Political Roundtable Part XVII

[popper]

I would like to thank all on the good wishes for my recovery which is going very well no pain setting up therapy but it shows how lucky I am to live in Canada. Popper thanks for your goodwill but may I ask you is there a "American Insurance Plan" that would give me this type of coverage we a obvious preexisting conditions. If so what would the yearly cost be? Yes the Canadian system isn't instantaneous I did have to spend a few days waiting for transport to the hospital for Surgery. Partly because I was in a very stable condition and partly it was close to the weekend. But all the preparatory work was done and the surgery handled competently and professionally. In ICU I was in a 4 bed recovery pod with 4 Registered Nurses on duty. When my pulse went from 90 to 300 in seconds I was on my bed and had electroshock in a matter of 10 seconds the incident was over and I returned to stable condition. I was consulted by doctors and recommended that I have the pacemaker installed. They tried to fit me in the next day but the schedule was too full but was on the table 1st the next morning. Through my stay at the hospital I very little pain and the most painkiller I took were a few Tylenol. I was offered some narcotics if pain was out of my tolerance level but was discouraged. The nursing staff works 4 twelve hour shifts then get 5 days off. The technical staff was in and out of the pod effectively and efficiently. The staff doctors and interns gave me updates twice a day since this is also a teaching hospital.
It would be interesting to know what a US plan would cost for my hospital stay and recovery with zero costs to me personally?
I am in a position I could pay but no one knew about my social economic situation and I was treated as a ordinary patient. My wife is letting me get on the internet for short periods since she had taken away my phone and computer while in hospital.

You’ve got a great attitude for dealing with what lies ahead of you brother. You truly inspire me with your positive approach. I’ve seen my friends go through the same sort of challenge and it scares the sh*t out of them (as one would expect). Recovery takes more time and patience than most realize. A positive attitude is everything. You passed that test with flying colors my friend. Glad to see you’re mentally back in the game and on the political thread. The Canadian system has a lot to admire. God bless.

[cammac]

I would like to thank all on the good wishes for my recovery which is going very well no pain setting up therapy but it shows how lucky I am to live in Canada. Popper thanks for your goodwill but may I ask you is there a "American Insurance Plan" that would give me this type of coverage we a obvious preexisting conditions. If so what would the yearly cost be? Yes the Canadian system isn't instantaneous I did have to spend a few days waiting for transport to the hospital for Surgery. Partly because I was in a very stable condition and partly it was close to the weekend. But all the preparatory work was done and the surgery handled competently and professionally. In ICU I was in a 4 bed recovery pod with 4 Registered Nurses on duty. When my pulse went from 90 to 300 in seconds I was on my bed and had electroshock in a matter of 10 seconds the incident was over and I returned to stable condition. I was consulted by doctors and recommended that I have the pacemaker installed. They tried to fit me in the next day but the schedule was too full but was on the table 1st the next morning. Through my stay at the hospital I very little pain and the most painkiller I took were a few Tylenol. I was offered some narcotics if pain was out of my tolerance level but was discouraged. The nursing staff works 4 twelve hour shifts then get 5 days off. The technical staff was in and out of the pod effectively and efficiently. The staff doctors and interns gave me updates twice a day since this is also a teaching hospital.
It would be interesting to know what a US plan would cost for my hospital stay and recovery with zero costs to me personally?
I am in a position I could pay but no one knew about my social economic situation and I was treated as a ordinary patient. My wife is letting me get on the internet for short periods since she had taken away my phone and computer while in hospital.

You’ve got a great attitude for dealing with what lies ahead of you brother. You truly inspire me with your positive approach. I’ve seen my friends go through the same sort of challenge and it scares the sh*t out of them (as one would expect). Recovery takes more time and patience than most realize. A positive attitude is everything. You passed that test with flying colors my friend. Glad to see you’re mentally back in the game and on the political thread. The Canadian system has a lot to admire. God bless.

Thanks I was blessed with a great medical team and there concern of pushing me to exert myself and to help with my cardiologist setting up the proper therapy. I must admit I feel great with absolutely no pain. The biggest problem is that I'm not allowed to drive but we have hired a driver. My wife can drive but is unsure still with Canada especially the winter. Our kids will obviously help out but they are busy in our businesses. But must say nice to be home and active again. I look like 10 rounds with Mike Tyson and look like crap but feel good.

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We'll see the final tally soon.

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[stilldropin20]

Pretty convincing to me

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[cammac]

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Really quite laughable.
I guess you have never taken a flight and what is required to get through security to even board a flight.
So much BS. it is obviously directed at the uninformed and stupid!!!!!
Am I saying that there isn't a underground railway that is a NO but there isn't reliable information that suggests that exists.
But you must agree but likely you don't is that the USA is defying international conventions in not allowing refugees a hearing when they present themselves at the southern border. I have yet to see you quote mainstream media and you are basing to theory on the "Nune's Memo" which is a man who is a sycophant of the President.

[closg00]

Someone probably posted this already, but the Russian spy apparatus is teaming-up with Republicans to push the "release the memo" narrative. You have to give Nunes credit for genius of creating a document that can never be released.
http://thehill.com/policy/technology/369797-russian-twitter-accounts-are-pushing-house-intelligence-to-release-shocking

Russian Twitter accounts pushing for release of 'shocking' surveillance memo

[FAH1223]

“When was the last time there was a government shutdown when the same party controlled all three elected branches of the federal government, you ask? Why, yes, it was under Jimmy Carter. This is not a sign of a hegemonic party firmly in control of things.

And why aren't the Republicans using reconciliation, where they only need 51 votes rather than 60 to pass budget-related bills? Because, basically, you get to use it only once a year. And they used their one for 2017 on repealing Obamacare, which they weren't able to do, and then they used their one for 2018 on passing the tax cut, which they were able to do.

Again, not a sign of a hegemonic party firmly in control.“
https://www.facebook.com/corey.robin1/posts/1622376391161409

[nate33]

“When was the last time there was a government shutdown when the same party controlled all three elected branches of the federal government, you ask? Why, yes, it was under Jimmy Carter. This is not a sign of a hegemonic party firmly in control of things.

And why aren't the Republicans using reconciliation, where they only need 51 votes rather than 60 to pass budget-related bills? Because, basically, you get to use it only once a year. And they used their one for 2017 on repealing Obamacare, which they weren't able to do, and then they used their one for 2018 on passing the tax cut, which they were able to do.

Again, not a sign of a hegemonic party firmly in control.“
https://www.facebook.com/corey.robin1/posts/1622376391161409

It'll be interesting.

Personally, I think forcing Democrats to shut down the government for the sake of a bunch of non-Americans is good politics from the Republican perspective. But then, I could be wrong. Gauging the opinion of the electorate is always tricky.

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[cammac]

“When was the last time there was a government shutdown when the same party controlled all three elected branches of the federal government, you ask? Why, yes, it was under Jimmy Carter. This is not a sign of a hegemonic party firmly in control of things.

And why aren't the Republicans using reconciliation, where they only need 51 votes rather than 60 to pass budget-related bills? Because, basically, you get to use it only once a year. And they used their one for 2017 on repealing Obamacare, which they weren't able to do, and then they used their one for 2018 on passing the tax cut, which they were able to do.

Again, not a sign of a hegemonic party firmly in control.“
https://www.facebook.com/corey.robin1/posts/1622376391161409

It'll be interesting.

Personally, I think forcing Democrats to shut down the government for the sake of a bunch of non-Americans is good politics from the Republican perspective. But then, I could be wrong. Gauging the opinion of the electorate is always tricky.

I hardly think 10 million American Children and 800,000 Dreamers are considered Non American.Blaming the Democrats will get the Republican Party no where except illuminate it's base like you.

[verbal8]

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/01/stormy-daniels-once-claimed-she-spanked-donald-trump-with-a-forbes-magazine/

“Yep,” the other consultant replied. “She says one time he made her sit with him for three hours watching ‘shark week.’ Another time he had her spank him with a Forbes magazine.”

Watching Shark Week is the only evidence I have seen of Trump having any good taste.

Although maybe AFM can tell us what it is best to watch with Porn Stars.

[verbal8]

The involvement of most Trump children in the government is far more a Bananna Republic than anything they could criticize.

Pretty convincing to me

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[verbal8]

It could be factual or written by Nunes. I don't believe it could be both.

Wait wait wait...let me get this straight. Nunes wrote the memo???



LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

he is sitting chair of the house intel community that is investigating "collusiongate"!!! its a factual based memo with a step by step of what occurred summer 2016. The rest of the house is appalled. Graham an dGrassley referred many people to the FBI/DOJ last week for criminal prosecution.

You guys really think this is a big game??

well the trump admin is getting its sea legs and about to show the american exactly what kind of game was played in 2016. Gloves off!!!

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[dckingsfan]

My wife is letting me get on the internet for short periods since she had taken away my phone and computer while in hospital.

FREE CAMMAC!!!!

[cammac]

Immigration Policy is a very touchy subject in every country including Canada where a certain segment of the population older 50 plus and poorly educated mostly white are against. But the realities are that if Canada depended on birthrate we would have a declining population. In 2018 Canada will bring in about 300,000 + immigrants and refugees so slightly less than 1% of our population.The USA is slightly different in that the birthrate basically will keep the population neutral but has a higher incidence of illegal immigration.

Canada also has a well oiled guest worker program that targets areas where most Canadians are not prepared to work such as agriculture and in home care. Guest workers get the same legal protections as Canadians and are required to get at least minimum wages in the jurisdictions in which they work. Obviously some abuses occur but overall they are minimal and a guest worker should have no fear in reporting a employer.

Currently the majority of Canadian immigrants are coming to Canada are 66% economic immigrants ( highly educated or people, bringing money into the Canadian economy), 22% Family Class which are sponsored by the family and supported by the family and the balance is refugees. A immigrant can apply for citizenship after 3 years in Canada as a permanent resident. Where immigration comes from in 2012 last year of statistics China, Philippines, India, Pakistan, USA, France, UK, Korea, Iran, UAE were the top ten. That will obviously change on a yearly basis.

The congress must make a decision that is based on economic realities not racial bias 700,000 Dreamers are left in cold basically most have grown up as Americans been educated in American schools and are productive in the American economy. The vast majority of illegal immigrants are doing jobs that few Americans would consider suitable doing agricultural, housekeeping, landscaping, manual labor and many have children that are American citizens. Isn't it better to give a path to citizenship and have people come out of the shadows and pay taxes and begin to contribute meaningfully to the American mosaic.

I'm not telling Americans what to do on immigration and you can build and pay for the wall on the southern border. But almost any rational persons see's the need to set new policies but the problems from the past need to be fixed and a new page turned. This is not the 50's when a policy like the Eisenhower "Project Wetback" can succeed.

The USA trains a huge amount of foreign students every year and many are getting advanced degrees and they forced to return to there country after graduation. I know my wife's cousins son got his MBA and his now wife had a MS couldn't stay in USA but moved to Canada and have started a successful business.
To ever thing that the USA can remain a white nation is wishful thinking as the Trump wish of a flood of Norwegians coming to the USA.

Yes the USA is a sovereign country that can set immigration policies as they wish but hoping for a flood of European immigrates is wishful thinking. Remember early Italian immigrants were considered non white.

[dckingsfan]

Okay, not how to handle this... not like they didn't have enough time to prepare.

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[dckingsfan]

This is how it is done... much better on the blame game!

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