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Re: The Washington Commanders Thread 

Post#1041 » by Rafael122 » Mon Oct 7, 2024 5:12 pm

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queridiculo wrote:The Commanders are 4-1, but they're not even close to the quality team pundits that monetize clicks and delusional fans would have you believe.

This is still very much a rebuilding team and all they're doing right now is peddling hope.

Win now moves is how this franchise ended up in a perpetual cycle of suck every time there was the slightest glimmer of a brighter future, but least the grown-ups are finally in charge and not some tiny fantasy football fantasy GM wanna be shyster.

Don't get me wrong, it's fun being on the winning side of 30+ point outings, but this team is not winning the division, and Jayden Daniels will not be in the conversation for MVP when this season is done.


Oh, absolutely not. This is a ten win team and they will win the division. You can put that in the bank. I'm more concerned about what happens next year - if you've got a superbowl quality qb, how do you chart a path to the superbowl? Following the Bengal's path of going all in on offense and criminally neglecting your defense is not the way. The Bengals are sliding backwards now. The commies have an offense that is good enough to win games. Now you address the defensive side, and if you luck into a good offensive player in the later rounds of the draft fine, but your top picks should be defensive players, your top fa acquisitions need to be defensive players.


Just continue drafting. Right now, we have 9 picks next season. We had 9 picks this past offseason, right now 6 of them (from what I can tell) are all contributing including potentially a franchise QB and a cornerstone left tackle. Its imperative that they continue to draft well because as players become more expensive, you're going to have to supplement that with players on cheap contracts.

As for the offseason, we have a ton of cap space, my guess is out of WR/CB/DE, 2 of those get addressed in free agency.
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Re: The Washington Commanders Thread 

Post#1042 » by TGW » Mon Oct 7, 2024 5:30 pm

queridiculo wrote:The Commanders are 4-1, but they're not even close to the quality team pundits that monetize clicks and delusional fans would have you believe.

This is still very much a rebuilding team and all they're doing right now is peddling hope.

Win now moves is how this franchise ended up in a perpetual cycle of suck every time there was the slightest glimmer of a brighter future, but least the grown-ups are finally in charge and not some tiny fantasy football fantasy GM wanna be shyster.

Don't get me wrong, it's fun being on the winning side of 30+ point outings, but this team is not winning the division, and Jayden Daniels will not be in the conversation for MVP when this season is done.


Agreed. They are one big hit/injury away from Mariotta being the QB, and we saw a glimpse of him yesterday and how much of a step backward it would be offensively. They aren't a Ravens or Niners or a team that can sustain an injury to an important player and still be competitive.

However, the NFL is a catch lightning league, and going all out can make sense if the dominoes are falling right. If they were to trade for a player, waiting until week 9 when they have a better idea of who they are as a team would make the most sense. I would really like for them to get a YAC guy. Other than Eckler, they don't have a player that can break it for a big gain after the catch.
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Re: The Washington Commanders Thread 

Post#1043 » by Kanyewest » Mon Oct 7, 2024 6:22 pm

queridiculo wrote:The Commanders are 4-1, but they're not even close to the quality team pundits that monetize clicks and delusional fans would have you believe.

This is still very much a rebuilding team and all they're doing right now is peddling hope.

Win now moves is how this franchise ended up in a perpetual cycle of suck every time there was the slightest glimmer of a brighter future, but least the grown-ups are finally in charge and not some tiny fantasy football fantasy GM wanna be shyster.

Don't get me wrong, it's fun being on the winning side of 30+ point outings, but this team is not winning the division, and Jayden Daniels will not be in the conversation for MVP when this season is done.


They are playing like a quality team like now that deserves the clicks. They have the number 1 offense in the league and the best rushing attack.

I agree though that you can't always trade for a big time player. Especially this early in the season especially based on a sample size of 5 games. As of right now they haven't beaten a team over .500. Although if Washington had lost to the Giants and Cardinals, they would be 3-2 who both beat teams including the Seahawks and 49ers respectively.

Right now Vegas has Washington as the 2nd most team likely to win the division although they are closing the odds - they were +360 last week and are now only +200.


TGW wrote:Agreed. They are one big hit/injury away from Mariotta being the QB, and we saw a glimpse of him yesterday and how much of a step backward it would be offensively. They aren't a Ravens or Niners or a team that can sustain an injury to an important player and still be competitive.

However, the NFL is a catch lightning league, and going all out can make sense if the dominoes are falling right. If they were to trade for a player, waiting until week 9 when they have a better idea of who they are as a team would make the most sense. I would really like for them to get a YAC guy. Other than Eckler, they don't have a player that can break it for a big gain after the catch.


Washington is going to have to get lucky on the injury front like many teams not only at the quarterback but other positions. The Chiefs have Carson Wentz, the Ravens have Josh Johnson, the Bills have Mitchell Trubisky.

But yeah, I agree that waiting to see more games instead of making a big move for Adams seems like the wise thing to do especially given that Washington appears to be drafting well under the new regime.
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Re: The Washington Commanders Thread 

Post#1044 » by tontoz » Mon Oct 7, 2024 7:02 pm

Vegas odds currently have JD as 5th to win MVP behind Mahomes/Lamar/Josh/ CJ.
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Post#1045 » by W. Unseld » Mon Oct 7, 2024 8:20 pm

I'm the biggest cynic there is for this team and I don't get a great vibe about playing the Ravens but Daniels has been transformational, if he's healthy they got a shot. By "transformational" I mean he's made the o-line look better than they are and has the defense fired up to play. But yeah, if he gets injured they're probably instantly the worst team in the league.

Back up QB is a big deal, I think McSorely looked better than Mariota.
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Post#1046 » by Tyrone Messby » Mon Oct 7, 2024 8:25 pm

Jayden is a league breaker. He will be everything the media and Ravens fans try to make you believe Lamar is. Jayden is doing this with basically Terry and a bunch of average players on offense. B Rob is getting that Alfred Morris treatment right now. Jayden was the generational talent in this draft, not Caleb. Jayden stays healthy and the league is in big, big trouble. I think they end with 11 wins which is wild for a “rebuilding” team. And please don’t trade for Adams. Maybe add some talent to defense at the deadline but even the defense seems to be coming around. With that being said, Watson isn’t a starter anymore. Geez he’s terrible.
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Post#1047 » by Dark Faze » Mon Oct 7, 2024 8:32 pm

Most teams are dead in the water if the primary QB goes out.

Two guys I'd be staring at hard are Allen and Payne. The defense may or may not be turning the corner, but I've got to think Adam Peters could find upgrades at the salary both those guys are making. They are our second and third highest paid players. Payne has .5 sacks through 5 games lol.

I don't have access to pressure numbers, so maybe they are doing better than the numbers look at first glance.
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Post#1048 » by Zonkerbl » Mon Oct 7, 2024 8:42 pm

I mean, worrying about an injury to your superbowl quality qb is a good problem to have.
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Post#1049 » by Kanyewest » Mon Oct 7, 2024 11:12 pm

Dark Faze wrote:Most teams are dead in the water if the primary QB goes out.

Two guys I'd be staring at hard are Allen and Payne. The defense may or may not be turning the corner, but I've got to think Adam Peters could find upgrades at the salary both those guys are making. They are our second and third highest paid players. Payne has .5 sacks through 5 games lol.

I don't have access to pressure numbers, so maybe they are doing better than the numbers look at first glance.


Payne may have had his best game of the season according to PFF with a 76.8 grade (3rd best defender, 4th highest graded commander). He did look sluggish to start the season and the Browns offense could make the case for the worst in the league. Still nice to see Payne having a better game.

They also have Jayden Daniels as a top 3 contender for MVP as of right now and one of them threw in Dan Quin for Coach of the year although the other guys says it is Kevin O'Connell.

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Re: The Washington Commanders Thread 

Post#1051 » by AFM » Tue Oct 8, 2024 6:41 pm

power rankings have us as the 6th best team in the league (ravens are 5th)... am I dreaming?
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Post#1052 » by BearlyBallin » Tue Oct 8, 2024 7:03 pm

AFM wrote:power rankings have us as the 6th best team in the league (ravens are 5th)... am I dreaming?


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Post#1057 » by BearlyBallin » Sun Oct 13, 2024 5:02 pm

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Post#1058 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun Oct 13, 2024 7:14 pm

I'm watching, and Baltimore just drove 90+ yards the second time to go ahead 27-13.

Looks like the odds makers knew right.

The offensive line hasn't opened running lanes. The defense isn't pressuring Lamar Jackson, and they have receivers running free.

This one hopefully doesn't kill the enthusiasm of this season.

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Post#1059 » by Dark Faze » Sun Oct 13, 2024 8:26 pm

Elite defense begins with stopping the run, and as I mentioned earlier...two very highly paid defensive lineman in Payne/Allen. Hard to ignore the elephant in the room there.
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Post#1060 » by closg00 » Sun Oct 13, 2024 9:33 pm

Close game, Washington still cannot stop anyone so in the end they will be just average until they improve on D, but at-least there is hope finally.

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