2016 Offseason Thread -- Not (just) #KD2DC

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Lauvergne. My favorite cologne. Eau de Lauvergne

For Lauvergne this off season, it's going to be "L'eau de Dough."

You mean D'eau de Deau.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Despite my objections, I'm back on board. Offseason ....

Hopefully, the Wizards can eek out their playoffs appearance (and keep Wall happy, as well as the veterans). That affects everything.

Now that they've got Hickson on vet minimum PLUS this Morris kid getting practice burn; I'm seeing the short-term view and hoping for the best...that will determine the offseason ASSUMING( ALREADY) they're not drafting in round one.

[jangles86]

I would just like to announce:


It's tank time. This team is going nowhere but downwards.


All in for pick 9 and lower!!!

Poeltl, Raab, Labissiere, Stone and Murray will be on my radar.

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Despite my objections, I'm back on board. Offseason ....

Hopefully, the Wizards can eek out their playoffs appearance (and keep Wall happy, as well as the veterans). That affects everything.

Now that they've got Hickson on vet minimum PLUS this Morris kid getting practice burn; I'm seeing the short-term view and hoping for the best...that will determine the offseason ASSUMING( ALREADY) they're not drafting in round one.

I'm extremely glad you are back, CCJ, but I don't think the short-term view looks too rosy. Most likely we miss the playoffs and the Suns still get our pick. Some small possibility we get in as #8 and get brushed aside in 4 by the Cavs.

Either way, we are likely stuck as MM's last stop on his way out of the NBA. So far, in @100 minutes, he is posting a TS% of .33 to go with 7.7 rebounds per 40 minutes. Or, to put it slightly differently, had Kris Humphries played Morris's minutes last night, assuming he'd put up something like his usual numbers for those minutes, we'd have won the game.

[Ruzious]

I would just like to announce:


It's tank time. This team is going nowhere but downwards.


All in for pick 9 and lower!!!

Poeltl, Raab, Labissiere, Stone and Murray will be on my radar.

It's actually going to be difficult to move either way - to win enough to make the playoffs or to lose enough to reach the 9th pick. Settling for #9 protection could end up being the last straw for EG keeping his job. Our only hope may be to get blind lucky in the lottery.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Despite my objections, I'm back on board. Offseason ....

Hopefully, the Wizards can eek out their playoffs appearance (and keep Wall happy, as well as the veterans). That affects everything.

Now that they've got Hickson on vet minimum PLUS this Morris kid getting practice burn; I'm seeing the short-term view and hoping for the best...that will determine the offseason ASSUMING( ALREADY) they're not drafting in round one.

I'm extremely glad you are back, CCJ, but I don't think the short-term view looks too rosy. Most likely we miss the playoffs and the Suns still get our pick. Some small possibility we get in as #8 and get brushed aside in 4 by the Cavs.

Either way, we are likely stuck as MM's last stop on his way out of the NBA. So far, in @100 minutes, he is posting a TS% of .33 to go with 7.7 rebounds per 40 minutes. Or, to put it slightly differently, had Kris Humphries played Morris's minutes last night, assuming he'd put up something like his usual numbers for those minutes, we'd have won the game.

I would say something like the short-term looks like ass, but that's one of those pejorative euphemism that has ambiguity associated with it. Some ass looks good. (Just had a 24 HR Fitness workout. Ladies in yoga pants. And for LGBT correctness, great ass of all kinds.) Pif, I'm back for the love of the board. Not what the short or long term looks like. The Wizards could be on the road to perdition or on a Bataan death march. (Or, Not!) EG to me is a "death by 1000 cuts" GM.

pif, I agree with your most likely. No playoffs. No pick, either. I wanna see the 8th seed scenario if possible. I think 6th seed is just as possible (slim, but they may be 1 or 2 games apart for 8th seed).

MM doesn't bother me. Gortat and Dudley love the kid. Dude can dunk. "He's a'ight."

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If the draft took place today, and the ping pong balls didn't pop us up top, we'd have the #13 pick -- and it would go to the Suns. It seems pretty unlikely we'll lose enough games to wind up #9.

That leaves R2 -- but... does anyone know if we *have* a pick in R2 this year? Didn't we give up a R2 pick for a chance at the irreplaceable GRIII? Didn't we give up another one to acquire Andre Miller? Or else to acquire Sessions?

Are we out of the upcoming draft altogether?

[BigA]

If the draft took place today, and the ping pong balls didn't pop us up top, we'd have the #13 pick -- and it would go to the Suns. It seems pretty unlikely we'll lose enough games to wind up #9.

That leaves R2 -- but... does anyone know if we *have* a pick in R2 this year? Didn't we give up a R2 pick for a chance at the irreplaceable GRIII? Didn't we give up another one to acquire Andre Miller? Or else to acquire Sessions?

Are we out of the upcoming draft altogether?

The 2016 R2 pick was traded to the Hawks as part of the package to move up for Oubre.

[Rafael122]

Parsons would be my Plan B.

[closg00]

I just had a cynical and evil thought. Doesn't it strengthen Ernie Grunfeld's job security to not have to draft picks to use? Ted would be less-likely to fire EG sooner if he were wanting a new GM to make the pick.

Prepare for massive heartburn on Draft night, I already have GPTSD (Grunfeld Post Traumatic Stress Disorder)

[montestewart]

I just had a cynical and evil thought. Doesn't it strengthen Ernie Grunfeld's job security to not have to draft picks to use? Ted would be less-likely to fire EG sooner if he were wanting a new GM to make the pick.

Prepare for massive heartburn on Draft night, I already have GPTSD (Grunfeld Post Traumatic Stress Disorder)

Doesn't it strengthen EGg's job security to trade away draft picks, trade for or sign mediocre players, and generally make the Wizards a toxic loser environment with no appeal to any quality FA? Who would want to take the GM job after EG? Where's Terd going to find a new GM? Skid Row?

[BigA]

I just had a cynical and evil thought. Doesn't it strengthen Ernie Grunfeld's job security to not have to draft picks to use? Ted would be less-likely to fire EG sooner if he were wanting a new GM to make the pick.

Prepare for massive heartburn on Draft night, I already have GPTSD (Grunfeld Post Traumatic Stress Disorder)

Hopefully not. If you're an owner and don't trust your GM to make draft picks, why would you trust them to do anything else?

[Ruzious]

Parsons would be my Plan B.

I'd be against taking what it would take (probably a max deal) to get Parsons to be a stretch 4 here. He's much better than Morris - but his lack of strength and rebounding would be HUGE problems. Even using the GS "small ball model", GS has maulers in Greene, Ezeli, and Bogut. You need guys with power and strength. We can't go another season with just Gortat. If you have a Durant, you can get away with not having certain things, but Parsons... no. He's not at that level. Pass. Horford would be a much better option. I'd even prefer Sullinger - warts and all.

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I just had a cynical and evil thought. Doesn't it strengthen Ernie Grunfeld's job security to not have to draft picks to use? Ted would be less-likely to fire EG sooner if he were wanting a new GM to make the pick.

Prepare for massive heartburn on Draft night, I already have GPTSD (Grunfeld Post Traumatic Stress Disorder)

Doesn't it strengthen EGg's job security to trade away draft picks, trade for or sign mediocre players, and generally make the Wizards a toxic loser environment with no appeal to any quality FA? Who would want to take the GM job after EG? Where's Terd going to find a new GM? Skid Row?

I heard CCJ and Kevin are both looking for jobs.

[montestewart]

I just had a cynical and evil thought. Doesn't it strengthen Ernie Grunfeld's job security to not have to draft picks to use? Ted would be less-likely to fire EG sooner if he were wanting a new GM to make the pick.

Prepare for massive heartburn on Draft night, I already have GPTSD (Grunfeld Post Traumatic Stress Disorder)

Doesn't it strengthen EGg's job security to trade away draft picks, trade for or sign mediocre players, and generally make the Wizards a toxic loser environment with no appeal to any quality FA? Who would want to take the GM job after EG? Where's Terd going to find a new GM? Skid Row?

I heard CCJ and Kevin are both looking for jobs.

Terd's too clueless about basketball to know how to judge an unknown quantity. He'll go with someone with a substantial body of work, having already been fired by a few other NBA teams. "I wanted to go with someone who knows the Eastern Conference, has experience with building and rebuilding teams, and has strong local ties. Billy King was the obvious choice. I didn't even interview anyone else."

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Doesn't it strengthen EGg's job security to trade away draft picks, trade for or sign mediocre players, and generally make the Wizards a toxic loser environment with no appeal to any quality FA? Who would want to take the GM job after EG? Where's Terd going to find a new GM? Skid Row?

I heard CCJ and Kevin are both looking for jobs.

Terd's too clueless about basketball to know how to judge an unknown quantity. He'll go with someone with a substantial body of work, having already been fired by a few other NBA teams. "I wanted to go with someone who knows the Eastern Conference, has experience with building and rebuilding teams, and has strong local ties. Billy King was the obvious choice. I didn't even interview anyone else."

Yu don't have to convince me Ted is a moron, Stewie. How he got insanely wealthy boggles my mind. To quote HST "It's a strange world--some people get rich and others eat schit and die."

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Yu don't have to convince me Ted is a moron, Stewie. How he got insanely wealthy boggles my mind. To quote HST "It's a strange world--some people get rich and others eat schit and die."

He got rich because he hooked on to a real innovator -- Steve Case, who founded AOL.

As I've written here in the past, working in the tech world I met two similar types:

1. people born on 3d base who think they hit a triple, and

2. people the wind blew high up in a tree, and who conclude that they know how to fly.

Ted is in the 2d group.

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Yu don't have to convince me Ted is a moron, Stewie. How he got insanely wealthy boggles my mind. To quote HST "It's a strange world--some people get rich and others eat schit and die."

He got rich because he hooked on to a real innovator -- Steve Case, who founded AOL.

As I've written here in the past, working in the tech world I met two similar types:

1. people born on 3d base who think they hit a triple, and

2. people the wind blew high up in a tree, and who conclude that they know how to fly.

Ted is in the 2d group.

That's interesting. I was born on 2nd and somehow got thrown out at first. I also fell out of a redwood.

[Ruzious]

Yu don't have to convince me Ted is a moron, Stewie. How he got insanely wealthy boggles my mind. To quote HST "It's a strange world--some people get rich and others eat schit and die."

He got rich because he hooked on to a real innovator -- Steve Case, who founded AOL.

As I've written here in the past, working in the tech world I met two similar types:

1. people born on 3d base who think they hit a triple, and

2. people the wind blew high up in a tree, and who conclude that they know how to fly.

Ted is in the 2d group.

Re number 1, you wouldn't happen to be a Pearl Jam fan, would you? See lyrics to BushLeaguer.

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Parsons would be my Plan B.

Parsons... whom I wanted in 2011 when he was available w/ the pick we used on Shelvin Mack. Sigh....