 picks from same draft
mike, hakeem and Barkley on the same team!!!!
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Post#112 » by payitforward » Tue Jul 9, 2013 12:28 pm

gambitx777 wrote:Maurice Sutton is on the roaster, i must have missed that one. He never got much playing time for Villinova, but he can block and rebound, hes flawed but i think he could be one of those off the radar pick ups that could turn out for us if he gets taught by our vet bigs. I hope he gets more playing time than bone.

I read this 5 times before I figured out what you meant: roaster = roster.

duh...
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Post#113 » by verbal8 » Tue Jul 9, 2013 1:28 pm

payitforward wrote:
gambitx777 wrote:Maurice Sutton is on the roaster, i must have missed that one. He never got much playing time for Villinova, but he can block and rebound, hes flawed but i think he could be one of those off the radar pick ups that could turn out for us if he gets taught by our vet bigs. I hope he gets more playing time than bone.

I read this 5 times before I figured out what you meant: roaster = roster.

duh...


Do you have a translation for:
gambitx777 wrote:I hope he gets more playing time than bone.

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Post#114 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Jul 9, 2013 1:29 pm

payitforward wrote:
hands11 wrote:
MikeTheKid wrote:Im watching this Orlando Magic SL team right now and they are really gun to watch right now and Osby and Harkless is going to be a real stud in a few years. Man they've retooled

I like what Orlando is doing....
They should be back in the playoffs in 2-3 years. And in a perfect storm, maybe sooner.

Yep. In one year, from what looked to the world like a total disaster -- losing Howard via what everyone thought was a horrible trade -- their new, young GM has turned the Magic into an incredibly interesting franchise with an absolute *ton* of young talent.

Word is they have been trying hard to trade Glen Davis. Even if they don't, next year they'll have 11 guys under contract for @ $37m. Wow. Oladipo, Vucevic, Harris, Harkless, Nicholson, O'Quinn, Lamb -- a terrific set of young talent. Add Osby maybe. And of course more to come next draft.

If they decide to go "all in for mediocrity" like a certain team I know, what would keep them out of the playoffs next year, given the $$ they'll have to spend on FAs. My guess is they won't do that.


The only problem with having all that young talent is THERE are only 240 minutes to go around. At SF and PF there are 96 minutes, total. How can young, talented players develop when they can't all play? Harris is rock-solid, and about the closest thing to a breakout star at SF/PF. Harkless and Nicholson play SF and PF, respectively, but they're going to be pressed for minutes. A healthy Glenn Davis is a starter at PF. Vucevic is their C. O'Quinn is a nice rebounder but he's going to need someone to go in order to get PT. The rookie Osby has a nice game, and he's going to probably end up leapfrogging guys on the roster, young guys. No matter how ORL does it, someone is not going to get the minutes. What complicates it is when young guys are battling other young guys for minutes on a losing team.

At least the Wizards roster has some nice balance of veterans and youth now. I wish the 2011 drafted youth were more talented, and that Seraphin was a worker on the boards. We don't IMO have an abundance of talented youth.
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Post#115 » by Ruzious » Tue Jul 9, 2013 1:56 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
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hands11 wrote:I like what Orlando is doing....
They should be back in the playoffs in 2-3 years. And in a perfect storm, maybe sooner.

Yep. In one year, from what looked to the world like a total disaster -- losing Howard via what everyone thought was a horrible trade -- their new, young GM has turned the Magic into an incredibly interesting franchise with an absolute *ton* of young talent.

Word is they have been trying hard to trade Glen Davis. Even if they don't, next year they'll have 11 guys under contract for @ $37m. Wow. Oladipo, Vucevic, Harris, Harkless, Nicholson, O'Quinn, Lamb -- a terrific set of young talent. Add Osby maybe. And of course more to come next draft.

If they decide to go "all in for mediocrity" like a certain team I know, what would keep them out of the playoffs next year, given the $$ they'll have to spend on FAs. My guess is they won't do that.


The only problem with having all that young talent is their are only 240 minutes to go around. At SF and PF there are 96 minutes, total. How can young, talented players develop when they can't all play. Harris is rock-solid, and about the closest thing to a breakout star at SF/PF. Harkless and Nicholson play SF and PF, respectively, but they're going to be pressed for minutes. A healthy Glenn Davis is a starter at PF. Vucevic is their C. O'Quinn is a nice rebounder but he's going to need someone to go in order to get PT. The rookie Osby has a nice game, and he's going to probably end up leapfrogging guys on the roster, young guys. No matter how ORL does it, someone is not going to get the minutes. What complicates it is when young guys are battling other young guys for minutes on a losing team.

At least the Wizards roster has some nice balance of veterans and youth now. I wish the 2011 drafted youth were more talented, and that Seraphin was a worker on the boards. We don't IMO have an abundance of talented youth.

With that minutes problem, I'd love to steal Nicholson or even O'Quinn from them. If they see Harris as a stretch 4 and like Osby, how do they find time for Nicholson and O'Quinn? Maybe they use O'Quinn some at backup center. The biggest question I had on Nicholson was his strength, but they now list him at 250 lbs. He aleady had a knack for scoring. With added strength, maybe that makes him a solid force on the boards and defensively. Both Nicholson and O'Quinn have length to make up for average athleticism. O'Quinn's like a bull in a china shop, so he's going to look clumsy at times, but his rebounding and length combined with strength are going to make him a winner, imo. Nicholson would make a smart trade target for the Wiz, but I'm not sure how to get him.
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Post#116 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Jul 9, 2013 2:17 pm

Ruzious wrote:With that minutes problem, I'd love to steal Nicholson or even O'Quinn from them. If they see Harris as a stretch 4 and like Osby, how do they find time for Nicholson and O'Quinn? Maybe they use O'Quinn some at backup center. The biggest question I had on Nicholson was his strength, but they now list him at 250 lbs. He aleady had a knack for scoring. With added strength, maybe that makes him a solid force on the boards and defensively. Both Nicholson and O'Quinn have length to make up for average athleticism. O'Quinn's like a bull in a china shop, so he's going to look clumsy at times, but his rebounding and length combined with strength are going to make him a winner, imo. Nicholson would make a smart trade target for the Wiz, but I'm not sure how to get him.


Agreed.

I'm not sure, either.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... lits/2013/
http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... elog/2013/

Nicholson's potentially a big-time scorer. He's good for points off the bench, but he's not a stretch four with three point range.
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Post#117 » by Dat2U » Tue Jul 9, 2013 6:01 pm

Kelly Olynyk is averaging 20 & 7 in summer league after putting up 21, 9 & 4 today.

Skill > athleticism.
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Post#118 » by Ruzious » Tue Jul 9, 2013 6:09 pm

SL stats < cheeseburger and medium fries. :wink:
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Post#119 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Jul 9, 2013 6:11 pm

Dat2U wrote:Kelly Olynyk is averaging 20 & 7 in summer league after putting up 21, 9 & 4 today.

Skill > athleticism.


He also had 5 steals (and only 1 turnover) in his second game, despite his short reach and poor athleticism.
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Post#120 » by Dat2U » Tue Jul 9, 2013 6:14 pm

Ruzious wrote:SL stats < cheeseburger and medium fries. :wink:


But yet everybody would be writing the kid off already if he was putting up Steven Adams' type numbers out there.

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