Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon

[gambitx777]

Speaking of Brogdon, some thought we might get a conditional 1st or a couple 2nds for him that would add to ultimate trade value. Doesn’t look like it at this point.

We have a few days till the deadline relax there is time.

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[badinage]

Brogdon ain’t bringing back a first. You can abandon THAT hope all ye who enter here.

A couple seconds, maybe. But I doubt it.

And even so a couple of seconds would be a significant comedown from: “We need to wait and see what kind of draft capital comes our way down the road …”

Meanwhile, in Portlandia:

Deni Avdija last night — 24 pts (on only 12 shots), 8 rebounds, 5 assists. Plus, uh, defense.

Final note: the Luka trade is exactly the sort of WTF-are-they-doing?!? move this franchise has pulled so many times, and has given me a weird triggering — a sort of proxy PTSD. Not that we’ve seen anything quite on the order of THIS dumbaxxery — the Luka dumbaxxery — but that’s only because this town has never had a player like that. So, I feel terrible for the fans of Dallas — to lose a 25 yr old who is an otherworldly offensive talent who, even at 260 pounds, was putting up 28-8-8 and last season took a decent (but not great) team to the Finals. You don’t trade young for old; you don’t trade Webber for Richmond and Thorpe; you don’t let one of the legends of the game go BEFORE he’s entered his prime. And yet — and here’s the weird thing about — seeing this all-time botch is a total misery-loves-company moment. I feel a little less sick about the stupid jettisoning of Deni Avdija. A little less.

[DusterBuster]

Brogdon ain’t bringing back a first. You can abandon THAT hope all ye who enter here.

A couple seconds, maybe. But I doubt it.

And even so a couple of seconds would be a significant comedown from: “We need to wait and see what kind of draft capital comes our way down the road …”

Meanwhile, in Portlandia:

Deni Avdija last night — 24 pts (on only 12 shots), 8 rebounds, 5 assists. Plus, uh, defense.

Final note: the Luka trade is exactly the sort of WTF-are-they-doing?!? move this franchise has pulled so many times, and has given me a weird triggering — a sort of proxy PTSD. Not that we’ve seen anything quite on the order of THIS dumbaxxery — the Luka dumbaxxery — but that’s only because this town has never had a player like that. So, I feel terrible for the fans of Dallas — to lose a 25 yr old who is an otherworldly offensive talent who, even at 260 pounds, was putting up 28-8-8 and last season took a decent (but not great) team to the Finals. You don’t trade young for old; you don’t trade Webber for Richmond and Thorpe; you don’t let one of the legends of the game go BEFORE he’s entered his prime. And yet — and here’s the weird thing about — seeing this all-time botch is a total misery-loves-company moment. I feel a little less sick about the stupid jettisoning of Deni Avdija. A little less.

Why you all traded Deni when he was just putting it together is crazy. I know that Bucks pick… might be good? Maybe… but man… a team as talent starved as Washington should have kept him and got rid of Kuz instead.

[J-Ves]

Brogdon ain’t bringing back a first. You can abandon THAT hope all ye who enter here.

A couple seconds, maybe. But I doubt it.

And even so a couple of seconds would be a significant comedown from: “We need to wait and see what kind of draft capital comes our way down the road …”

Meanwhile, in Portlandia:

Deni Avdija last night — 24 pts (on only 12 shots), 8 rebounds, 5 assists. Plus, uh, defense.

Final note: the Luka trade is exactly the sort of WTF-are-they-doing?!? move this franchise has pulled so many times, and has given me a weird triggering — a sort of proxy PTSD. Not that we’ve seen anything quite on the order of THIS dumbaxxery — the Luka dumbaxxery — but that’s only because this town has never had a player like that. So, I feel terrible for the fans of Dallas — to lose a 25 yr old who is an otherworldly offensive talent who, even at 260 pounds, was putting up 28-8-8 and last season took a decent (but not great) team to the Finals. You don’t trade young for old; you don’t trade Webber for Richmond and Thorpe; you don’t let one of the legends of the game go BEFORE he’s entered his prime. And yet — and here’s the weird thing about — seeing this all-time botch is a total misery-loves-company moment. I feel a little less sick about the stupid jettisoning of Deni Avdija. A little less.

Why you all traded Deni when he was just putting it together is crazy. I know that Bucks pick… might be good? Maybe… but man… a team as talent starved as Washington should have kept him and got rid of Kuz instead.

We don’t even have the Bucks pick we have the 2nd most favorable of the Bucks, Trailblazers, and Celtics pick. It figures to fall outside of the lottery

[spaceman_E]

We don’t even have the Bucks pick we have the 2nd most favorable of the Bucks, Trailblazers, and Celtics pick. It figures to fall outside of the lottery

And even so a couple of seconds would be a significant comedown from: “We need to wait and see what kind of draft capital comes our way down the road …”

please let's retire this for this FO, they don't deserve it even if they are a step up from Ernie (low bar alert)

[doclinkin]

Brogdon’s $22m expiring deal is worth more to the Wiz than a trade at current value now that we swapped Middleton for Kuzma.

Khris’ $34m player option helps the team fill the 90% rule, he and Poole would make up 50% of the cap by themselves. The rest of the team is expirings or on rookie contracts. Plus Kispert.

Kuz’ declining deal filled the same role in trade that Brogdon’s expiring would have in the trade market. Brogdon’s injuries made him lesser value. Nbd. He filled the cap and preserved the tank. His expiring means we can afford Middleton plus assets.

In this case a 2024 first round pick. (AJJ. Young. Raw. Long for the position. Athletic. Still growing. Player with international experience in the Aussie league).

Plus Middleton in the same placeholder role that Brogdon played: huge expiring contract, veteran mentor with winning experience, preserves the tank for one more year. Upgrades from Kuzma as your championship experience guy.

And you never know. If Brogdon plays well with Middleton the rest of the season he may rehab his value to where he’s worth something in sign and trade over the summer, at a lower price tag.

[doclinkin]

BTW. The pick swap is Portland and Milwaukee only. Celts have nothing to do with it.

Before the trade, the Bucks owed their 2028 first-round pick to the Portland Trail Blazers if it fell in the lottery (picks 1-14)— but only if the Blazers had not conveyed their 2027 first-round pick to the Chicago Bulls.

If the Blazers did convey their pick by then, Portland has the option to swap with the Bucks no matter where Milwaukee's pick lands in the draft order.

Washington will get the right to swap with Milwaukee after Portland gets its own chance to decide.

It matters in the scenario where Giannis + the aging Dame (+ tankmaster Kuz!) are unable to get it done and the Bucks decide to blow it up. Or Giannis wants a change of scenery and skips to another team.

Without Giannis the Bucks bottom out.

Meanwhile Portland rising still misses the playoffs in the West. Say they lose the play-in game. Or the HOFer Deni bruises his something and has to sit out.

With both teams in the lotto the Wiz would be playing with house money. Say they draft one or two franchise players over the next couple years. By ‘27-28 you’re looking at the 3rd year breakout for this year’s rookies.(Or Bilal if you assume an extra year for teenagers to grow into their game). No more tanking. Team is trying to win. If they fall short ok they get the 2nd best lotto of the 3. Or their own pick if it’s the best. If they mess around and win a play in game they might still catch a lotto pick by accident.

Just a few more %’s to sprinkle on future %’s. But in a game of odds it doesn’t hurt to give yourself more chances to get lucky.

[nate33]

Brogdon’s $22m expiring deal is worth more to the Wiz than a trade at current value now that we swapped Middleton for Kuzma.

Khris’ $34m player option helps the team fill the 90% rule, he and Poole would make up 50% of the cap by themselves. The rest of the team is expirings or on rookie contracts. Plus Kispert.

This is cope. In any Brogdon trade, we would have taken back a matching salary and easily stayed above 90% this year. And next year, we will have enough salary to hit 90% if Brodgon walks. Middleton, Poole, Kispert, Sarr and our lotto pick alone will total $102M. Bilal, Bey, Bub, Johnson and George are another $24M. We need to get to $143M so that just means we need to add $17M in our remaining 5 roster spots - one of which could be opting in on Holmes' $13.2M.

The fact is, we got nothing for Brogdon. Nothing! So that must be factored in the evaluation of the Deni trade.

[DCZards]

Brogdon’s $22m expiring deal is worth more to the Wiz than a trade at current value now that we swapped Middleton for Kuzma.

Khris’ $34m player option helps the team fill the 90% rule, he and Poole would make up 50% of the cap by themselves. The rest of the team is expirings or on rookie contracts. Plus Kispert.

This is cope. In any Brogdon trade, we would have taken back a matching salary and easily stayed above 90% this year. And next year, we will have enough salary to hit 90% if Brodgon walks. Middleton, Poole, Kispert, Sarr and our lotto pick alone will total $102M. Bilal, Bey, Bub, Johnson and George are another $24M. We need to get to $143M so that just means we need to add $17M in our remaining 5 roster spots - one of which could be opting in on Holmes' $13.2M.

The fact is, we got nothing for Brogdon. Nothing! So that must be factored in the evaluation of the Deni trade.

The trade deadline hasn’t passed.

[dckingsfan]

Brogdon’s $22m expiring deal is worth more to the Wiz than a trade at current value now that we swapped Middleton for Kuzma.

Khris’ $34m player option helps the team fill the 90% rule, he and Poole would make up 50% of the cap by themselves. The rest of the team is expirings or on rookie contracts. Plus Kispert.

This is cope. In any Brogdon trade, we would have taken back a matching salary and easily stayed above 90% this year. And next year, we will have enough salary to hit 90% if Brodgon walks. Middleton, Poole, Kispert, Sarr and our lotto pick alone will total $102M. Bilal, Bey, Bub, Johnson and George are another $24M. We need to get to $143M so that just means we need to add $17M in our remaining 5 roster spots - one of which could be opting in on Holmes' $13.2M.

The fact is, we got nothing for Brogdon. Nothing! So that must be factored in the evaluation of the Deni trade.

Still think we should have gotten more for Deni... Quietly efficient last night, 28 on 14 shots, 4 rebounds, 2 steals and 5 assists on 2 TOs.

[closg00]

Can we fly Deni back for Jewish appreciation night on the 26th?

[bsilver]

Can we fly Deni back for Jewish appreciation night on the 26th?

Considering he's the only Jewish player in the NBA, it would have been good marketing to keep him.
Sabonis's wife is Jewish and he's converting, so there will be two.

Danny Wolf may be the third next season.

[AFM]

I thought Kyrie was Jewish

[closg00]

Can we fly Deni back for Jewish appreciation night on the 26th?

*Correction*
Jewish Heritage Night on Feb 26

[DCZards]

Can we fly Deni back for Jewish appreciation night on the 26th?

Considering he's the only Jewish player in the NBA, it would have been good marketing to keep him.
Sabonis's wife is Jewish and he's converting, so there will be two.

Danny Wolf may be the third next season.

The Zards play Portland on Feb. 26. So Deni will be here.

[nate33]

Avdija ranks 7th in the league in FT rate (FTA's per FGA). He ranks 19th in the league in FTA's/min despite being a 4th option on his team.

[badinage]

Imagine when — if — he ever gets to a good — smart — team.

The pain of this rash and stupid trade will be even worse.

[AFM]

Unfortunately you don't get points for free throw attempts.

[dckingsfan]

Unfortunately you don't get points for free throw attempts.

well, 28 points on 14 shots

[tontoz]

Unfortunately you don't get points for free throw attempts.

He gets points on 78% of his attempts at the line this season.