nate33 wrote:Illmatic12 wrote:No , Drummond is probably going to opt out and his camp has been very clear about that from all I’ve seen. If he’s planning to opt-in then obviously this trade will not materialize.
He is only opting out if he can land a new long-term deal that is comparable to his old. Maybe he'll opt out of his $29M year to get a 4-year $100M contract or something, but he's not opting out for a new contract that pays him just $20M a year. Why would he? If he opts in, he can get paid and then enter free agency in 2021 when everyone has cap room to spend.
Fundamentally, we just have a difference in opinion on how effective Drummond really is. He gets rebounds to be sure, but he isn't that great of a rim protector, he doesn't spread the floor and he's not a good pick-and-roll player because he has stone hands. I'd much rather acquire a guy who's game is complementary to Wall and Beal - either a really good pick-and-roll diver, or a floor spreader. And preferably, someone who is a better defender as well. Clint Capela, for example, would be a much better option. He's a comparable rebounder, a better diver, and much cheaper. Sure, he doesn't post up as well as Drummond, but who needs a post up center anymore?
Your opinion disagrees with the metrics also.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/Went to BBref and pulled the past 5 years of Drummond's defensive metrics, this is where he finished in the entire league in:
Defensive Rating rank - 9, 3, 1, 1, 6
Defensive Win Shares rank - 4, 1, 1, 3, 4
Defensive BPM rank - 4, 9, 1, 7, N/A
Defensive metrics aren't perfect . But given that Drummond has consistently finished in the 98th-percentile in the league in multiple metrics, there's probably a large enough sample size to conclude he is at worst a very impactful defender (and at best, a dominant one).
The offensive end is not a priority for this team, we need to improve our defense and Drummond is clearly one of the most impactful defenders we have a chance to acquire. Capela is apparently available yes, but also has a much higher asking price.
payitforward wrote:Illmatic12 wrote:nate33 wrote:Drummond will probably opt in on his $29M contract. Bertans will probably cost $15M. So those two plus Wall and Beal together cost $113M. And their cost only goes up from there. You can pretty much only put vet minimum guys and rookie contracts around them.
That core is maybe 41-wins good at best. And you can't add any more good players around them. And guys like Troy Brown and Bonga will have to be let go when their rookie contracts expire.
No , Drummond is probably going to opt out and his camp has been very clear about that from all I’ve seen. If he’s planning to opt-in then obviously this trade will not materialize.
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Good grief! I give up....Why would Drummond -- or anyone -- opt out in order to take less $$?
Opting out makes him a UFA, right? The only conceivable reason he'd do that is if his agent has a better offer -- i.e. the same $$ or more for multiple years.
Why would Drummond's agent advise him to take $28M guaranteed instead of opting out for 4 years/~$80M guaranteed? Of course he's going to opt out.
