Will EG make a move before the trade deadline?
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Pass_The_Sticks wrote:Kings Get:
Songaila
Pecherov
1st round
Wizards Get:
Artest
It doesn't work in the trade checker.
Some tweaks would need to be made.
Maybe Artest for Young, Songaila and Mason?
Arenas/Daniels
Stevenson/Daniels
Butler/Jamison
Artest/Jamison
Haywood/Blatche
We go to an established 8-man rotation (with Thomas and McGuire playing a few minutes here and there), and set Jamison up for the role he was made for - the 6th man.
Not that it will ever happen. First of all, I'm not sure Sacramento touches any trade where they have to take a player like Songaila back, and secondly, I don't think Jamison would be too happy with a 6th man role.
Oh, and Artest might go nuts at any moment.
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I just don't like trading nick young half a season in when he shown more flashes than most rookies we've ever got. as far as rookies we;ve had he's better than average. Besides he's part of our project for the future and the wiz as a franchise are not being pressured to make moves unlike other franchises. The reason I feel restless and want us to make a move is not due to internal or external pressure, its simply because alot of teams because of moves made are changing the landscape of their expectations. Because of moves by LA, PhX made moves, SA too, Houston as well, NO thought about it. Other teams are rebuilding and planning to win in the future (Portland, Memphis and Seattle). It's so defined what teams want to do. I feel it's possible to go into this landscape and help teams define themselves through salary and players and in return define yourself more. There's more pressure on these other teams that have commited to winning now or the future. We havent commited to either choice. Theres pressure on teams that have already begun moving players because their intentions are now clear. Teams are being forced to move due to other teams activities, I feel we should have conversations and try and discuss what we can get. If the lack of movement is due to loyalty to our players I respect that. In the long run perhaps free agents will chose to join our team due to the loyalty and the opportunity.
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BruceO wrote:I just don't like trading nick young half a season in when he shown more flashes than most rookies we've ever got. as far as rookies we;ve had he's better than average. Besides he's part of our project for the future and the wiz as a franchise are not being pressured to make moves unlike other franchises.
Are you serious? A guy averaging 6 ppg (THAT'S SIX POINTS PER FREAKING GAME) has shown more flashes than any other rookie we've ever had?!?!?!?!
Looks like the Kwame Khorus has found a new poster boy. Now I'll have to hear about unrealized potential for another 3 1/2 years before everybody ends up agreeing with me that this guy isn't going to turn out like they thought.
And what's this about the Wiz having a project for the future? What the heck have we been doing for the last few years, then? You can't keep perpetually developing young player after young player after young player. Eventually you have to decide who you're going to build around and make your run.
The Wiz pretty much have their core of players, including a longterm replacement for Jamison. WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE FUTURE PROJECTS. What we need are established vets who can help us go deep into the playoffs. Why am I the only one who sees this?
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Well you guys were saying Nick won't do anything this season, won't get minutes, won't score buckets and what not before he even played summer league and before the season began. Now that he actually does show potential of being a pretty good scorer in this league, you still don't buy his talents. Why rip on a guy whos pretty much playing to the expecations of a mid first round pick?
I'm glad some of you aren't running this team. You'd trade half the team overnight for overrated vets and useless cap space. Have some patience. Young doesn't have a case of lazyness like Kwame. Hes a blessed athlete whos coachable.
I'm glad some of you aren't running this team. You'd trade half the team overnight for overrated vets and useless cap space. Have some patience. Young doesn't have a case of lazyness like Kwame. Hes a blessed athlete whos coachable.
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The thing that kind of irritates me about the Wizards and the reason why I'm losing interest is because the 3 headed monster thing hasn't been working and won't work in the future because the best teams in the league are only getting better! They are further separating themselves from the Wizards.
Arenas, Butler, and Jamison are all wonderful people and easy to cheer for, but the team, as currently constructed, hasn't really ever done anything. I mean the only time that they have actually made any headlines is when Arenas was playing out of his mind for Dec. and Jan. of last year, but then came back to earth before getting hurt. The Wizards used the injuries to Butler and Arenas as a scapegoat last year, but ALL real fans know that they were really struggling before the injuries happened, and were nose-diving down the standing. Case in point, the Portland game last year, but that's a whole nother rant.
The big three method hasn't worked for 4 years and is only losing steam, yet the whole ploy the Wizards are trying to push is that "We had the best record when everyone was healthy last year." That argument is shallow and narrow-sided because they only had the top record in the east for 2 days, and even if they stayed up there for the rest of the season they wouldn't have been able to hang with any of the top 5 or 6 western conference teams had they made the finals.
I mean, even when fully healthy are the Wizards an elite team in the NBA? I think you'd be hard pressed to even find super-homers who'd honestly say that the Wizards could evenly duke it out with the likes of LA, San Antonio, Utah, Houston, or Phoenix in a seven game series?
I just keep thinking to myself that something will change and that the youngsters will come around and gel with the vet, but nothings really progressing. They still have the same bad coach, the same bad contracts (Songaila, Thomas, Daniels), and are spinning their wheels! Where is the direction?
Lately, teams have really been clearly showing their fan base what direction they are heading. They are either stripping cap to rebuild, or they are building for title runs. Unfortunately there are a few teams who haven't done anything over the past several years and are regressing. Washington and Indiana come to mind.
The frustrating aspect about it is that over the past 10 or so games Butler has been out and the Jamison lead Wizards look like a bona fide lottery team. Other "all-stars" play with similar casts of clowns and do well and are competitive. The Wiz have looked awful lately. Jamison has the largest expiring contract in the NBA and should have been able to fetch a mighty return, but what does EG do. Nothing, and what is likely to happen? They
Arenas, Butler, and Jamison are all wonderful people and easy to cheer for, but the team, as currently constructed, hasn't really ever done anything. I mean the only time that they have actually made any headlines is when Arenas was playing out of his mind for Dec. and Jan. of last year, but then came back to earth before getting hurt. The Wizards used the injuries to Butler and Arenas as a scapegoat last year, but ALL real fans know that they were really struggling before the injuries happened, and were nose-diving down the standing. Case in point, the Portland game last year, but that's a whole nother rant.
The big three method hasn't worked for 4 years and is only losing steam, yet the whole ploy the Wizards are trying to push is that "We had the best record when everyone was healthy last year." That argument is shallow and narrow-sided because they only had the top record in the east for 2 days, and even if they stayed up there for the rest of the season they wouldn't have been able to hang with any of the top 5 or 6 western conference teams had they made the finals.
I mean, even when fully healthy are the Wizards an elite team in the NBA? I think you'd be hard pressed to even find super-homers who'd honestly say that the Wizards could evenly duke it out with the likes of LA, San Antonio, Utah, Houston, or Phoenix in a seven game series?
I just keep thinking to myself that something will change and that the youngsters will come around and gel with the vet, but nothings really progressing. They still have the same bad coach, the same bad contracts (Songaila, Thomas, Daniels), and are spinning their wheels! Where is the direction?
Lately, teams have really been clearly showing their fan base what direction they are heading. They are either stripping cap to rebuild, or they are building for title runs. Unfortunately there are a few teams who haven't done anything over the past several years and are regressing. Washington and Indiana come to mind.
The frustrating aspect about it is that over the past 10 or so games Butler has been out and the Jamison lead Wizards look like a bona fide lottery team. Other "all-stars" play with similar casts of clowns and do well and are competitive. The Wiz have looked awful lately. Jamison has the largest expiring contract in the NBA and should have been able to fetch a mighty return, but what does EG do. Nothing, and what is likely to happen? They
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no D in Hibachi wrote:The thing that kind of irritates me about the Wizards and the reason why I'm losing interest is because the 3 headed monster thing hasn't been working and won't work in the future because the best teams in the league are only getting better! They are further separating themselves from the Wizards.
Arenas, Butler, and Jamison are all wonderful people and easy to cheer for, but the team, as currently constructed, hasn't really ever done anything. I mean the only time that they have actually made any headlines is when Arenas was playing out of his mind for Dec. and Jan. of last year, but then came back to earth before getting hurt. The Wizards used the injuries to Butler and Arenas as a scapegoat last year, but ALL real fans know that they were really struggling before the injuries happened, and were nose-diving down the standing. Case in point, the Portland game last year, but that's a whole nother rant.
The big three method hasn't worked for 4 years and is only losing steam, yet the whole ploy the Wizards are trying to push is that "We had the best record when everyone was healthy last year." That argument is shallow and narrow-sided because they only had the top record in the east for 2 days, and even if they stayed up there for the rest of the season they wouldn't have been able to hang with any of the top 5 or 6 western conference teams had they made the finals.
I mean, even when fully healthy are the Wizards an elite team in the NBA? I think you'd be hard pressed to even find super-homers who'd honestly say that the Wizards could evenly duke it out with the likes of LA, San Antonio, Utah, Houston, or Phoenix in a seven game series?
I just keep thinking to myself that something will change and that the youngsters will come around and gel with the vet, but nothings really progressing. They still have the same bad coach, the same bad contracts (Songaila, Thomas, Daniels), and are spinning their wheels! Where is the direction?
Lately, teams have really been clearly showing their fan base what direction they are heading. They are either stripping cap to rebuild, or they are building for title runs. Unfortunately there are a few teams who haven't done anything over the past several years and are regressing. Washington and Indiana come to mind.
The frustrating aspect about it is that over the past 10 or so games Butler has been out and the Jamison lead Wizards look like a bona fide lottery team. Other "all-stars" play with similar casts of clowns and do well and are competitive. The Wiz have looked awful lately. Jamison has the largest expiring contract in the NBA and should have been able to fetch a mighty return, but what does EG do. Nothing, and what is likely to happen? They
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Sure, but the board has ran through hundreds of Jamison trades to improve the team.
Gasol for Jamison, Pecherov, 1st.
Marion for Jamison 1st.
Brand for Jamison, Young, 1st.
Or how about EG become creative and use the expiring for a combination of helpful players, prospect, picks. Cleveland had expirings of Marshall, Newble, and Brown and turned that into a very beneficial blockbuster. They also got rid of dead weight contracts while they were at it. Wouldn't it have been nice if EG turned Jamison and Thomas into a slew of helpful and productive players to build around Arenas and Butler like Ferry was able to do for Lebron?
Gasol for Jamison, Pecherov, 1st.
Marion for Jamison 1st.
Brand for Jamison, Young, 1st.
Or how about EG become creative and use the expiring for a combination of helpful players, prospect, picks. Cleveland had expirings of Marshall, Newble, and Brown and turned that into a very beneficial blockbuster. They also got rid of dead weight contracts while they were at it. Wouldn't it have been nice if EG turned Jamison and Thomas into a slew of helpful and productive players to build around Arenas and Butler like Ferry was able to do for Lebron?
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