Official Trade Thread - Part XXVI

[verbal8]

Gary Neal anyone? Maybe MIL takes an expiring to get him off their books for next year.

Milwaukee's traded for about 8 extra 2nd round picks in the last year, so if someone offers them a 2nd rounder, I think they pull the trigger so they can continue their efforts to be masters of the second round.

Or maybe they "cash one in" to move Neal.

[TGW]

Would anyone do Nene for Bargnani and Udrih at the deadline? Bargnani expires after next season. It would make the team worse but at least Bargnani would help spread the floor a bit.

[TGW]

Take this with a grain of salt, but some Bulls fans are calling Gibson the best defensive power forward in the league.

[LyricalRico]

Would anyone do Nene for Bargnani and Udrih at the deadline? Bargnani expires after next season. It would make the team worse but at least Bargnani would help spread the floor a bit.

Nah, I'd rather try to move expirings for a guy like Novak than take on Bargs.

[mhd]

Would anyone do Nene for Bargnani and Udrih at the deadline? Bargnani expires after next season. It would make the team worse but at least Bargnani would help spread the floor a bit.

The Knicks are not going to do that deal because all of their big deals expire at the same time.

[Nivek]

The Wizards aren't going to make a dump trade unless they get a rash of injuries (or a major one to Wall) and go on a sustained losing streak -- on the order of 10-15 games. That's what it would take to get them out of playoff contention and get them out of their All-In for the Playoffs mindset. Even then, I'm dubious about whether they'd dump salary. My guess: even in that situation they'd hang on to what they have and try again for the playoffs with this group next season.

[Rafael122]

So the Kings are offering Marcus Thornton and Jimmer for Andre Miller. Kings including a second round pick.

If that's all it takes to get a capable back up, you wonder what the Wizards can offer? Thornton has 1 more year on his deal, Nuggets would be adding $4 million in salary next year which would put them over the luxury tax unless they make another move. I don't see how a deal involving Maynor and Seraphin wouldn't entice the Nuggets to make a move? I'd probably include our 2nd round pick next year.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Pau Gasol plus either Nash or Blake to Washington.

Nene, Ariza, Seraphin, Singleton, Maynor plus a 2016 first or sinply 2 second round picks to LAL.

Pau Gasol and his deal are very valuable. LA is in crisis. Nene and talent can spark LA (weird pun not intended.) I love Ariza and Nene but the NBA is a business. Gasol has rings and is way underrated, plus he is a HOF-bound player. Nash will maybe coach some day. HOF player who could play 2 seasons with Wall or Beal. Blake is another coach on the floor. NCAA champ at Maryland.

This is a win-win for Ariza and all players as well as both teams.

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Pau idea is a massive dump trade that IMO they'd never regret, Nivek.

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[hands11]

Pau Gasol plus either Nash or Blake to Washington.

Nene, Ariza, Seraphin, Singleton, Maynor plus a 2016 first or sinply 2 second round picks to LAL.

Pau Gasol and his deal are very valuable. LA is in crisis. Nene and talent can spark LA (weird pun not intended.) I love Ariza and Nene but the NBA is a business. Gasol has rings and is way underrated, plus he is a HOF-bound player. Nash will maybe coach some day. HOF player who could play 2 seasons with Wall or Beal. Blake is another coach on the floor. NCAA champ at Maryland.

This is a win-win for Ariza and all players as well as both teams.

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I could see something like that happening. This was the year I felt that might make a big move. I think that would count.

It does seem more likely then not that the Wizards do something this year.

[nate33]

Pau idea is a massive dump trade that IMO they'd never regret, Nivek.

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They'd regret it if they included a 1st round pick.

Nene is still a very good player and he is playing well this season, albeit in limited minutes. I have no interest in sacrificing a 1st just to get rid of him.

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Pau idea is a massive dump trade that IMO they'd never regret, Nivek.

They'd regret it if they included a 1st round pick.

Nene is still a very good player and he is playing well this season, albeit in limited minutes. I have no interest in sacrificing a 1st just to get rid of him.

I have to disagree about Nene, who is a shadow of the guy he was in his prime -- and therefore is enormously over-paid and a dragsail on the franchise. But, I certainly agree that we can't give up any more Round 1 picks!!

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Pau Gasol plus either Nash or Blake to Washington.

Nene, Ariza, Seraphin, Singleton, Maynor plus a 2016 first or sinply 2 second round picks to LAL.
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Everybody involved in this trade is a FA at the end of the season except Nene and Maynor. Hence, all we get out of this is cap room going forward -- very valuable to be sure, but we give up a Round 1 pick for it. We are already down a pick in one or another draft soon. Don't see how we can do that -- we need more picks not fewer, so that the next GM has some chance to rebuild the team efficiently.

[nate33]

Pau idea is a massive dump trade that IMO they'd never regret, Nivek.

They'd regret it if they included a 1st round pick.

Nene is still a very good player and he is playing well this season, albeit in limited minutes. I have no interest in sacrificing a 1st just to get rid of him.

I have to disagree about Nene, who is a shadow of the guy he was in his prime -- and therefore is enormously over-paid and a dragsail on the franchise. But, I certainly agree that we can't give up any more Round 1 picks!!

He still has the second highest PER on the team and a dramatically positive on/off differential. Moving him to the bench has turned the bench from being one of the worst in league history, to an actual positive influence on games. Clearly, Nene can still play, and play very well. Yeah, he's a shadow of prime Nene, but that doesn't make him a bad player. He may not be worth $13M a year, but he's probably worth $10M a year. I'd probably dump him for an expiring contract if the opportunity presented itself, but it's definitely not a priority, and it's definitely not something I'd sacrifice a pick to make happen.

[pcbothwel]

The Wizards aren't going to make a dump trade unless they get a rash of injuries (or a major one to Wall) and go on a sustained losing streak -- on the order of 10-15 games. That's what it would take to get them out of playoff contention and get them out of their All-In for the Playoffs mindset. Even then, I'm dubious about whether they'd dump salary. My guess: even in that situation they'd hang on to what they have and try again for the playoffs with this group next season.

Nivek, Thanks for pointing out something regarding this thread. I believe as we get closer to the deadline this thread needs to evolve/mature into reasonable trades for our situation. That doesnt mean some of you guys cant thow out some wild stuff (waiting for CCJ), but we should be realistic. Take these things into account:
1) EG is our GM with this his last year
2) We are currently 5th in the standings
3) We have been bad for 5 years

I think when you consider these things, there is no way we will A) have a fire sale, B) Trade Gortat or Nene (for expirings). The only things the Wiz will consider over the next month is using Ariza and/or Filler to give us more depth for a 3rd big or 3rd guard.
Again, If I had my way their would be many more creative options on the table, but I just think we should be realistic.

[verbal8]

Pau idea is a massive dump trade that IMO they'd never regret, Nivek.

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They'd regret it if they included a 1st round pick.

Nene is still a very good player and he is playing well this season, albeit in limited minutes. I have no interest in sacrificing a 1st just to get rid of him.

I wouldn't give up picks to move Nene. I think Ariza should be enough of an incentive that the value should work without a pick. I think the filler can be removed(Maynor, Singleton, Blake).

I don't think Nene is going to work for the Lakers either. I think they are going to try to use their cap space carefully, similar to Dallas this past offseason. Adding Nene really limits the ability to do that.

What concerns me most about the deal(without a pick) is Gasol after this season. If he stinks, it is easy. But if he is successful what do you do with a Wall, Beal, Porter and a 33 year old center looking for big money. It is even worse than the current situation with Gortat and Nene. Also Gortat/Gasol doesn't seem to be the greatest fit.

[Ruzious]

All the Nene trade ideas are fantasy land. He's not going to get traded. As long as he's healthy, they're going to want to keep him - whether or not they should want to keep him. And if he can't play, nobody's going to trade for him. You can post ideas to show how clever you are, but it's not gonna happen.

[Rafael122]

The Wizards aren't going to make a dump trade unless they get a rash of injuries (or a major one to Wall) and go on a sustained losing streak -- on the order of 10-15 games. That's what it would take to get them out of playoff contention and get them out of their All-In for the Playoffs mindset. Even then, I'm dubious about whether they'd dump salary. My guess: even in that situation they'd hang on to what they have and try again for the playoffs with this group next season.

Nivek, Thanks for pointing out something regarding this thread. I believe as we get closer to the deadline this thread needs to evolve/mature into reasonable trades for our situation. That doesnt mean some of you guys cant thow out some wild stuff (waiting for CCJ), but we should be realistic. Take these things into account:
1) EG is our GM with this his last year
2) We are currently 5th in the standings
3) We have been bad for 5 years

I think when you consider these things, there is no way we will A) have a fire sale, B) Trade Gortat or Nene (for expirings). The only things the Wiz will consider over the next month is using Ariza and/or Filler to give us more depth for a 3rd big or 3rd guard.
Again, If I had my way their would be many more creative options on the table, but I just think we should be realistic.

I still think Ernie can make a smaller move and somehow get an Andre Miller type. Nuggets are operating from a position of weakness, so it shouldn't take much to trade for him. And that also solves our backup point guard issue for next year as well.

They need a 3rd guard, and they may or may not need a backup big man.

Possible players that are on the block: Chris Singleton, Kevin Seraphin, Al Harrington and Eric Maynor

You've got New Orleans' '15 2nd round pick that you can dangle in a trade (it would be somewhat valuable b/c that's definitely going to be a top 15 2nd round pick next season).

I'm sure they can come up with something w/out having to trade Ariza, and punting on making that decision until the offseason.

[FAH1223]

Pau Gasol plus either Nash or Blake to Washington.

Nene, Ariza, Seraphin, Singleton, Maynor plus a 2016 first or sinply 2 second round picks to LAL.

Pau Gasol and his deal are very valuable. LA is in crisis. Nene and talent can spark LA (weird pun not intended.) I love Ariza and Nene but the NBA is a business. Gasol has rings and is way underrated, plus he is a HOF-bound player. Nash will maybe coach some day. HOF player who could play 2 seasons with Wall or Beal. Blake is another coach on the floor. NCAA champ at Maryland.

This is a win-win for Ariza and all players as well as both teams.

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LAL is tanking and they aren't even trying. I think they just let everyone expire and hope for the best pick possible in the lottery and use that young piece with Kobe and another FA of significance to rebuild their roster.

[verbal8]

LAL is tanking and they aren't even trying. I think they just let everyone expire and hope for the best pick possible in the lottery and use that young piece with Kobe and another FA of significance to rebuild their roster.

I think Gasol will need to take a steep discount if he wants to stay with the Lakers.

One possible destination for Gasol(as a Free Agent) would be Memphis. My guess would be it would be for the MLE. They will need another big if Ed Davis or Randolph leave. He has already made 150 million over his career, so while a few million is still a large amount of money, it may not be a huge motivation.

If he does go for the biggest offer it will be interesting to see where he ends up.