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Post#101 » by barelyawake » Wed Mar 18, 2009 4:50 pm

bulletproof_32 wrote:Reminds me a little of Townes Van Zandt with that baritone.


Glad you like. Yeah, well all those dudes are doing an impression of someone. I'm not a purest like that though -- crying foul of every ripoff. I understand Oasis is doing a Beatles impression. I still dig a few of their songs. I mean Grizzly Bear ought to be paying royalties to Chris Issak. Atmosphere might as well call themselves Sublime (part II). Speaking of, one of my favorite rock stories is how Led Zepplin got their name. I've told the story here years ago, but it's one of my favorite rock stories, so here goes again. So, Page was in the Yardbirds, before Zep, which was a mega band for it's day. So, Keith Moon (famous drummer of the Who, who famously died) asked Page what he was going to call his new band. And Page said he was thinking of naming it the New Yardbirds. Keith laughed and said, "That'll go over about as well as a (expletives deleted) lead balloon" -- thus, Led Zepplin.

Anyway, it doesn't bug me when a band rips off another artist's sound -- especially if the earlier artist isn't making records any more. I just acknowledge that they are, give more credit to the original, and keep dancin'. Speaking of, man every band on MTV now is doing a Rush impression -- like an over the top obvious one. Either Rush, Talking Heads or some punk band. Which is fine with me. I mean, it's not like Fugazi or Hüsker Dü are making albums. So, I like hearing their new stuff (in the form of other bands).
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Post#102 » by barelyawake » Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:51 am

COVERfest -- Bands paying respect to other bands' hits

I believe I've discovered a way to make these games bearable (I mean after Pine's pin-ups)... background music. I was searching for one cover and sorta went off on a tangent. Currently, on a coverfest. Probably going to roll with this concept for awhile...


White Stripes do Dylan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnG6043o ... L&index=46

Korn does Radiohead (doing the Pretenders)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv7zuDsns9w

OK Go does Kinks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQqo9njL ... re=related

Incubus does Big Pun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVSEPirU ... re=related

Tricky does Rakim
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5uz3ABu_eU

Pagoda does Hendrix (doing The Leaves)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0k5Zxb3 ... L&index=16

Flobots do Turtles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSvrCPFXAKs

Winehouse does Specials
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu3XcgI6VOA

Bowie does Arcade Fire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-wEBmLh ... re=related

Goldfinger does Nena (99 red balloons)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QYIlgRg9TY

Foo does Killing Joke
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZHwyQw_ ... re=related

Ben Gibbard does Michael Jackson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jdwm8TW-y0

Fall Out Boy does Michael Jackson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgmL2Leu ... re=related

Eels do Daniel Johnston
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBu9P8XlGM8

Bad Astronaut does NOFX
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sA7uKddu ... FA&index=3

Elbow does Massive Attack
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcYdICFTJuM

Dream Theater does Pink Floyd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIL_KE38 ... PL&index=3

Radiohead does Portishead
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7dM1F1Yw2Q

The Kooks do Coldplay
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCLqev7Fx2A

Seether does Nirvana
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZ0n-Gze ... re=related

Beck does Elliott Smith
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuFsR_MI ... re=related

A.P. Woodworth does Beasties
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CX2MA3kX ... r_embedded

Staind does Pearl Jam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8U1gbw5OeyQ

311 does Cure
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZqEqypU4cs

Fugees do Bob Marley
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA8UEWLUkd0

Snoop does Slick Rick & Doug E. Fresh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIMIFu7A ... re=related

No Doubt does Sublime
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgKX_k2IYjw

Fishbone does Tupac
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47fTU2cwU5Y

Korn does Public Enemy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoxleOCgAQU

Supergrass does the Police
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkoZEnBh ... re=related

Foo does Pink Floyd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl1_Rtkl ... re=related

Strokes do Ramones
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB8qyaEK ... re=related

Green Day does the Clash (doing Bobby Fuller)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TOVkiBE2r4

Minutemen do CCR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qOkC2ig ... re=related

Ignite do U2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jn5AslR ... re=related

Roots do Wu-tang
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceptIThq ... re=related

Primus does Metallica
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZDdrUi1 ... re=related

Red Hot Chili Peppers do Hendrix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pSLmxBh5cQ

NIN does Sabbath
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZ0tmt5a ... re=related

Tool does Led Zep
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzKWge4r ... re=related

Pantera does Metallica (for Band)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B38uiYpI ... re=related

Living Colour does Bad Brains
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUW9HyRBoDg

RATM does Cypress Hill
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtNorZ7NbnI

Korn does Cube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8e0ZkxPkBw

RATM does NWA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pdfo9tOn9cU

System of a Down does Wu-Tang
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVxszUSl_7Y

Beasties do Minor Threat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0NJD7Ts ... re=related

Ice T does Black Flag
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9-7XeClvTU

Nouvelle Vague does Dead Kennedys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hapufz1NFkY

Nirvana does the Melvins
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKfC3c0i ... L&index=19


And probably the best cover ever:
Shatner does Elton John (although Lucy in the Sky is better)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN3MGN89 ... re=related

LMAO even funnier:
Duran Duran do Public Enemy?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_k_BgzSDQNk


Then there is this, which is both hysterical and brilliant:
Messer Chups do Ministry
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdfMCFI_VtQ

Conclusion: Punks listen to reggae. Roots listen to blues. Metalheads listen to rap. Raps listen to punks. Pops listen to pops, who got their start w/ watered down blues. In otherwords, as we all knew, everything springs from reggae and blues.
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Post#103 » by barelyawake » Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:46 pm

Bump to ask the question I don't want to ask (because it will severely ruin my lil project here that is limited enough by YouTube), but Mods is it OK to post links to things with lyrics that are deemed curse words (by society -- personally I think there is no such thing)? If so, I'll delete a few of these. I've tried to maintain some level of self-censorship (you haven't seen what I didn't post). I'm sure I'm going to wish I didn't ask the question. But, I don't have kids. I'm just enjoying the journey of seeing how things have evolved from Band's day to current. I mean, most of the groundbreaking covers broke ground because they... you know... went against social standards. I've avoided the really sexual ones. Put it this way, if things are cool... no response is needed.
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Post#104 » by Zerocious » Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:51 pm

no response! good to go.

j/k, maybe put a warning by the link (eg. warning, explicit content after the jump)
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Post#105 » by doclinkin » Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:05 am

Less of a mash-up but more of a note-perfect cover:

Foo Fighters and System of a Down's Serj Tankian cover Dead Kennedys

barelyawake wrote:Bump to ask the question I don't want to ask (because it will severely ruin my lil project here that is limited enough by YouTube), but Mods is it OK to post links to things with lyrics that are deemed curse words (by society -- personally I think there is no such thing)? If so, I'll delete a few of these. I've tried to maintain some level of self-censorship (you haven't seen what I didn't post). I'm sure I'm going to wish I didn't ask the question. But, I don't have kids. I'm just enjoying the journey of seeing how things have evolved from Band's day to current. I mean, most of the groundbreaking covers broke ground because they... you know... went against social standards. I've avoided the really sexual ones. Put it this way, if things are cool... no response is needed.


A bit of (auditory) language ought to be fine, but on anything with an obvious obscenity in the title probably needs a note saying it's Not Safe For Work (NSFW). Shoot, with the softcore porn dancers and crotch shots, I have to duck game threads every now and again at work. Not that I'm complaining by any means...

That said, as far as Youtube limiting your audio choices, check out imeem. Online audio community suggests soundalike bands or songs, a great way to discover new bands or songs you haven't heard yet. If you just let it play it will keep rolling over to the next suggested song. (So the Foo Fighters DK cover instantly segues into their cover of Oasis's Lyla, for instance which might then jump to Oasis' acoustic version of wonderwall).

Like Youtube, but better, with audio-only tracks not just the video.
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Post#106 » by doclinkin » Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:40 am

My son tracking down freestyle artists and beatbox magicians wanted me to see this kid beatbox

In the Jungle.

Which turned into a productive hour showing each other various beatbox and acappella maestro's.

Him: Naturally Seven in the Paris Metro. Covering Phil Collins.

Eventually leading to Bobby McFerrin improvising with Bassist Richard Bona. Don't worry be happy may be insipid (ditto Phil Collins I suppose) but i can't deny McFerrin's genius. Beautiful. Loves to play.

I've seen him live at a jazz fest. Love the way he can work the crowd and turn them into his instrument. Here they become his keyboard. Who needs a loop pedal if you can get everybody to sing.
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Post#107 » by barelyawake » Sun Mar 22, 2009 12:37 pm

MORE GREAT COVERS

Well, on the censorship front, you know that signaling "explicit lyrics" sells a gold's-worth of CDs before a kid even knows what's inside the case. So, I figured either up or down. I'm an all-er-nothin' guy. I'll drink soda, coffee or water. You give me decaf or diet soda, you'll get a long stare, until I get reg. soda, reg. coffee or water.

Doc, yer kid's got great taste. Yeah, thanks on the music service. I had that thought earlier, but started on YouTube and sorta wanted to keep it uniform. Plus, I like watching bands play live. Here's the funny bit. I racked my noodle, while driving, trying to remember who did a good version of "Holiday in Cambodia." I was gunna hunt the net for one, but forgot. Of course, it ends up being Foo.

And I purposefully avoided Beatles or Sex Pistols covers, because there has to be something sacred on this God forsaken planet -- especially in these uncertain, economic times. And IMO if you allow Fall Out Boy (whom I like as a pop band) to play Sex Pistols, not only have the terrorists somehow won, but you're tempting the four horsemen to mount up. I only give White Stripes a pass on Dylan because, frankly, they do that song better. And hell, I'm sure I offended Band with Green Day doing the Clash -- which is a hangin' offense in pubs north of Sheffield. But, screw them soggy bastards:

Mighty Mighty do Clash
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t21Cr2ef ... re=related

Clash does Toots
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyv16mZakVE

Toots does Willie Nelson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Di5ulsuDe64


I'll get bored with this concept soon enough:

I Call Shotgun does Nelly
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-wkdbCc54c

Nostalgia 77 do White Stripes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNpidAAMQSo

Hi-Standard do Henry Mancini
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS0HpY8d ... re=related

Tricky does XTC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZzvugya ... re=related

Pixies do Jesus And Mary Chain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCBSOAYnUFc

Blue Oyster Cult does MC5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkdvWwY2yhs

Sex Pistols do Frank
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIXg9KUiy00

Dead Kennedys do Elvis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pklNF7uLwEM

Reel Big Fish does Duran Duran
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxNw1bgH ... xt_from=PL

New Found Glory does Celine Dion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR45zSH6 ... re=related

Suicide Machines do REM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DjtI4lG ... L&index=19

Flying Lizards do James Brown
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMS35kmWAUU

Beck does Bowie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsb_WUOI ... re=related

A Perfect Circle does Led Zep
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJoMmq-Hw9k

The London Phil. O. does Led Zep
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsD8f-N8gzg

The Balanescu Quartet does Kraftwerk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCKiYxzN ... L&index=15

Fantastic Plastic Machine does Eurythmics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gdQHS31fA8

SPF 1000 does Manson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYlOzKiD ... re=related

Evergreen Terrace do Tears for Fears
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXii_4L8MJw

NIN does Joy Division
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PDZC38doDM

Dropkick Murphys do ACDC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlqlJAEpTv8

A'ight I'm done. Too many songs either not on YouTube or I'm not willing to post because of language.
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Post#108 » by barelyawake » Tue Mar 24, 2009 2:18 am

lol ok maybe that was babble forget it...
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Post#109 » by bulletproof_32 » Tue Mar 24, 2009 4:41 am

I enjoyed your babbling barely.

I'll add the following:

Beck - Daniel Johnston:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pJaPXOH7Fc

Obadiah Parker - Outkast:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZFj_o1n6WE

Jeff Buckley - Leonard Cohen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AratTMGrHaQ

Damien Rice's version of Hallelujah:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEKCsSlK3jg

Ray LaMontagne - Gnarls Barkley
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mEfDSP4g_U

John Mayer - Radiohead:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmfZXZronW8

Pearl Jam - Dylan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2kk-v7NLr4

Ryan Adams - Oasis:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gVxRvNfFLg

David Gray - Killers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWMUMnwrn9o

Cracker - The Grateful Dead:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zenKPV3yyP0

Counting Crows getting in on the Grateful Dead action:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05H4tYefBmA

Dashboard Confessional - Weezer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDUR5-StjlQ

Death Cab for Cutie - The Stone Roses
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfYryLGU ... PL&index=7

Incubus - TLC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_RUnShImKM

Ben Lee - Modest Mouse:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzVLGJoTWcw

Eric Hutchinson basically doing every Justin Timberlake song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZzB0m-rmKM

Eric Hutchinson again doing Temptations/ R. Kelly medley:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWB9mKnF ... re=related

Nicklecreek - Pavement:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1pMfuq_f_s

NSFW covers -- headphones required:

Ben Folds doing - Dr. Dre
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_N3CK-6CHk

The Gourds - Snoop:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4hGSR5njZE

Right Side of the Tree - Lil Wayne
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU78NQtz ... annel_page
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Post#110 » by barelyawake » Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:00 pm

Nice choices, bullet. In fact, that Ben Lee pick was going to be my next post (before I gave up having searched for ten songs that weren't on YouTube). Modest Mouse needs to cover Talking Heads. And someone needs to cover Yes, My Life with the Thrill Kill Kult, and the Cult.
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Post#111 » by barelyawake » Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:49 pm

Bullet, not sure if you read the other music thread when it was around. And they took all the good Morphine videos off YouTube. But, I've said it here before in the previous music thread, if I were to pick one band to be my favorite of all time (I'd have to pause mentally on Beatles for awhile), but I would probably end on Morphine. I LOVE that stripped down James Dean style. T-Shirt, leather jacket, jeans -- anything that musically reflects that, I love. Mother by Danzig was a great song. Stigmata by Ministry was like that -- simple chords, simple beat, raw emotion. Early Sabbath. White Stripes first album. Early Lou Reed. Clash. I dig the crazy, the funny, the obscure, but what REALLY speaks to me is the bare bones emotion of an AC/DC or a Run DMC.

Of course, even when the music is simple, I like lyrically very complex songs. That's why Elliott Smith was so great. He was utterly cryptic, while making it appear simple. Same with Dylan. Same with Nirvana. Same with early punk. Same with early reggae. If I want complex, I have a stack of jazz/flamenco/classical. Rock is supposed to be simple.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJH4hXWu ... re=related

How great is that? Two string bass and listen to those lyrics. Perfect.
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Post#112 » by 20MexicanosIn1Van » Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:24 pm

One of my favorite covers:

Scary Kids Scaring Kids - Notorious B.I.G "Notorious Thugs"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ql65LbXSeO8
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Post#113 » by barelyawake » Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:54 pm

Got bored watching the game, so did more poetry dissection on Morphine, since I find it relaxin' (since I don't write songs anymore). I'm sure most could care less -- but, since Bullet is into songwriting...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJH4hXWu ... re=related

The Saddest Song

On my first day back, yeah, my first day back in town, yeah, my first day back in town,
(So, it's a homecoming. And he doubles it, and emphasizes the "yeah." It's as if he's selling that he's happy to be back, at least on the first day. The "saddest song" starts out happily.)

the clouds up above, they were, hummin' our song, hummin', hummin' our song.
(The whole world in this area reminds him of her. Humming is associated with joy. So, he's rushing back to her, obviously elated by love -- up in the clouds, almost dreamlike. He then repeats and harmonizes "hummin' our song," as if he's mimicking the lyrics -- which makes it sound like THIS song is "their song" the clouds were hummin'.)

And my biggest fear,
(Ironic turn. Peaceful, sky images and happily hummin' a love tune suddenly turns into his worst fear? Now, those clouds sound less puffy and white, and more signaling a storm.)

if I let you go,
(He's leaving? Why, if he is so lofted in love and racing back to her? Or did she leave, and he's "holding onto her?" Wait, did he mean up in the clouds in love or that the clouds personify her, as if she's in heaven? Is she dead? Death is the "biggest fear.")

come and get me in my sleep.
(Images of ghosts and nightmares. She only remains in his dreams. Notice he purposefully doesn't say "you'll come" -- which both makes the sentence an imperative, and makes it so the sentence purposefully doesn't bring her back to him.)

Come and get me, get me.
(Beckoning her to come back and take him to where she is. If she were alive, he could go to her and he wouldn't let her go. Then, the music waits for her to "come and get him.")

Well, I set my course, yeah, I sailed away from shore.
(So, we came into town; begged her to come back; and now we are sailing away. Before we were on land, in motion but stable, and now we are floating away. Is he still sleeping and dreaming this? Is he attempting to sail away from her memory? And another yeah -- reassuring himself of his choice.)

Steady as she goes.
(Controlled. He's not fleeing in panic. He's cooly guiding the ship, or attempting to convince himself that he is.)

A crash in the night
(So, now we went from hummin' in the daylight; to scared to death; to confidently captaining; to a calamity, lost at sea, in the dark. Re-occurring highs broken by tragedy)

two worlds collide.
(Not only are we sailing in the night, now we are steering an entire planet through the darkness of space (another indication she's in the heavens). So, before the planet was hummin' for them, now we have the entire universe involved in their love. "Two worlds collide" implies fate, destiny -- as in, how they met and how she was taken from him. We were confidently sailing away from her memory, but couldn't avoid crashing back into her.)

When two worlds collide no one survives, no one survives, yeah.
(Apocalypse. Catastrophic death. When she died, so did he -- and her memory repeatedly kills him. He doubles it to emphasize that both are dead. Another yeah to emphasize the finality of death -- not to mention to highlight the double meaning (as in, YES I mean dead literally). He feels responsible for her death (colliding into her), that's why she'd come back to haunt him.)

The reddest of reds,
(Images of blood -- especially since we jump right from crash, to apocalypse, to death, to red. He's completely bled out over her, making the image the "reddest" his body could expend.)

the bluest of blues,
(Which evokes New Orleans funeral jazz -- which is the bluest of the blues songs. Also now we know he's writing a love poem, "Rose are red, violets are blue." And, to him, it's the most important poem -- because he uses "est.")

the saddest of songs, I sing for you.
(Which is a dirge)

And then he sings it again. This whole process is going to repeat, night after night. And now that we know it's an ongoing dirge, it makes me re-evaluate the start. So, when he said it was his "first day back in town," it really wasn't. At least mentally, he's been back to this "place" (back when they were happy in love -- before she died) many times -- which is why he knows even the skies above it. And those "yeahs" in the first line now sound like him trying to reinforce to himself the lie that it's the "first day back," trying to force himself to remember the good parts of their love, and attempting to forget her death. And that's why there are several "first days" back in town, because he's relived this several times.

So, of course, the "Saddest Song" is about the death of a soul mate. Friggin' great song. And one of many by Sandman.
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Post#114 » by doclinkin » Mon Mar 30, 2009 2:55 pm

Loved that Morphine cut. In part what's appealing to me are ragged voices, imperfect, singing with powerful feeling and personal meaning. I get more from that then from the swoops and ululations of your average everyday radioplay R&B belters. Bob Dylan got famous with a horrible horrible voice you'd ask to change seats if he was talking to you about the stock market on a cross country flight. But strumming that toystore acoustic guitar and channelling woody guthrie through a preapocalyptic dirge, well it grabs a corner of your brain and twists a few analog sequencer knobs on your emotions and image-hallucination centers. Morphine, the guy sings the same way he plays that 2-string bass, managed to get all the range he needs out of it, and that says enough. Never heard that song before. Very very nice, a new favorite. Want more like it. Love the funkittafunkitta triangle. And the poetrix breakdown makes me want to re-start a poetry thread.

Other end of the technospectrum is Kutiman.

Video-audio mash-up artist. Has no band, not even a two-string bass. Instead he has you, and whatever clips you upload to the internet. Here a ridiculous high school kid bashing helloutofa drum kit with more energy than skill , juxtaposed with crisp 4-string greek buzuki fingerpicking and riffs, backed by moog synth, then overlaid with an Arabic vocal exhultant mawal. Comes off as the most kickass drum and bass multi-world electronica.

Check it.
Very cool stuff. Zonker would probably like this.

But in general for the internet audiovid mashup Kutiman is the balls.
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Post#115 » by barelyawake » Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:41 pm

doclinkin wrote:Loved that Morphine cut. In part what's appealing to me are ragged voices, imperfect, singing with powerful feeling and personal meaning.


And that's rock 'n roll to me. That's punk to me. Of course, I love Jimi Hendrix's ability to piece a song together out of guitar solos. Man was a genius beyond compare. If you've ever attempted to craft a song on guitar, you'll be shocked how that man's mind worked. Every song was literally a guitar solo that somehow was twisted into a frame enough so that it resembled a melody -- so that you could call it a song and sing lyrics over it. Listen to Voodoo Child (Slight Return) -- my favorite Hendrix song, that I play at least once a month. The song is incidental between the solos. Of course, I enjoy the modern MCR, or Fall Out Boy, or Modest Mouse, or New Found Glory's ability to showoff how clever and talented they are.

But, to me rock, punk, blues and soul is grit. I friggin' love that Nirvana were viewed as literally the worst band in Seattle. Musically, they were god awful. Dave was the only musician in the entire group. He could play every instrument. So, he taught them all enough to get by, doing punk covers. What made them great? Musical rawness backing a brilliant poet/madman -- always a thin line between those two. That is rock. I've said it here before, but rock is the fact that Chuck Berry played with a new band every town he went to; met them on stage; called out the song; and said, "Hit it." Rock is Sandman saying, "Well, actually I upgraded. I used to only use one bass string, now I use two." Rock is White Stripes. Just a basic drummer and a great guitarist, and that's it. Daniel Johnston playing piano and guitar so poorly that it becomes genius -- because it mimics the innocence of the words. That's the kind of heart I look for. And in modern terms, The Burden and White Stripes are the only guys who come close to giving it to me.

But, Sandman was a poet. Morphine songs have levels. And if you just look at first glance, you'll miss a great deal. And those are always my favorite songs. I like the cryptic songs that appear basic.

FYI very cool clips, Doc. Keep um comin'...

Rocco and Burden
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM_f1_-J ... 3&index=36

White Stripes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT3w6-cC ... re=related

Raconteurs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zy5Uyo-g ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqFb6VXW ... re=related
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Post#116 » by barelyawake » Thu Apr 2, 2009 1:35 am

Alright, continuing my breakdown of great songs while watching Wizard games. Let's do probably the most disturbing song in history IMO -- Polly by Nirvana. So, obviously if you are offended by disturbing poems, skip this...

First, I should tell you I know what this song is about (perhaps you do as well). So, it's not as though I have to puzzle through it's meaning. It's about a true story that deeply affected Kurt. I believe it happened in his hometown. A girl was kidnapped coming home from a punk rock show; she was raped and tortured for half a day; and she finally gained the assailant's trust and escaped.


Polly

Polly wants a cracker
(So, the image is of a parrot. Parrots live in a cage and mimic the owner's voice. To speak, they have to first listen to their owner and repeat exactly what he says. We have made the woman a pet, which dehumanizes her.)

Think I should get off her first.
(Sexual and controlling image. Being on top is an image of control. "Polly" has to be fed, rather than feed herself. Now, we first see the psychopathic tendencies of the speaker, because the voice doesn't know what is considered socially acceptable -- which continues throughout the song. It's as though he's attempting to remember what is the "right" thing to do in social circumstances, so that he can pretend to be "normal." Plus, there's a level of boredom in the speaker. Almost exasperated that he has to get off her to feed her.)

I think she wants some water,
(Why does he have to guess if she wants water? Why can't he ask her? Why is she unable to speak? Again, asking for water continues the sexual and control images -- either dehydrated after sex or a prisoner asking for bread and water, in this case crackers and water.)

To put out the blow torch.
(This is both a sexual and sadistic image -- "hot sex" and torture. However, the image of a blow torch is so stark compared to the malaise of the start, we tend to think he means an actual blow torch -- which he does. The girl, in real life, was tortured with a blow torch. Which, of course, makes the image all the more demented -- because he's pondering whether she wants the blow torch out or not.)

Isn't me
(So, now we are talking to Polly. Telling her she doesn't understand the "real" him. It's "not him," or "he doesn't want to have to be," torturing her.)

Haven't seen (have a seed)
(He sings these together. Two sides of a personality (voices in his head). He doesn't have a subject for this sentence. So, it could be she hasn't seen the real him (either inside, or literally -- as in she is blindfolded). Or it could be read that he doesn't know the real him. Or the world doesn't understand the real him. He's sharing his "inner thoughts" and sharing food with her. This, to him, is intimacy. Seed is both a play on sexuality and the parrot image.)

Let me clip your dirty wings.
(Which sounds as if it would be helpful -- in his opinion. Again, a moment of intimacy (for him). He sees the "dirty" part of her and wants to "fix" her. But, of course, the result is keeping her in control -- clipping her ability to fly. These "lets" imply that he's sharing power with her and allowing her to make choices.)

Let me take a ride
(Which, in the real story, is when she gets away. She gains his trust; he goes out in his truck; and he leaves her alone. Again, another "let" which makes it seem polite. And the word "ride" continues the sexual images. And as a sexual image, it implies he thinks there is, or he is asking for, consent.)

Cut yourself (don't hurt yourself)
(Again, these lines are sung together -- two sides of a personality. One believing this is an actual relationship -- where he's trying to "help" her. The other side is sadistic -- wanting to hurt her. It's also implying that he hopes she commits suicide, so he won't have to kill her -- and he's leaving so he doesn't have to watch. It also could be read that he believes that she would "cut herself," even when he stops hurting her.)

Want some help
(Again, no subject -- which makes it both a question to her and a statement from him. And carrying over from the last line, he is asking if she wants help to "cut herself," which again implies slitting wrists. So, he's almost tenderly asking if she wants help being put out of her misery.)

Please myself
(No one will help me, so I please myself. We've snapped back from "Mr. Nice Guy" to taking what we want. We are also almost arguing with ourselves -- since we first asked for help, and then chided ourselves that we please ourselves and don't need help.)

I've got some rope.
(Which is both a suicidal and masochistic image.)

You have been told.
(Both a line of domination and a reminder of a threat.)

I promise you, I have been true.
(Which could be either a statement of love and commitment or a threat. Either "I've been faithful to you" or "I was honest about what I will do with the rope.")

Let me take a ride, don't hurt yourself.
(Which implies that while he is gone, she can't function. It's almost motherly.)

I want some help. Help myself.
(Doubling the help is almost a plea, as if she/him are repeating "help" in desperation. It also implies that he's thinking of leaving to go get help -- either for her or himself. Read another way, he's asking her for help. This time, we add a subject (personalizing it) and admit we need help. We still maintain control, but we admit being disturbed and vulnerable.)

Polly wants a cracker.
Maybe she would like more food.

(So, the cracker doesn't mean food. It's a symbol for something she wants from him -- freedom. And she's been here, tied up, for at least long enough for one meal. Again, he seems so detached from normal human behavior that he doesn't even know how much to feed one -- and feeding times/amounts are the first things you ask about a new pet.)

She asked me to untie her. A chase would be nice for a few.
(Which is where we confirm that she is being held against her will, rather than simply in an S&M relationship. And he's treating it almost as a child's game of tag. He's still searching for anything that will make him feel "excited." Maybe chasing her around will interest me for a few minutes, before I go back to feeling nothing. Plus, this is the first time we know she is able to speak -- making her more human (less of a pet). It also means he's listening, deepening their releationship.)

Polly says her back hurts. And she's just as bored as me.
(The girl is trying to feign disinterest in sex, and tells him he's hurting her, so he'll stop. This also implies that she is faking being in this "relationship" with him. She is speaking to him as if he would care about her feelings, which implies an exchange of feelings. In return, he is matching her mind set, attempting to say they are kindred spirits. And he is further telling us that nothing in this world causes emotion in him. Not even sex. He's completely detached.)

She caught me off my guard. Amazes me, the will of instinct.
(She managed to gain his trust and got away. Since he finds everything in this life dull -- he could live or die and it wouldn't matter -- it shocks him that someone would care enough to struggle to survive. And he seems almost proud of her, again continuing to imply this emotional connection -- this relationship he's concocted in his mind. And use of the word instinct continues the concept that she is a pet/animal.)

Probably the most disturbing song I've ever heard. More disturbing than any death metal or gangster rap song because: A) it's real and B) it explores the demented "affection" this guy feels for his victim -- while obviously acting unmistakably evil towards her. That said, it's a brilliantly worded poem -- thick with double and triple meanings.
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Post#117 » by barelyawake » Thu Apr 2, 2009 9:53 pm

So, I get in my car this afternoon to go to my lawyer's, and what are they talking about on the radio (no, what is the first WORD that comes out of my radio)? Parrots. That's a bit friggin' odd. You must admit.
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Post#118 » by barelyawake » Sat Apr 4, 2009 4:09 pm

Utterly random clips -- which is how I usually listen to music:

LOL This is for Doc and Band. I totally forgot about this album/band (The Junior Cypress Hill -- Funkdoobiest):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxlhD-rz ... re=related

If someone here knew about Maps & Atlases, and didn't speak-up, they deserve a stern talking to. These guys are great:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXYWu99M ... re=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO2wb_wMgN4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad0c_fCr ... re=related

Minus The Bear - When We Escape
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsZGfzPi ... 72&index=4

Good old War (They are sooo doing a Paul Simon impersonation -- but still, a pretty good band)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUdjR3-B ... re=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa6-f6Hl ... re=channel

And I wish I were a Wombats' fan. I love, musically, almost every song they have ever written. Love the singer's voice. And many of the songs have cool, witty lyrics. Unfortunately, I can't find one damn song that doesn't have at least one line lyrically that ruins the entire song for me... except maybe this song (which is a cover lol):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0IUNnVZ ... re=related

More White Stripes (just because):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fM2qhG8 ... re=related

Don Caballero - In The Absence Of Strong Evidence (music no lyrics)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6qaKqNJ ... L&index=26

Blind Idiot God - Stealth Dub (music no lyrics)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUgw90mr ... re=related

Fatboy Slim does Nirvana
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQqN4gCA ... re=related

May start a mash-up phase...
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Post#119 » by doclinkin » Sat Apr 4, 2009 5:08 pm

On Funkdoobiest:

The cadence
of those vagrants
was reminiscent of another
they stole they lope from DAS EFX--
truth to text, word to mother.

Difference-- necessarily-- they dropped all that "-iggety"
but the stop and go flow got stole directly, no diggetty.

I saw Funkdoobiest a couple times in live outdoor shows, usually with some low rent rock group. Forget who. Yeah they had the pseudo DJ Muggs production, Cypress Lite, without the hypernasal grimy creative cartoon flavor of B-Real, nor the Chuck D mimic vocals 'what he said' chorus of Sen Dog. But in delivery they took the gaps and pauses of a group like DAS EFX. Who in and of themselves were eh- alright. Like Onyx, a one-gimmick deal that left no real ripples in the pond. Seems to me.

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Thinking of unique voices that express a ton of character without a ton of frills. I've had the song 'Low' by Cracker stuck in my head the past few days.

Here's a live version. Though I like the original as well.
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Post#120 » by barelyawake » Sat Apr 4, 2009 5:31 pm

Like Onyx, a one-gimmick deal that left no real ripples in the pond. Seems to me.

No, I didn't mean that Funkdoobiest were influential (far from, I mean, they were a'ight). I'm just sayin' I forgot they even existed. And just happened to run into it.

Funkdoobiest w/ Cypress
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nv-j6vdB ... L&index=55

And yep, I'm a Cracker fan too.

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