Official 2023 Wizards OFFSEASON Thread

[joshuacf]

One thing to keep in mind is that, with so many of our players having been added recently, we are somewhat restricted on who we can move, and who can be packaged together. Most of the vets are we looking to offload (Muscala, Gallinari, Shamet) can't be packaged with other players until August 23rd. So if we were planning a big BOYD trade for some $20+M contract, it can't be done until the end of the summer.

I’m starting to wonder what we might be able to get for Tyus Jones. I like Jones, I wanted him last offseason instead of Morris. But he is an expiring, and most likely not a player we are going to keep long term so it may make sense to move him while we can get something in return. Delon Wright also. But a team like Toronto who just lost Van Fleet might be interested, or any team looking for a PG and not finding a lot of options out there.

Toronto could be interested in former Raptor Wright, and a Delon for Precious swap works in the trade checker.

This trade is such a no brainer. Precious is worth a shot, small C with the ability to defend the perimeter (something Gaff can’t do).

Achiuwa is worth way more than Delon, I think. Achiuwa is 23 going into his fourth NBA season. He still has a lot of room to get better.

[nate33]

I’m starting to wonder what we might be able to get for Tyus Jones. I like Jones, I wanted him last offseason instead of Morris. But he is an expiring, and most likely not a player we are going to keep long term so it may make sense to move him while we can get something in return. Delon Wright also. But a team like Toronto who just lost Van Fleet might be interested, or any team looking for a PG and not finding a lot of options out there.

Toronto could be interested in former Raptor Wright, and a Delon for Precious swap works in the trade checker.

This trade is such a no brainer. Precious is worth a shot, small C with the ability to defend the perimeter (something Gaff can’t do).

Achiuwa is worth way more than Delon, I think. Achiuwa is 23 going into his fourth NBA season. He still has a lot of room to get better.

I dunno. Achiuwa hasn't really been very successful as a pro. His shooting efficiency and rebounding is sub-par for a center and he has had a consistently poor on/off differential when he is on the floor. Toronto's acquisition of Poeltl initiated a significant turnaround not in small part to Achiuwa being relegated to the bench.

Also, Achiuwa has just one year on his deal at which point he becomes a RFA. I don't know how interested Toronto will be in keeping him when they just resigned Poeltl to a $20M per year contract. If one assumes they don't intend to keep him, then we are just comparing one year of Wright versus one year of Achiuwa. And in that comparison, Wright is the better player who also fills a much greater need for Toronto.

I think it's a very good trade idea - particularly in light of the fact that the Wizards just relinquished their RFA rights on Huff. I like the idea of a Gafford/Achiuwa tandem at center. Gafford is the bigger rim protector for drop coverage schemes. Achiuwa is the wiry, agile guy who can switch onto the perimeter.

[payitforward]

Precious Achiuwa is nowhere near as good a player as Delon Wright.

OTOH, he may be worth more in a trade nonetheless. Just b/c, as Joshuacf wrote, he is only 23. &, of course, his age alone makes him worth more than Wright to the Wizards.

That said, I'd be more interested in a trade that brought us some draft capital.

[mhd]

Precious Achiuwa is nowhere near as good a player as Delon Wright.

OTOH, he may be worth more in a trade nonetheless. Just b/c, as Joshuacf wrote, he is only 23. &, of course, his age alone makes him worth more than Wright to the Wizards.

That said, I'd be more interested in a trade that brought us some draft capital.

Yup. I want picks for Delon. Miami gave up on Precious for a reason. He’s physically built for the Raptors system, and yet they go out and get Poetl instead. That is telling. Would rather have a free Huff.

[gambitx777]

Man started off hot then no movement at all!

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[pcbothwel]

I cant imagine that we wont use at least a portion of our MLE.
Who fits a need a could be flipped for an asset later?
Christian Wood, Bamba, Diallo, Terence Davis, Thybulle, Windler, Nathan Knight, Paul Reed.

My vote would be to sign my former draft fav, Paul Reed, and then move Wright and back fill with Diallo.
Young, versatile, defense focused players that can allow Deni, Kispert, and Deni to get up shots.

[payitforward]

I cant imagine that we wont use at least a portion of our MLE.
Who fits a need a could be flipped for an asset later?
Christian Wood, Bamba, Diallo, Terence Davis, Thybulle, Windler, Nathan Knight, Paul Reed.

My vote would be to sign my former draft fav, Paul Reed, and then move Wright and back fill with Diallo.
Young, versatile, defense focused players that can allow Deni, Kispert, and Deni to get up shots.

Reed is a terrific idea.
Ditto Diallo.
& of course I would love to add Nathan Knight!

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I'm pretty confused on the offseason to this point. They salvaged the Beal trade with Poole and the young guys/picks. The rest of it, I just don't get it - keeping the vets on the roster while younger players around the league are traded, especially.

Maybe they're going to trade Kispert and Deni for first round picks down the road, and ride with vets this year to 30 wins? Keeps us in the lottery, opens up the opportunity for more trades mid-season, and helps in the future.

[FAH1223]

I'm pretty confused on the offseason to this point. They salvaged the Beal trade with Poole and the young guys/picks. The rest of it, I just don't get it - keeping the vets on the roster while younger players around the league are traded, especially.

Maybe they're going to trade Kispert and Deni for first round picks down the road, and ride with vets this year to 30 wins? Keeps us in the lottery, opens up the opportunity for more trades mid-season, and helps in the future.

It’s easy to see what they’re doing. The new CBA arrival magnifies these moves even more.

They stripped the team down to rebuild with flexibility. The books are clean in future years with a salary cap that could reach over $170M in 2-3 seasons once the TV deal with Disney, WBD and other new broadcast partners (Amazon, Apple, Comcast) materializes.

Poole and Kuzma are the only guys making money.

Kuzma’s salary will be useful salary in trades. He will not be in DC for year 3 of that deal. I’d be shocked.

Deni has team control over him next summer as a RFA. Corey has two more seasons of rookie deal.I do not think they’ll net you anything more than 2nd round picks.

The vets in the team are all on expirings. Pretty sure they’ll be used as fodder.

The team is going to lose more than 50 games. They will have a top 5 pick.

The only building block we might have right now is Bilal.

The rest of these young guys it’s put up or shut up. They need to convince Wes that they’re worthy of minutes.

[Rafael122]

I'm pretty confused on the offseason to this point. They salvaged the Beal trade with Poole and the young guys/picks. The rest of it, I just don't get it - keeping the vets on the roster while younger players around the league are traded, especially.

Maybe they're going to trade Kispert and Deni for first round picks down the road, and ride with vets this year to 30 wins? Keeps us in the lottery, opens up the opportunity for more trades mid-season, and helps in the future.

It’s easy to see what they’re doing. The new CBA arrival magnifies these moves even more.

They stripped the team down to rebuild with flexibility. The books are clean in future years with a salary cap that could reach over $170M in 2-3 seasons once the TV deal with Disney, WBD and other new broadcast partners (Amazon, Apple, Comcast) materializes.

Poole and Kuzma are the only guys making money.

Kuzma’s salary will be useful salary in trades. He will not be in DC for year 3 of that deal. I’d be shocked.

Deni has team control over him next summer as a RFA. Corey has two more seasons of rookie deal.I do not think they’ll net you anything more than 2nd round picks.

The vets in the team are all on expirings. Pretty sure they’ll be used as fodder.

The team is going to lose more than 50 games. They will have a top 5 pick.

The only building block we might have right now is Bilal.

The rest of these young guys it’s put up or shut up. They need to convince Wes that they’re worthy of minutes.

If you include Deni's cap hold next offseason, we're about $30 million under the projected cap. We're fine, the money has to be spent somehow to get to the floor anyway. 2024 free agent class is looking REALLY bad too.

[The Consiglieri]

Granted it's just a strong hunch, but I do think Kispert gets moved. I don't think he wants to stick around, I hope they feature him heavily, I think he could get more than a 2nd, he seems to be well liked, I don't mean he'll net some blue chip piece, but I definitely think teams see him as a real, tangible asset that won't cost a ton and will definitely add something, traded alone, or in a package, he'll give us more than a 2nd, especially if he gets moved between now and the deadline, I hope we don't keep him too long like we did literally EVERYONE else.

[Endless Loop]

Granted it's just a strong hunch, but I do think Kispert gets moved. I don't think he wants to stick around, I hope they feature him heavily, I think he could get more than a 2nd, he seems to be well liked, I don't mean he'll net some blue chip piece, but I definitely think teams see him as a real, tangible asset that won't cost a ton and will definitely add something, traded alone, or in a package, he'll give us more than a 2nd, especially if he gets moved between now and the deadline, I hope we don't keep him too long like we did literally EVERYONE else.

I just don't see the compulsion to get rid of everyone who was on this team prior to the end of last season. Kispert, for instance, has only been in the league for two years, and I agree, he is a real, tangible asset that doesn't cost a ton. So why get rid of him? Is it just to be able to say that the Wiz successfully jettisoned everything of any value whatsoever? How is a second round pick exercisable one or two or more years from now worth more than him? Just for the purity of a completely fresh start? Keeping a decent player halfway through his rookie deal is completely consistent with a fresh start.

Also, about him wanting to stick around. The most important thing that new management needs to do is to change completely the culture of the team. The Heat are the team everyone looks to for this, but a lot of the comments recently recommend an approach different from the Heat's. The Heat don't care about who has the biggest salary, or about who the finance people think is more marketable. It's all about performance on the court. I think that in his exit interview, Kispert pointed out that this was a big issue for the Wiz last year. Kispert would want to stick around for a team that rewarded performance and that held players accountable.

If the Wiz force feed minutes to not-yet-ready rookies, then they will be doing the most un-Heat thing possible. It's not an investment in the future to give minutes to a player who doesn't yet deserve them. The minutes need to be earned. If a rookie isn't getting a lot of game play, that doesn't mean that the team isn't helping him develop outside of games. It means the team is communicating that everybody is treated equally and that playing the right way is the only way to see court time.

[closg00]

Granted it's just a strong hunch, but I do think Kispert gets moved. I don't think he wants to stick around, I hope they feature him heavily, I think he could get more than a 2nd, he seems to be well liked, I don't mean he'll net some blue chip piece, but I definitely think teams see him as a real, tangible asset that won't cost a ton and will definitely add something, traded alone, or in a package, he'll give us more than a 2nd, especially if he gets moved between now and the deadline, I hope we don't keep him too long like we did literally EVERYONE else.

It is highly unlikely that a Kispert would return anything more than a 2nd rounder, he would have to look like the 2nd coming of JJ Reddick out there, he is too-much of a defensive liability and he can't create his own shot.

[DCZards]

Granted it's just a strong hunch, but I do think Kispert gets moved. I don't think he wants to stick around, I hope they feature him heavily, I think he could get more than a 2nd, he seems to be well liked, I don't mean he'll net some blue chip piece, but I definitely think teams see him as a real, tangible asset that won't cost a ton and will definitely add something, traded alone, or in a package, he'll give us more than a 2nd, especially if he gets moved between now and the deadline, I hope we don't keep him too long like we did literally EVERYONE else.

I just don't see the compulsion to get rid of everyone who was on this team prior to the end of last season. Kispert, for instance, has only been in the league for two years, and I agree, he is a real, tangible asset that doesn't cost a ton. So why get rid of him? Is it just to be able to say that the Wiz successfully jettisoned everything of any value whatsoever? How is a second round pick exercisable one or two or more years from now worth more than him? Just for the purity of a completely fresh start? Keeping a decent player halfway through his rookie deal is completely consistent with a fresh start.

Totally agree. Why would the Zards trade a young player, on a reasonable contract…who happens to have one of the most valuable skills in the modern NBA—a great 3pt shot?

[TGW]

Kispert should be part of the core. His skillset will always be a la mode.

Him and Coulibaly are the only "untradeables" in my opinion.

[penbeast0]

I don't see Kispert as a core piece. He's a bench specialist on a good team until he either develops league average defense or show that he is able to create his own shot efficiently. I'd be willing to move him to upgrade team talent. I don't advocate dumping him for a second; that's not improving the team's future unless you are clearing cap room for something major.

[payitforward]

I just don't see the compulsion to get rid of everyone who was on this team prior to the end of last season. Kispert, for instance, has only been in the league for two years, and I agree, he is a real, tangible asset that doesn't cost a ton. So why get rid of him? Is it just to be able to say that the Wiz successfully jettisoned everything of any value whatsoever? How is a second round pick exercisable one or two or more years from now worth more than him? Just for the purity of a completely fresh start? Keeping a decent player halfway through his rookie deal is completely consistent with a fresh start.

Totally agree. Why would the Zards trade a young player, on a reasonable contract…who happens to have one of the most valuable skills in the modern NBA—a great 3pt shot?

Kispert should be part of the core. His skillset will always be a la mode....

I agree. Kispert is a good player, & he's young.

Obviously, if you get an outlandish offer -- for him or anyone -- you'd trade him. But, that's true of anyone....

[Hibachi_0]

I would try to pick him, promise him some minutes and see if he can turn into a valuable asset. Worst case scenario, we don't make the playoffs

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