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Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon

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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#101 » by The Consiglieri » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:30 pm

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mhd wrote:Absolutely horrendous trade. Well, we are back to being easily the worst team in the nba. Even the Nets are better than us.


This. They are tanking hard hard hard for the top of the 25 draft I guess. That's the only explanation I have. That or we haven't heard all the details, that it is part of another trade the rest of which won't surface until after the draft or something.


Certainly part of it, but wouldn't that include dealing Kuzma, and like, not giving one ounce of ---- about asking him his preferences (like stupidly not wanting to go to Dallas).
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#102 » by popper » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:31 pm

I wonder if we shopped Deni for best return? Doesn't seem like it.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#103 » by tsvqt » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:31 pm

#14 will be TOPIC! I like that. He rehabs all season & we get more ping pong balls for Flagg. Have to out tank Nets!
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#104 » by joshuacf » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:31 pm

Benjammin wrote:Does Brogdon have any value because there's no point in keeping him until the trade deadline?


If he stays healthy and plays well to start the season, he'll have value.

People are up in arms about this and I don't blame them, but Brogdon is a year removed from a 6MOY campaign and is on an expiring contract. If he starts the season strong I can easily see him netting us another FRP.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#105 » by Tyrone Messby » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:32 pm

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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#106 » by Dat2U » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:32 pm

smoothSeph wrote:Sounds like a lock Sarr is coming to DC. Kuzma plays the 4, Sarr says he's playing the 4, Deni is also best at the 4. Hopefully Kuzma is gone too but it makes sense to get what you can for Deni. Think his value was pretty high after he got the keys the last 10 games of the season.


Actually it sounds more like Risacher to replace Avdija. I think that's who they are targeting (he's #1 on their board according to a few tapped in) and maybe that 26th pick gets moved while Atlanta is on the clock to secure it.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#107 » by Jimmy Recard » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:32 pm

I’m actually at a loss for words right now still can’t process how awful a trade this is.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#108 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:32 pm

I just got home … did this really happen??

What??!
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#109 » by The Consiglieri » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:32 pm

badinage wrote:They better come away with Edey now.

And package effing Kuz with that 26 for some real value.

Why so fixated on Edey? We have no idea what their priority is w/the picks. Pinning your hopes on a specific guy in the teens or 20's is a guaranteed way to be sad. We almost never draft who you guys want with picks outside the "patently obvious" zone.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#110 » by leswizards » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:34 pm

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leswizards wrote:Malcolm is good and may bring in picks later. Also, if the Wizards get Edey at 14, I am going to love this trade.

Brogdon has missed 104 games in the past 3 years.


I think kp missed even more than 104 games in the 3 seasons prior to the wizards acquiring him. He played well, and in spite of very poor leverage, the Wizards were still able to move him for assets.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#111 » by JAR69 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:34 pm

I'm literally nauseous.

I'm willing to wait and see, but after the Poole trade (and to a lesser degree the Gafford trade), and this, I'm starting to have serious questions about this FO.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#112 » by J-Ves » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:35 pm

I knew something was up when Deni wasn’t on that promotional image for the Mexico City game

How can the league be OK with this? We are going to win 6 games next year
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#113 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:37 pm

Guaranteed that Deni breaks out. This team is dumb af.

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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#114 » by smoothSeph » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:37 pm

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smoothSeph wrote:Sounds like a lock Sarr is coming to DC. Kuzma plays the 4, Sarr says he's playing the 4, Deni is also best at the 4. Hopefully Kuzma is gone too but it makes sense to get what you can for Deni. Think his value was pretty high after he got the keys the last 10 games of the season.


Actually it sounds more like Risacher to replace Avdija. I think that's who they are targeting (he's #1 on their board according to a few tapped in) and maybe that 26th pick gets moved while Atlanta is on the clock to secure it.

We'll see. Most books have Risacher heavily favored to go #1. Even ESPN has been talking about Sarr not wanting to play for ATL, I don't think they focus on that if he's their preferred pick.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#115 » by machu46 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:38 pm

David Aldridge pointing out Washington brought Bub Carrington in for a last minute visit. #14 is right around where he's expected to go.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#116 » by The Consiglieri » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:38 pm

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penbeast0 wrote:Those aren't premium firsts, it's a disappointing return. Still giving the front office a lot of rope for finally moving Beal and actually getting positive value but they don't seem to be strong bargainers otherwise.


I hate to say it, but there's a decent chance that 2029 pick ends up being quite valuable. It's the 2nd best out of Portland, Milwaukee, and Boston. Obviously a very long ways off, but you'd probably assume Boston will continue being good. My beloved Bucks could be toast by then though and there's no guarantee Portland works their way out of the cellar any time soon.


If it was best of, I'd at least be thinking, well . . . maybe.


Me too, except for the fact that it's a '29 first. There is plenty Portland can do to ensure that the pick given up isn't a terribly valuable one in five years. If it were a '26 or even '27 first, I could at least think it was a 60/40 to 55/45 type deal, but as is, it just feels like we took it in the shorts. Bridges may be the better player, but he's also on an extension that is nearly twice as expensive and yet they got what, 3x the assets we got? It's a ridiculous compensation package for Deni.

I can deal with it, because I've wanted them to crater and implode for 3-4 more straight years, and this trade helps do that, but for like 1/2 the compensation I was expecting. It's an obviously crap trade.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#117 » by JAR69 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:39 pm

Aldridge take:

Wizards’ new front office liked Deni Avdija


Make no mistake: the Wizards’ new front office liked Deni Avdija.

They’re the ones who gave him a four-year extension last fall for $55 million. And Avdija had a really, really good season in Washington last year, posting career highs in scoring, rebounds and assists, and wildly improving from deep (career-best .374 on 3s).

But…this front office did not draft him. As such, it wasn’t wedded to him as it is to, say, Bilal Coulibaly, whom Washington acquired in a draft-night deal last season from Indiana.

The Wizards were determined to second a second first-round pick this year, in a position where they could take another swing at someone with lottery potential going forward, along with whoever they take with the second pick tonight.

At 14, they will now have that chance, along with adding another first-round pick (2029) and two future seconds to their increasing cache of draft picks. According to multiple league sources, the Wizards brought in Pitt freshman guard Bub Carrrington for a last-minute visit in the days preceding tonight’s draft.

Carrington is viewed as one of the better young point guards available in the draft, having made the all-rookie team this past season in the ACC, and garnering honorable mention accolades for the all-ACC team.

He’s got fans throughout the NBA, who love his toughness – he’s from Baltimore, where he starred at St. Frances Academy – and his potential as a two-way guard going forward. Carrington is one of the youngest players available in the draft; he won’t turn 19 until July 21.

If the Wizards come out of this draft with a young guard, whether Carrington or Duke’s Jared McCain or USC’s Isaiah Collier, along with their expected selection of 7-1 center Alexandre Sarr with the second pick, they’ll have jump-started their rebuild in earnest.

Whether that includes Malcolm Brogdon, an unrestricted free agent after this season, is unclear.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#118 » by PaulinVA » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:40 pm

I realize I post seldomly, and usually just repost Tweets and such, BUT........if nothing else, this rebuild might be the most fascinating rebuild of all time. At least we'll have that.

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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#119 » by The Consiglieri » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:40 pm

penbeast0 wrote:
machu46 wrote:
penbeast0 wrote:Those aren't premium firsts, it's a disappointing return. Still giving the front office a lot of rope for finally moving Beal and actually getting positive value but they don't seem to be strong bargainers otherwise.


I hate to say it, but there's a decent chance that 2029 pick ends up being quite valuable. It's the 2nd best out of Portland, Milwaukee, and Boston. Obviously a very long ways off, but you'd probably assume Boston will continue being good. My beloved Bucks could be toast by then though and there's no guarantee Portland works their way out of the cellar any time soon.


If it was best of, I'd at least be thinking, well . . . maybe.


Me too, except for the fact that it's a '29 first. There is plenty Portland can do to ensure that the pick given up isn't a terribly valuable one in five years. If it were a '26 or even '27 first, I could at least think it was a 60/40 to 55/45 type deal, but as is, it just feels like we took it in the shorts. Bridges may be the better player, but he's also on an extension that is nearly twice as expensive and yet they got what, 3x the assets we got? It's a ridiculous compensation package for Deni.

I can deal with it, because I've wanted them to crater and implode for 3-4 more straight years, and this trade helps do that, but for like 1/2 the compensation I was expecting. It's an obviously crap trade.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#120 » by DCZards » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:41 pm

We better create some magic with that 14th pick.

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