2021 Draft Thread - Part II

Post #1001 » by **Ruzious** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:33 am

Aaron Wiggins goes at 55 to OKC! CCJ said he'd get drafted, and I was foolish enough to doubt him.

gambitx777 · Post #1002 » by **gambitx777** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:35 am

I would love to have ayayi I had him as a late first and he's probably one of the better guards left.

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WallToWall · Post #1003 » by **WallToWall** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:47 am

doclinkin wrote:Rich get richer. Charles Bassey to the sixers as well.

Wish we could have bought this pick and taken Bassey

payitforward · Post #1004 » by **payitforward** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:49 am

All in all it's been a very good day for the Wizards. Almost too much to digest. We're a different team. Yet... there was so much more possible for us in R2.

Guys with real promise went in the 50s tonight. Was it really not possible for us to get a shot in? I hope we are very active in the next 24 hours, b/c there are guys we definitely could use who did not hear their names called.

doclinkin · Post #1005 » by **doclinkin** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:51 am

payitforward wrote:Nah... I'll stay up. Charles Bassey to Philly. Another guy I'd love us to have.

I tell you what... sign up Justin Champagnie after the draft, & the night will have been more than satisfying.

And Ayayi

queridiculo · Post #1006 » by **queridiculo** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:07 am

WallToWall wrote:
PaulinVA wrote:

Read on Twitter
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Guards are a dime a dozen. I would not sweat it too much.

So what exactly was the point of the Holiday deal, such terrible business.

Post #1007 » by **Ruzious** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:23 am

queridiculo wrote:
WallToWall wrote:
PaulinVA wrote:

Read on Twitter
?s=20

Guards are a dime a dozen. I would not sweat it too much.

So what exactly was the point of the Holiday deal, such terrible business.

Tommy didn't exactly make the best use of his assets there, lol. Holiday's no more than a passable backup PG and probably less. We have Beal and to be determined in our backcourt, lol.

DCZards · Post #1008 » by **DCZards** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:33 am

Ruzious wrote:
queridiculo wrote:
WallToWall wrote:Guards are a dime a dozen. I would not sweat it too much.

So what exactly was the point of the Holiday deal, such terrible business.

Tommy didn't exactly make the best use of his assets there, lol. Holiday's no more than a passable backup PG and probably less. We have Beal and to be determined in our backcourt, lol.

I dunno. Seems to me that Tommy took that LA pick and got the player I believe he wanted—Isaiah Todd—as well as a passable backup PG on a reasonable contract.

What remains to be seen is how Tommy addresses the starting PG situation.

queridiculo · Post #1009 » by **queridiculo** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:39 am

DCZards wrote:
Ruzious wrote:
queridiculo wrote:
So what exactly was the point of the Holiday deal, such terrible business.

Tommy didn't exactly make the best use of his assets there, lol. Holiday's no more than a passable backup PG and probably less. We have Beal and to be determined in our backcourt, lol.

I dunno. Seems to me that Tommy took that LA pick and got the player I believe he wanted—Isaiah Todd—as well as a passable backup PG on a reasonable contract.

What remains to be seen is how Tommy addresses the starting PG situation.

Really, you think Sheppard's masterplan was to trade Westbrook so he could end up with Isaiah Todd?

NatP4 · Post #1010 » by **NatP4** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:44 am

I’ll be honest, I’m a little confused with the direction. The Westbrook trade was brilliant, but the Kispert and Todd picks are pretty meh, and Aaron Holiday is nothing more than a replacement level backup PG. there were a ton of good players that went in round 2 that the wizards could've jumped in on.

I’m just confused at this point

Post #1011 » by **Ruzious** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:45 am

DCZards wrote:
Ruzious wrote:
queridiculo wrote:
So what exactly was the point of the Holiday deal, such terrible business.

Tommy didn't exactly make the best use of his assets there, lol. Holiday's no more than a passable backup PG and probably less. We have Beal and to be determined in our backcourt, lol.

I dunno. Seems to me that Tommy took that LA pick and got the player I believe he wanted—Isaiah Todd—as well as a passable backup PG on a reasonable contract.

What remains to be seen is how Tommy addresses the starting PG situation.

The rumor that people talked about was Dinwiddie, but I'm not sure that's even possible, since he declined the player option on his contract with Brooklyn - so I believe he's a UFA. Tbh, I wouldn't have any interest in Dinwiddie given he's going to get paid a lot of money and doesn't appear to be a good team player. The Cleveland situation is intriguing because they acquired a PG in Rubio and still have 2 smallish combo guards in Garland and Sexton. Wondering if we can get one of them. I know Beal loves Garland. Sexton's better than Garland, but Garland's good. Not sure what the price for either of them is - hoping Cleveland would have an interest in Kuzma.

Post #1012 » by **Ruzious** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:52 am

NatP4 wrote:I’ll be honest, I’m a little confused with the direction. The Westbrook trade was brilliant, but the Kispert and Todd picks are pretty meh, and Aaron Holiday is nothing more than a replacement level backup PG. there were a ton of good players that went in round 2 that the wizards could've jumped in on.

I’m just confused at this point

Exactly right. I have no idea what their direction is. Maybe they have something big coming up, but I have no idea. And even though I think Todd has good potential, they should have been much more creative with that 22nd pick. There was so much quality in that 2nd round, and we didn't take advantage of it.

gambitx777 · Post #1013 » by **gambitx777** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:56 am

Would everyone have preferred we took Todd at 22? And paid him double what we are gonna pay him? If tommy liked Todd, which let's be honest here is not a bad prospect. I commend him for trading back for a guy he liked and not spending more money on him and getting a useful bench player. He could have taken him at 22 and caused a real melt down for everyone here.

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NatP4 · Post #1014 » by **NatP4** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:57 am

Ruzious wrote:
NatP4 wrote:I’ll be honest, I’m a little confused with the direction. The Westbrook trade was brilliant, but the Kispert and Todd picks are pretty meh, and Aaron Holiday is nothing more than a replacement level backup PG. there were a ton of good players that went in round 2 that the wizards could've jumped in on.

I’m just confused at this point

Exactly right. I have no idea what their direction is. Maybe they have something big coming up, but I have no idea. And even though I think Todd has good potential, they should have been much more creative with that 22nd pick. There was so much quality in that 2nd round, and we didn't take advantage of it.

How about 4 consecutive picks of Queta, Butler, Wieskamp, and Livers.........And we picked Todd at 31.

This roster would look terrific with a Jared Butler penciled in at PG.

Post #1015 » by **Ruzious** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:02 am

gambitx777 wrote:Would everyone have preferred we took Todd at 22? And paid him double what we are gonna pay him? If tommy liked Todd, which let's be honest here is not a bad prospect. I commend him for trading back for a guy he liked and not spending more money on him and getting a useful bench player. He could have taken him at 22 and caused a real melt down for everyone here.

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I wouldn't have picked Todd before 40. If I was going for a developmental big forward like Todd, I preferred JT Thor - who went 37th. And when we traded down, it shouldn't have been to get Holiday; it should have been to get one of the PG's picked in the 2nd round, imo.

Gig18 · Post #1016 » by **Gig18** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:05 am

I'm waiting to see how PG shakes out; have no idea if the Dinwiddie thing is doable or good.
but hey, Kispert was the best shooter in the draft --- and shooting is the most sought-after tool in the game right now. I think we should reserve judgement on Holiday --- he might be pretty good with playing time. And I like Todd. Oddly enough, nbadraft.net likened him to Gafford. I think he's a better offensive player.
and we also have --- at least for the moment --- Kuzma, a good-to-serviceable player, Harrell ---- a hard-working, blue-collar, defense-playing, fire-breather --- and KCP, a pretty good player that the Wiz have been interested in for like 2 years.
it's definitely different. and Brad is still here.

NatP4 · Post #1017 » by **NatP4** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:06 am

I would’ve been thrilled with Kispert and Butler or Springer. I will definitely say, I am happy with the Kispert, based on what was available at 15. He’s a very good player and one of the smartest and most competitive players in the draft. He’ll do nothing but make the right play and shoot the absolute lights out. Underrated defender and all around scorer also. He’ll be a weapon immediately. Kyle Korver 2.0. Really good pick.

NatP4 · Post #1018 » by **NatP4** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:12 am

We also picked up Jay Huff, which is great news.

WallToWall · Post #1019 » by **WallToWall** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:22 am

NatP4 wrote:We also picked up Jay Huff, which is great news.

Good prospect. If he puts on some pounds and gets stronger, he would make for a good backup C. He is listed as a PF, but I don’t think he has the foot speed to compete as one.

doclinkin · Post #1020 » by **doclinkin** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:25 am

NatP4 wrote:We also picked up Jay Huff, which is great news.

Confirmed? Where. I like Huff, way underrated. Sneaky athletic for a true 7'1" center.