Bradley Beal - Part II

[Kanyewest]

The main thing for him is to keep his dribble alive and look to get to the rim rather than settle for long 2s when they run him off the 3 point line. He did a good job getting to the basket yesterday, under control unlike Wall.

When Beal plays like he did last night, he's the best Wizard on the floor. Hopefully he keeps it up.

lets not overreact. The best version of Wall is better and more impaxtful theb the best version of Beal but I feel Beal has a chance to be the more consistent player. However, some of that is due to him playing with Wall

Wall at his best has had better nights. Still, Beal's last night was better than what Wall's average night is. For now, Wall is the better player although if Beal can replicate these nights regularly, then he might be better than Wall. I'm not expecting Beal to shoot 53% from the field and average 29.1 ppg per 36 minutes though.

[Kanyewest]

Glad to have Beal back. He didn't look like he missed time at all. He'll only get better moving forward.

A shame he got hurt or my prediction of him making the All-Star team would definitely happen.

On the plus side Washington is 7-3, so they could command two all stars. Looks like Beal's primary compeition to make the team are Demar Derozan, Jimmy Butler, and Dwayne Wade. Beal could beat Wade in terms of merit since Wade has already missed a couple of games but it looks like Wade could be voted in as an All Star.

[tontoz]

If there is one guy who can benefit more than anyone from having Pierce around it's Beal. They aren't competing for minutes. If Beal could add some of Pierce's craftiness off the dribble it would take his game to a different level.

[hands11]

http://www.monumentalnetwork.com/videos ... e-11-19-14

So good to have BB back. Young man is so mature. Love his approach.

Nice to hear the booth get up for Beals return.

And man Beal and Otto out there together looks like a great fit.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JluumyGhe18[/youtube]

[gambitx777]

Rust? what is rust? Good to have BB back, now we can start to get a look at what our team really has this year!

[dlts20]

Rust? what is rust? Good to have BB back, now we can start to get a look at what our team really has this year!

dont be so quick to axe the rust stuff. Im hoping but Ive seen alot of guys go off in the 1st game back and maybe even the 2nd with the adrenaline going but then reality kicks in and they are rusty for a couple of weeks. Either way I expect Beal to have a great year and career. I dont think he ever shoots below 45% again

[stevemcqueen1]

Beal's scoring looks absolutely deadly. I think he's making the leap. I thought it would come next year but it looks like it'll happen this season. His confidence out there is palpable. The boy knows he's good.

Consequently, I think Beal kills any talk that Drummond should have been drafted ahead of him this season. He's going to make the leap to perennial AS playing for a contender well before Detroit makes any sort of move with Drummond.

[stevemcqueen1]

Thank GOD we didn't trade Beal for Harden. I hate Harden and would HATE rooting for a team with him on it. Hate the way he plays the game. He and Kevin Love and Kyrie Irving are three of the worst "Great Players" I can remember. Bunch of frauds every one of them.

Beal is going to be better than his bum ass by the end of this season or next.

[hands11]

Thank GOD we didn't trade Beal for Harden. I hate Harden and would HATE rooting for a team with him on it. Hate the way he plays the game. He and Kevin Love and Kyrie Irving are three of the worst "Great Players" I can remember. Bunch of frauds every one of them.

Beal is going to be better than his bum ass by the end of this season or next.

Agreed. I was hoping Beal was our pick early in that draft process. He was the right fit for what we needed and to help Wall develop ( there has been a lot that has gone into developing Wall and that process this isn't over ), and Beal is just such a nice young man. He is someone that can be a face of your franchise as a person and is skills and confidence are core to building this franchise. Im sure his teammates love him.

Liking the player is important to me when it comes to the team I root for. I wouldn't like cheering for a Harden. Never cared for Portis so it was hard for me to watch the Skins back then. But yeah, there are a several good players in the league I wouldnt enjoy cheer for.

Harden. Howard, LeBron are all good but I wouldn't really want any of them here.

I don't actually hate Love but haven't watched him enough. I have seen Kyrie interviewed enough that I think he is a nice young man that will mature into a star. He is still learning and hasn't figured out how to use his talent on a good team yet. But Kyrie is still just 22. Wall had his challanges. I think Kyrie can learn if mentored properly like Wall has been.

But Beal. His mother made and molded that quiet assassin. She was a baller and started on him early regarding his shooting form. And clearly had a ton to do with who he is as a person.

Beal is my favorite Wizard. I hated the idea of trading him for Harden. I would rather lose with Beal and win with Harden if those were my choices.

[stevemcqueen1]

Hands, it's important for me to like the players on the team I root for too. And I agree, Kyrie Irving does seem like a nice guy. I don't really enjoy watching him play but I don't hate him at all.

Harden I hate. And it's not about him personally, although he did seem like a big jerk when he said that only he and Dwight mattered on his team. I hate him because of his style of play. I can't stand watching that cheap ass way he gets foul calls by jumping into players and flailing his head back at every contact. And I can't stand the way he is always touching opponents and initiating contact constantly, even during dead balls. He's creepy. And I'll never forget the way he cheesed the ref into calling a foul on Ariza to win that game last year. Cheap player. Stupid player too, people don't realize what a chucker he is because he gets to the line so much, but the guy settles for bad shots on lazy possessions all the time. And on top of that he gives no effort defensively, which is what annoys me about Kevin Love and Kyrie Irving too. That dude has the physical tools to be one of the best defensive players at his position in the NBA but he has zero heart.

He gets exposed in the playoffs literally the moment the refs stop giving him all those trash foul calls because his entire game is predicated on that. He plays basketball like a bitch.

[DCZards]

But Beal. His mother made and molded that quiet assassin. She was a baller and started on him early regarding his shooting form. And clearly had a ton to do with who he is as a person.

I think the credit goes to Beal's family (father, brothers, etc.), not just his mother, for the person and player he's turned out to be.

[hands11]

Hands, it's important for me to like the players on the team I root for too. And I agree, Kyrie Irving does seem like a nice guy. I don't really enjoy watching him play but I don't hate him at all.

Harden I hate. And it's not about him personally, although he did seem like a big jerk when he said that only he and Dwight mattered on his team. I hate him because of his style of play. I can't stand watching that cheap ass way he gets foul calls by jumping into players and flailing his head back at every contact. And I can't stand the way he is always touching opponents and initiating contact constantly, even during dead balls. He's creepy. And I'll never forget the way he cheesed the ref into calling a foul on Ariza to win that game last year. Cheap player. Stupid player too, people don't realize what a chucker he is because he gets to the line so much, but the guy settles for bad shots on lazy possessions all the time. And on top of that he gives no effort defensively, which is what annoys me about Kevin Love and Kyrie Irving too. That dude has the physical tools to be one of the best defensive players at his position in the NBA but he has zero heart.

He gets exposed in the playoffs literally the moment the refs stop giving him all those trash foul calls because his entire game is predicated on that. He plays basketball like a bitch.

Wow.. sorry.. but you kind of just described Gil right there LOL

Even the creepy beard.

Differences. Mostly Gil was a fun interview, except after the fun thing. And he played for us when we sucked so anything that look star quality was like wow.

And Gil might not of done as much annoying flop stuff out of the blue but the rest, that was pretty much Gil. Head going back and everything. Lots of drive with the sole reason being to get a foul. Lots of FTs. Gun chucking 3s. No defense.

With Beal. I have seen him interviewed enough to know how much I respect him as a person. I get a Beal and I like what he is about. I get his drive. His humility. His mom. One the court and off.

I was well documented in my distrust of Gil being a best player and non leader/leader of that other team. It just wasnt anything I had faith in. Beal. I have faith in that young man. I would lend him my car and I have never even meet him.

[hands11]

But Beal. His mother made and molded that quiet assassin. She was a baller and started on him early regarding his shooting form. And clearly had a ton to do with who he is as a person.

I think the credit goes to Beal's family (father, brothers, etc.), not just his mother, for the person and player he's turned out to be.

I wasnt trying to exclude the rest of his family or other coaches. But he talks about his mother a lot. He says she taught him his shooting form starting with a nerf. She was a player. And he says she gets on him if he messes up even to this day. And she thinks she still has a better shot then him.

Just going by what Beal has said.

I believe two of his brothers still live with him so yes. Its a family thing. I'm big on the effect that can have on a players stability and grounded confidence.

Not a requirement to be a mom and dad. My understanding is Jimmy Butler had a rough road. But even like Mike Tyson, someone usually steps in to help them reach their goals. I was said when Mike turned away from the people that had been their for him. And that the old man died. I know that would be hard on him. Once he got with King, I know it was all down hill. And man was it ever.

People need people around them that love them and that they trust. Young people need good mentors.

[KrayzUpside]

Is Bradley Beal worth the max? Yes he can shoot but so can a lot of other guys for a lot less than the max. I think with Ariza leaving we see that its really all about John Wall. He can make all most anybody with talent look good. Beal just hasn't shown himself to be the kind of play maker that warrants a max contract. And then there is the health issue. Don't get me wrong, I'd like him to be on this team long term. I just don't want to regret wrapping up so much money on the back court when a long term solution at power forward is needed.

[Hypnotizer]

http://www.csnwashington.com/basketball ... 45-seconds

[Hypnotizer]

Dagger! (Wiz at Magic)

[tontoz]

Last year Beal was a poor shooter from 5-22 feet, making only 38%. So far this year he has been far worse, shooting 29%.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... rder_by=fg

The only good news is that his attempts in that area are down by over 2 shots per game relative to last year.

[dckingsfan]

Last year Beal was a poor shooter from 5-22 feet, making only 38%. So far this year he has been far worse, shooting 29%.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... rder_by=fg

The only good news is that his attempts in that area are down by over 2 shots per game relative to last year.

Really, Bradley hasn't improved statistically much this year. Give the injury it is understandable but it is still worrisome. Really, not much progress across the board - we really need for him to step up soon.

[J-Ves]

This is Beals 3rd year, if he doesn't make the jump this year we have to accept that what we see is what he is. A great shooter from three and not much else. We had a similar problem with Wall in his third year, many on this board called for a trade after he returned from injury and was preforming poorly... until he started playing like an allstar. With Beal, I think the situation is a little more dire, as his lack of handles will always limit his upside. Yeah, he might have a big assist game from time to time, as his passing and court vision are good, and sometimes hes able to get to the rim, but his poor ball handling will lead to bad TOs way too often, even with minimal pressure. On top of that the coaching staff fails to recognize how poor a shooter he is from mid-range, making him an inefficient scorer, which is the one thing he should excel at.

I don't know at what point you take the "budding star" label off and just accept hes merely a decent starter, but if he doesn't make the leap soon we(that includes the Wizards organization) need to come to terms with reality.

[Nivek]

This is Beals 3rd year, if he doesn't make the jump this year we have to accept that what we see is what he is. A great shooter from three and not much else. We had a similar problem with Wall in his third year, many on this board called for a trade after he returned from injury and was preforming poorly... until he started playing like an allstar. With Beal, I think the situation is a little more dire, as his lack of handles will always limit his upside. Yeah, he might have a big assist game from time to time, as his passing and court vision are good, and sometimes hes able to get to the rim, but his poor ball handling will lead to bad TOs way too often, even with minimal pressure. On top of that the coaching staff fails to recognize how poor a shooter he is from mid-range, making him an inefficient scorer, which is the one thing he should excel at.

I don't know at what point you take the "budding star" label off and just accept hes merely a decent starter, but if he doesn't make the leap soon we(that includes the Wizards organization) need to come to terms with reality.

With players as young as Beal and Wall, I don't think it's wise to take a "what you see is what you get" view as early as we might if they'd gone to two or three years of college. Assuming they work hard, there's no reason to think they can't/won't improve significantly through age 25-26. I think Beal's peak is likely another 4-5 years away. Wall's is probably another 1-2 from now.

That said, I'd like to see more improvement from Beal in the non-three-point shooting aspects of his game.

And, that said, when I ran Beal's numbers from last year through my statistical doppelganger machine (looking for similar production at a similar age), the guys who turned up were mostly role-playing 3pt specialists, not stars.