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Deni Avdija

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Post#1041 » by FAH1223 » Thu Jan 20, 2022 7:16 pm

80sballboy wrote:I assume this is mostly complete BS, but I would not be shocked about him complaining about playing time to Wes.
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Fake news. Deni doesn’t have that personality. He’s a pretty humble kid.
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Post#1042 » by payitforward » Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:41 pm

There's nothing of this kind on bleacher report as far as I can tell.
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Post#1043 » by 80sballboy » Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:27 pm

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Post#1044 » by Wizraeli » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:14 pm

I'm not very big on social media so I don't really understand who's been quoted here and how reliable that tweet, but in European basketball culture and how Deni grew up playing in the youth teams, the coach is literally GOD, I follow basketball for about 30 years and I don't remember even once a European player that publicly argued with a coach about playing time and I definitely don't remember someone getting anywhere close to a physical confrontation with a coach, so the chances that Deni, one of the nicest players around who's sometimes criticized of being too nice, really did something like that is absolute zero, especially when in every interview in the Israeli media when he's asked about such things as minutes his reply is that he's happy with his role in the team and that it's not his time to be the star but rather to help the stars, so I highly doubt that "report" is true.
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Post#1045 » by Jimmy Recard » Tue Jan 25, 2022 3:31 pm

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Post#1046 » by nate33 » Tue Feb 8, 2022 2:51 am

Over the last 5 games, the Wizards have been outscored by 67 points. Somehow, Deni Avdija has been +18 over that same stretch.

So in the 122 minutes that Avdija was off the court, the Wizards got outscored by 85 points, or 33.5 points per 48 minutes.
In the 118 minutes that Avdija was on the court, the Wizards outscored the opposition by 18 points, or 7.3 points per 48 minutes.
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Post#1047 » by CntOutSmrtCrazy » Tue Feb 8, 2022 3:17 am

nate33 wrote:Over the last 5 games, the Wizards have been outscored by 67 points. Somehow, Deni Avdija has been +18 over that same stretch.

So in the 122 minutes that Avdija was off the court, the Wizards got outscored by 85 points, or 33.5 points per 48 minutes.
In the 118 minutes that Avdija was on the court, the Wizards outscored the opposition by 18 points, or 7.3 points per 48 minutes.


Because he plays the right way. He could be more aggressive on offense, but given how they use him, the established veteran pecking order, and the short leashes for the young guys, one can't blame him too much. He really takes pride on the defensive end, you can see the frustration on his face when his teammates are constantly out of position or not trying at all. There was a moment were Bertans as usual screwed up on a fairly simple switch tonight, and he just shook his head.

I'm going to be irate if we trade him.
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Post#1048 » by trast66 » Tue Feb 8, 2022 3:20 am

nate33 wrote:Over the last 5 games, the Wizards have been outscored by 67 points. Somehow, Deni Avdija has been +18 over that same stretch.

So in the 122 minutes that Avdija was off the court, the Wizards got outscored by 85 points, or 33.5 points per 48 minutes.
In the 118 minutes that Avdija was on the court, the Wizards outscored the opposition by 18 points, or 7.3 points per 48 minutes.


I did not watch tonight’s game yet, but he did not make a field goal until 4 seconds left in game. I think he’s well thought of here because of his effort and plays “the right way”, but the man needs to take and make shots. Has been and always will be the book on him, only a plus player if he can shoot some.
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Post#1049 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Feb 8, 2022 3:21 am

nate33 wrote:Over the last 5 games, the Wizards have been outscored by 67 points. Somehow, Deni Avdija has been +18 over that same stretch.

So in the 122 minutes that Avdija was off the court, the Wizards got outscored by 85 points, or 33.5 points per 48 minutes.
In the 118 minutes that Avdija was on the court, the Wizards outscored the opposition by 18 points, or 7.3 points per 48 minutes.


:nod:

I had a chemistry professor who used to say "...it should be intuitively obvious to even the most casual observer".

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I do not know what the constraints are by the ownership or what the true agenda is so I'm just going to assume that most people see this regardless of the coaching moves
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Post#1050 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Feb 8, 2022 3:23 am

CntOutSmrtCrazy wrote:
nate33 wrote:Over the last 5 games, the Wizards have been outscored by 67 points. Somehow, Deni Avdija has been +18 over that same stretch.

So in the 122 minutes that Avdija was off the court, the Wizards got outscored by 85 points, or 33.5 points per 48 minutes.
In the 118 minutes that Avdija was on the court, the Wizards outscored the opposition by 18 points, or 7.3 points per 48 minutes.


Because he plays the right way. He could be more aggressive on offense, but given how they use him, the established veteran pecking order, and the short leashes for the young guys, one can't blame him too much. He really takes pride on the defensive end, you can see the frustration on his face when his teammates are constantly out of position or not trying at all. There was a moment were Bertans as usual screwed up on a fairly simple switch tonight, and he just shook his head.

I'm going to be irate if we trade him.


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nate33 wrote:Over the last 5 games, the Wizards have been outscored by 67 points. Somehow, Deni Avdija has been +18 over that same stretch.

So in the 122 minutes that Avdija was off the court, the Wizards got outscored by 85 points, or 33.5 points per 48 minutes.
In the 118 minutes that Avdija was on the court, the Wizards outscored the opposition by 18 points, or 7.3 points per 48 minutes.


Because he plays the right way. He could be more aggressive on offense, but given how they use him, the established veteran pecking order, and the short leashes for the young guys, one can't blame him too much. He really takes pride on the defensive end, you can see the frustration on his face when his teammates are constantly out of position or not trying at all. There was a moment were Bertans as usual screwed up on a fairly simple switch tonight, and he just shook his head.

I'm going to be irate if we trade him.


I'm getting so old and so used to this that I don't know if I can reach irate but it will be more of the same
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Post#1051 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Feb 8, 2022 3:24 am

The stupidest thing is I think they should be going for MylesTurner.

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Post#1052 » by nate33 » Tue Feb 8, 2022 3:29 am

trast66 wrote:only a plus player if he can shoot some.

With all due respect, that statement is self-evidently false. The whole point of my post is that Avdija is an incredibly "plus" player. He leads the team in on/off differential (he'll pass Harrell once tonight's stats post).

I agree that it will be nice when he figures out how to score more. But for now, I don't think his low usage rate is hurting much. It's not like he is turning down the shots he is supposed to take. When he has a look from 3, he shoots. When a defender closes out too hard, he attacks the rim. It's not like he is afraid to shoot and instead gives a teammate the ball with no time on the shot clock. What he doesn't do is force up shots in isolation. That's just smart basketball since he isn't much of an isolation scorer yet. Let Kuzma, Dinwiddie or Harrell take those kinds of shots. They're better at it than Deni.
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Post#1053 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Feb 8, 2022 3:53 am

Nah, let him swing and miss. It is egregious to turn a blind eye when our star guards who make a lot of money miss a lot of shots.
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Post#1054 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Feb 8, 2022 3:54 am

Kuz enjoys playing with Deni and Rui. I don't mind seeing that continue all season
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Post#1055 » by FAH1223 » Tue Feb 8, 2022 4:24 am

Miami Heat took away Deni’s right hand and he was absolutely useless offensively tonight.
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Post#1056 » by trast66 » Tue Feb 8, 2022 4:42 am

nate33 wrote:
trast66 wrote:only a plus player if he can shoot some.

With all due respect, that statement is self-evidently false. The whole point of my post is that Avdija is an incredibly "plus" player. He leads the team in on/off differential (he'll pass Harrell once tonight's stats post).

I agree that it will be nice when he figures out how to score more. But for now, I don't think his low usage rate is hurting much. It's not like he is turning down the shots he is supposed to take. When he has a look from 3, he shoots. When a defender closes out too hard, he attacks the rim. It's not like he is afraid to shoot and instead gives a teammate the ball with no time on the shot clock. What he doesn't do is force up shots in isolation. That's just smart basketball since he isn't much of an isolation scorer yet. Let Kuzma, Dinwiddie or Harrell take those kinds of shots. They're better at it than Deni.


His box plus minus is negative. He can’t go left. He can’t shoot at this point.

If he can’t shoot he will be another player we invested in who won’t see the floor in meaningful games (if we ever play in any), like Davis and Bryant who were very hyped at one point but clearly were always very limited players. Unfortunately feet of stone Hachimura looks to be a sunk cost as well.
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Post#1057 » by NatP4 » Tue Feb 8, 2022 5:59 am

In a couple of years, Avdija will be making 3s at a 36% clip, creating his own shot, and averaging 16 or 17 PPG.

He’s the best player on the wizards and he’s only going to get better.
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Post#1058 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Feb 8, 2022 12:00 pm

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80sballboy wrote:I assume this is mostly complete BS, but I would not be shocked about him complaining about playing time to Wes.
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Fake news. Deni doesn’t have that personality. He’s a pretty humble kid.


Thought so all along

HOWEVER, I have three sons around his age give or take 5 year. I Would Be PLANTING rumors tryna get my son traded up from this IF I thought this organization is inept or not really loyal to young players.

Otto Porter got coin here and had injury issues but he was REALLY GOOD with OUBRE and Wall, Beal but crap happened.

Wizards might not really value Deni enough... I dunno
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Post#1059 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Feb 8, 2022 12:03 pm

NatP4 wrote:In a couple of years, Avdija will be making 3s at a 36% clip, creating his own shot, and averaging 16 or 17 PPG.

He’s the best player on the wizards and he’s only going to get better.


Him, Kispert, Kuzma, GAFFORD, and maybe Holiday are who I would roll with.

Kuzma I know you cannot stand but I like his leadership.

Rui? I'm not sold but he reminds me A LITTLE of Rip Hamilton Wizards. The guy has go to scorer but this MIGHT NOT BE THE TIME OR THE TEAM. I would see if Portland has something in return.... MAYBE
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Post#1060 » by Dolevi » Tue Feb 8, 2022 12:37 pm

FAH1223 wrote:Miami Heat took away Deni’s right hand and he was absolutely useless offensively tonight.

Nah he even hasn't tried to attack the rim, was very passive and there was something mental maybe that caused it. Look, Wizards locker room isn't a happy place right now and it affects directly to the players.

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